About the theory trump will refuse to leave when he loses the election

[Craig234]

I think what people are responding to who think that are responding to trump's character - his character being one that would do that, and they're right about his character.

But I don't think trump would do it.

trump is an utterly corrupt, selfish, narcissist. He's out for his own benefit. And there is no way that refusing to give up power ends any way other than disaster for him, and he knows that. Even if he had millions of Americans supporting his doing so and calling for civil war, it would not end well for him. For one example alone, the military is a hell of a lot more loyal to the country than to trump.

A second issue is that this 'hold onto power' thing is usually about corrupt people who want power for its own sake, and who get their wealth from that power, stealing the wealth of the country.

trump is neither some ideologue who wants political power particularly - he doesn't give a crap about anything except his own benefits - and being in office isn't a source of wealth for him (much). He's not pocketing the US treasury. He'd have a lot more freedom out of office. He never expected to win in the first place. He doesn't have the normal motives for wanting to cling to power, other than to remain unprosecutable.

And even that prosecution motive, which is very real, is a motive for him to try to win, but not to try to seize power if he loses, because the price to him would be even worse than the prosecutions.

In short, the issue is simply what benefits him.

And that is not trying to seize power. So I don't think it will happen. That it's a non-issue, even though the people who suspect it - including his biographer, as I recall - are right about his character.

 

[SkyFox76]

I think what people are responding to who think that are responding to trump's character - his character being one that would do that, and they're right about his character.

But I don't think trump would do it.

trump is an utterly corrupt, selfish, narcissist. He's out for his own benefit. And there is no way that refusing to give up power ends any way other than disaster for him, and he knows that. Even if he had millions of Americans supporting his doing so and calling for civil war, it would not end well for him. For one example alone, the military is a hell of a lot more loyal to the country than to trump.

A second issue is that this 'hold onto power' thing is usually about corrupt people who want power for its own sake, and who get their wealth from that power, stealing the wealth of the country.

trump is neither some ideologue who wants political power particularly - he doesn't give a crap about anything except his own benefits - and being in office isn't a source of wealth for him (much). He's not pocketing the US treasury. He'd have a lot more freedom out of office. He never expected to win in the first place. He doesn't have the normal motives for wanting to cling to power, other than to remain unprosecutable.

And even that prosecution motive, which is very real, is a motive for him to try to win, but not to try to seize power if he loses, because the price to him would be even worse than the prosecutions.

In short, the issue is simply what benefits him.

And that is not trying to seize power. So I don't think it will happen. That it's a non-issue, even though the people who suspect it - including his biographer, as I recall - are right about his character.

If he loses this election I can certainly see him kicking and screaming all the way to his grave. However he'll have to do that from TT.

 

[Craig234]

If he loses this election I can certainly see him kicking and screaming all the way to his grave. However he'll have to do that from TT.

Oh, there's little doubt he'll lie a lot about how he lost unfairly, but I don't think he'll actually try to seize power.

 

[washunut]

Oh, there's little doubt he'll lie a lot about how he lost unfairly, but I don't think he'll actually try to seize power.

You mean he will pull a Hillary. Will his party work to resist the incoming administration?

 

[Outlook]

I think what people are responding to who think that are responding to trump's character - his character being one that would do that, and they're right about his character.

But I don't think trump would do it.

trump is an utterly corrupt, selfish, narcissist. He's out for his own benefit. And there is no way that refusing to give up power ends any way other than disaster for him, and he knows that. Even if he had millions of Americans supporting his doing so and calling for civil war, it would not end well for him. For one example alone, the military is a hell of a lot more loyal to the country than to trump.

A second issue is that this 'hold onto power' thing is usually about corrupt people who want power for its own sake, and who get their wealth from that power, stealing the wealth of the country.

trump is neither some ideologue who wants political power particularly - he doesn't give a crap about anything except his own benefits - and being in office isn't a source of wealth for him (much). He's not pocketing the US treasury. He'd have a lot more freedom out of office. He never expected to win in the first place. He doesn't have the normal motives for wanting to cling to power, other than to remain unprosecutable.

And even that prosecution motive, which is very real, is a motive for him to try to win, but not to try to seize power if he loses, because the price to him would be even worse than the prosecutions.

In short, the issue is simply what benefits him.

And that is not trying to seize power. So I don't think it will happen. That it's a non-issue, even though the people who suspect it - including his biographer, as I recall - are right about his character.

What a dumb post and to think there are dumb people that believe Trump won't relinquish the presidency if he losses.

 

[Mycroft]

"About the theory trump will refuse to leave when he loses the election"

Theory? No. It's not a theory. It's baseless, biased speculation.

 

[bongsaway]

Trump knows he's in trouble once he is out of office but seize power? That's almost laughable. Trump is despised and it's only those around him who see an opportunity to make easy money who 'support' him to his face. I can't imagine his base being stupid enough to go against the national guard in a civil war to keep him in office. I would however like to see him forcefully removed if he loses and refuses to leave.

 

[bearpoker]

You mean he will pull a Hillary. Will his party work to resist the incoming administration?

Of course they will. They did for 8 years under Obama. The only way to prevent it is to defeat McConnell, take back the Senate and keep the house as well as winning the presidency. Otherwise we'll have another 4 to 8 years of nonsense.

 

[Craig234]

You mean he will pull a Hillary. Will his party work to resist the incoming administration?

No, Hillary has said nothing false. Of COURSE Republicans will 'resist', just as they obstructed Obama completely - refusing to pass any bills pretty much, to let him appoint judges (stealing a Supreme Court seat), filibustering everything and much more.

 

[Exquisitor]

Of course they will. They did for 8 years under Obama. The only way to prevent it is to defeat McConnell, take back the Senate and keep the house as well as winning the presidency. Otherwise we'll have another 4 to 8 years of nonsense.

Who's going to trust the Democrats with both Houses of Congress and the President?

 

[haymarket]

Until Trump is facing prison - I really don't think we have seen the depths he is capable of to try and save his own ass above all else.

 

[Exquisitor]

Of course they will. They did for 8 years under Obama. The only way to prevent it is to defeat McConnell, take back the Senate and keep the house as well as winning the presidency. Otherwise we'll have another 4 to 8 years of nonsense.

yet I agree, this is what we must do.

How are we going to trust the Democrats?

Putin doesn't want us to trust the Democrats and this is the only reason we don't trust them.

 

[snakestretcher]

I think what people are responding to who think that are responding to trump's character - his character being one that would do that, and they're right about his character.

But I don't think trump would do it.

trump is an utterly corrupt, selfish, narcissist. He's out for his own benefit. And there is no way that refusing to give up power ends any way other than disaster for him, and he knows that. Even if he had millions of Americans supporting his doing so and calling for civil war, it would not end well for him. For one example alone, the military is a hell of a lot more loyal to the country than to trump.

A second issue is that this 'hold onto power' thing is usually about corrupt people who want power for its own sake, and who get their wealth from that power, stealing the wealth of the country.

trump is neither some ideologue who wants political power particularly - he doesn't give a crap about anything except his own benefits - and being in office isn't a source of wealth for him (much). He's not pocketing the US treasury. He'd have a lot more freedom out of office. He never expected to win in the first place. He doesn't have the normal motives for wanting to cling to power, other than to remain unprosecutable.

And even that prosecution motive, which is very real, is a motive for him to try to win, but not to try to seize power if he loses, because the price to him would be even worse than the prosecutions.

In short, the issue is simply what benefits him.

And that is not trying to seize power. So I don't think it will happen. That it's a non-issue, even though the people who suspect it - including his biographer, as I recall - are right about his character.

Yes, Trump has already mused about being 'president for life', so, like Maduro, if he could he would resist all efforts to pack his fat arse off to his tacky beach resort.

 

[snakestretcher]

Trump knows he's in trouble once he is out of office but seize power? That's almost laughable. Trump is despised and it's only those around him who see an opportunity to make easy money who 'support' him to his face. I can't imagine his base being stupid enough to go against the national guard in a civil war to keep him in office. I would however like to see him forcefully removed if he loses and refuses to leave.

You wouldn't tease a poor old man like me about the blissful anticipation of watching Trump being manhandled out of the White House?

 

[Craig234]

Yes, Trump has already mused about being 'president for life', so, like Maduro, if he could he would resist all efforts to pack his fat arse off to his tacky beach resort.

Oh, if he could he would - but I think that's simply him fantasizing, trying to be outrageous to distract, trying to excite his base, trolling, attacking democracy, etc. Not that he'll actually try.

 

[snakestretcher]

Oh, if he could he would - but I think that's simply him fantasizing, trying to be outrageous to distract, trying to excite his base, trolling, attacking democracy, etc. Not that he'll actually try.

I know, but wouldn't it be fun to watch? That would call for a very decent, and very large Scotch, a comfortable armchair and plenty of unbridled gloating.

 

[Craig234]

I know, but wouldn't it be fun to watch? That would call for a very decent, and very large Scotch, a comfortable armchair and plenty of unbridled gloating.

We could make a lot of money filming an enactment of that and selling it.

 

[bearpoker]

Who's going to trust the Democrats with both Houses of Congress and the President?

By the time Trump is through, enough that even Republican cheating can't steal another election.

 

[bearpoker]

Oh, if he could he would - but I think that's simply him fantasizing, trying to be outrageous to distract, trying to excite his base, trolling, attacking democracy, etc. Not that he'll actually try.

I don't think he'll resist leaving if he loses the election, but before he does, he'll try everything he can to nullify it. He'll claim it was rigged, have it investigated and try to have it overturned. He won't go without a fight, but if he loses, he will go.

 

[KevinKohler]

The same was said about GW and Obama.

Stop saying it, its not gonna happen, because it can't.

 

[3leftsdoo]

Until Trump is facing prison - I really don't think we have seen the depths he is capable of to try and save his own ass above all else.

Trump will ask himself "What would Hitler do?"

Then he'll remember that he's LITERALLY Hitler.

The point is, McResist!!!

:donkeyfla

 

[apdst]

I think what people are responding to who think that are responding to trump's character - his character being one that would do that, and they're right about his character.

But I don't think trump would do it.

trump is an utterly corrupt, selfish, narcissist. He's out for his own benefit. And there is no way that refusing to give up power ends any way other than disaster for him, and he knows that. Even if he had millions of Americans supporting his doing so and calling for civil war, it would not end well for him. For one example alone, the military is a hell of a lot more loyal to the country than to trump.

A second issue is that this 'hold onto power' thing is usually about corrupt people who want power for its own sake, and who get their wealth from that power, stealing the wealth of the country.

trump is neither some ideologue who wants political power particularly - he doesn't give a crap about anything except his own benefits - and being in office isn't a source of wealth for him (much). He's not pocketing the US treasury. He'd have a lot more freedom out of office. He never expected to win in the first place. He doesn't have the normal motives for wanting to cling to power, other than to remain unprosecutable.

And even that prosecution motive, which is very real, is a motive for him to try to win, but not to try to seize power if he loses, because the price to him would be even worse than the prosecutions.

In short, the issue is simply what benefits him.

And that is not trying to seize power. So I don't think it will happen. That it's a non-issue, even though the people who suspect it - including his biographer, as I recall - are right about his character.

It's just more fear mongering.

 

[Craig234]

The same was said about GW and Obama.

Stop saying it, its not gonna happen, because it can't.

Who are you talking to?

Are you another right-winger who can't read that I said I think it will not happen?

 

[KevinKohler]

Who are you talking to?

Are you another right-winger who can't read that I said I think it will not happen?

If I were saying it to you, I would have quoted you. Its how I roll.

 

[Helix]

About the theory trump will refuse to leave when he loses the election

i hope that he doesn't do this.