'A Year Ago I Was a Hero. Now I'm Treated Like Scum.'

[SMTA]

Because they are questions a third grader answers and I become amused when adult leftists are stumped.

Bullshit.
Anyone able to read can easily get answers in the internet when clueless.
Stop faking superior intellect.
Google makes fools look smart.
It works for you.

 

[SMTA]

Who is we’re?

Learn to read English.

 

[jaeger19]

Bullshit.
Anyone able to read can easily get answers in the internet when clueless.
Stop faking superior intellect.
Google makes fools look smart.
It works for you.

Yeh..he is not looking smart.

 

[SMTA]

So you admit your understanding is at a third grade level...
Well that's progress.

Way too kind.

 

[jaeger19]

Way too kind.

Well it is the Christmas holiday season.

 

[SMTA]

Well it is the Christmas holiday season.

You’re way too generous.
I don’t like to give fools false hope.

 

[redbeer]

The recklessness is in her refusing vaccination, thus endangering already vulnerable patients. How hard is that to understand?

How hard is it to understand or comprehend she wants to have children in the near future and for their sake, their futures sake will not take the vaccine......it that over your head, or what?

 

[jaeger19]

How hard is it to understand or comprehend she wants to have children in the near future and for their sake, their futures sake will not take the vaccine......it that over your head, or what?

Hmmm.
Can you produce any science that shows that getting vaccinated will decrease her chances of having children or diminish their futures?

 

[KevinKohler]

Meh.

A year ago, retail workers, grocery workers, etc, were all heroes, and now, we're just the crap you folks have to scrape off the bottom of your shoes on your way to arguing about mask wearing, or trying to buy 9 cases of toilette paper. And it doesn't matter if we're vaccinated or not, we're treated that way.

So take a ticket, grab your helmet, and get in line. People suck, and life goes on. Get over it.

 

[redbeer]

Hmmm.
Can you produce any science that shows that getting vaccinated will decrease her chances of having children or diminish their futures?

I believe the point is that nobody knows for a fact, scientifically the risk or benefit for expectant mothers, for it's too soon and for a woman who desires healthy babies, it's healthy and wise, imo. She is young and at a minimal risk of serious effects from Covid, so why take the risk which could affect her future children.

 

[Paradoxical]

Bullshit.
Anyone able to read can easily get answers in the internet when clueless.
Stop faking superior intellect.
Google makes fools look smart.
It works for you.

How’s that working for you?

 

[Paradoxical]

Learn to read English.

We? Have you checked with those you imagine agree with you?

 

[Paradoxical]

What hospital wants to fire a significant portion of their doctors?
If the vaccines are demonstrably unsafe..
Why would doctors risk their licenses and livelihood by killing off their patients.?
Why would a hospital?

Doctors dint give a whit. They are told the vaccine is safe, they get paid to give a shot and that’s that.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

How hard is it to understand or comprehend she wants to have children in the near future and for their sake, their futures sake will not take the vaccine......it that over your head, or what?

The vaccines don’t impact anyone’s ability to get pregnant. Wtf are you talking about?

 

[jaeger19]

I believe the point is that nobody knows for a fact, scientifically the risk or benefit for expectant mothers, for it's too soon and for a woman who desires healthy babies, it's healthy and wise, imo. She is young and at a minimal risk of serious effects from Covid, so why take the risk which could affect her future children.

Well..actually we know the risks for expectant mothers getting covid and complications are much higher than risk of vaccine.
In addition the studies and data show no risk for those trying to get pregnant

COVID-19 Vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.

www.cdc.gov

 

[jaeger19]

Doctors dint give a whit. They are told the vaccine is safe, they get paid to give a shot and that’s that.

Um they are paid to keep their patients healthy..if they provide medical care they know will cause harm..not only do they face legal consequences. They face the economic consequences of hurting their patients.

If someone told you their doctor screwed them up..would YOU go to that doctor..

There is no financial reward for hurting patients.

 

[Ouroboros]

Jesus directly and literally said that the Law of Moses was in error. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." That is a direct and unvarnished dismissal of the Law of Moses. Also a quote from Jesus.

Your reliance on the "Inspired Word of God" is interesting, and is embraced by many. I feel that the foundation for it is sand. I could be wrong.

LORD KNOWS I've been wrong before. It's likely I'll be wrong again.

The reason I ask that this sort of thing be directly quoted from what the disciples quote Jesus as saying is that it makes no sense heard in the context of the Good Shepherd or the Prodigal Son.

I assume that the disciples were both teachers and marketers. Separating the usable information from the marketing program is something we all need to do often in more areas of messaging than only religion.

I tend to think that the later interpretations of a long lived creed always revise their predecessors. That said, what aspect of the Law of Moses does “he who is without sin” narrative contradict?

 

[Paradoxical]

Um they are paid to keep their patients healthy..if they provide medical care they know will cause harm..not only do they face legal consequences. They face the economic consequences of hurting their patients.

If someone told you their doctor screwed them up..would YOU go to that doctor..

There is no financial reward for hurting patients.

Why did they give absolution fir this vaccine then? No one can sue.

 

[JasperL]

You don’t even know what VAERS is.

Yeah, I clearly do know what it is. Correlations. Not causation.

 

[Ouroboros]

Actually, that's false. If you want to quantify "new vaccine risk" versus the risk of getting infected, then killing a patient, do that. Should employers, or patients, "blithely accept" the added risk of an unvaccinated worker? Is there any data showing vaccines lower the risk of infection, so increase the risk of a nurse killing a patient? No, the data all show the opposite. So what part of a healthcare provider getting vaccinated don't you understand? Is it better or worse to lower the odds of infecting and killing a patient? Oh, wow, that's easy - better. So what part of that is "blithely" anything?

For Becca et al. the risk of vaccines is either demonstrably very slight, or unknown. The risk to a vulnerable patient large and catastrophic and known. If she wants to prioritize the slight or unknown risk to herself, fine, but then don't whine when that decision means you can't take care of people who are vulnerable. She's not a ****ing child. Again, nothing 'blithe' about any of that.

And yet you don't quote him... Define "handle" for us. And it is truly amazing that when facts change the people following the changing facts in a "novel" virus with now several different variants update guidance to reflect those facts! What an idiot!!!!! He should get a position and stand by it no matter the facts!! That's what the smart people do.

I asked all on the thread what was the current pro Vax position on vaccine reliability with respect to the new variations. I didn’t misrepresent the current position; I stated that I remembered Fauci taking a certain position months ago. For some reason the pro Vaxxers here cant answer my question, which I asked to clarify the statement of an earlier poster. So I guess you’re covering because you don’t know the answer.

I don’t credence the idea that the studies in which you have such boundless faith are good enough to prove that unvaccinated people with natural immunity are more dangerous than vaccinated people who still can pass on the virus. You can keep repeating your position as much as you like, I will still find it presumptuous and immoral.

 

[Ouroboros]

What 'Trump Vaccine'? Did he have a hand in its research and development to claim ownership?

Some individuals have claimed that he facilitated the development in the sense of making deals with the pharmaceutical companies. I’ve heard others claim that he did nothing. I find the latter claim less likely given the speed of the vaccine’s development. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Ouroboros]

Yes. We, humans, invented the concept of deities when we were too primitive and unsophisticated to understand how the world around us works. Poor harvest? 'God' must be angry so chuck another goat on the sacrificial slab and dance around a bit. Good harvest? The sacrifice clearly worked and 'God' listened! Two thousand years later and they still believe the same crap.

Yes, I really regret bringing up religion here.

 

[Ouroboros]

No it's not.
Vaccination reduces the chances of getting gcovid in the first place.
Then it reduces the length and severity of symptoms.
An unvaccinated person who is asymptomatic but infectious for 5 days..
Has a greater chance of spreading the virus than if he was vaccinated and so his prepared immune system. Reduced his asymptomatic but infectious period from 5 days to three.

 

[Ouroboros]

Sheesh. Seriously?
Well let's start. When the smallpox vaccine and mmr vaccines started etc.. they were not 100 percent effective. Vaccinated people still got sick..you still had surges in cases..even in vaccinated people..
However over DECADES of having the vast majority of the population vaccinated.. the virus simply didn't halve enough chances to replicate and essentially become relativy non existent in the population. Enough so.. that even unvaccinated people were protected by the rest that were vaccinated.
I.e. herd immunity.
The smallpox vaccine was introduced into the us by 1800. And there were surges and outbreaks . In 1901..there were smallpox vaccination raids in cities to deal with a surge of smallpox.
We are what a year.. from the first covid vaccine to come out..
A vaccine with say average 70% effectiveness for stopping infection..
That only a few months ago was authorized for children under 5 to 12.
Against a virus that produces variants.
With a vaccine hesitant or resistant population thar only 60% is vaccinated.

So let's get this straight...the expectation is that the covid vaccine..is expected to do in less than a year..without child vaccination.. without mandate etc.. what other vaccines accomplished after decades of mandatory vaccination days or weeks after birth?

That's ridiculous. That's what I point out. The other vaccines weren't 100%. There were surges..breakthrough infections ..even more deaths from vaccination. ( they used to use live virus)
There were mandates etc.

So anti vaxxers saying " well the covid vaccine hasn't been as effective as the mmr or smallpox vaccine in stopping infection. so it doesn't work"
Well they are idiots.

More talking around the question. Yes or no,
Do you believe smallpox, measles and polio to be fundamentally extinct?

 

[Ouroboros]

You didn't provide those links to me. You have me confused with someone else.

What's the results of Becca's antibody test?

And 240 million have done the simple, free task of getting vaccinated. Not one of them will be put on the streets. If she doesn't want to get vaccinated, Walmart is hiring. I'm sick of people who want their "FREEDOM!!!" and for their to be no consequence of exercising it. They've behaving like spoiled little children. "Oh woe is me - my employer demands that I minimize the risk of KILLING MY PATIENTS!!! My FREEDOM!!!!"

I think the primary concern is individual health, not abstract freedom. Certainly that was the position taken by Becca.