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Well if the author's methodology is criticized to the point of being withdrawn from major publishers then the author may have difficulties to re-publish other work again. From here on he is tainted with suspicion. Hardly any journal would risk publishing his work again.

Talk about taking risks that would end one's career! He might be forced to teach in high school for this now!
 

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Well if the author's methodology is criticized to the point of being withdrawn from major publishers then the author may have difficulties to re-publish other work again. From here on he is tainted with suspicion. Hardly any journal would risk publishing his work again.

Talk about taking risks that would end one's career! He might be forced to teach in high school for this now!
The reason the story in the OP bothers me, is because I think there are probably other government shills in science who are a little more clever with concealing their true ideology.
 

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The reason the story in the OP bothers me, is because I think there are probably other government shills in science who are a little more clever with concealing their true ideology.
Fraud in science is just rampant. Look at the climategate scandal.

And another example. Even those mandated nutrition labels on practically every item in the supermarket are based on junk science. They are written by the weight loss industry and advocate a high carb low fat diet. Millions of people in the USA use those guidelines to decide what to eat and all it does is get them fat and sick.
 

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The reason the story in the OP bothers me, is because I think there are probably other government shills in science who are a little more clever with concealing their true ideology.

You should be bothered. It is people like us that are bothered by these position power abusers, deceitful researchers, that should keep the Institutional Review Board at bay. They allow a research to take place and should not allow him to do so from here on end.

But I know what you are after too. A deceit proof method in research. We are not there yet. We do not know how many more (if any) researchers are out there that conduct politically supported bias reports for money.

One way to really capture a scientist redhanded is to re-do their work. A curious scientist may conduct the experiment with similar steps and expect similar results for the findings to hold ground. If it does not then the previous finding loses credibility.

Unless the matter is of too much importance, too many stakeholders, etc., other scientists do not bother re-doing the study. It is because this does not happen as frequently that deceitful researchers grow bolder thinking that their work might skip this final check of correctness.

Fraud in science is just rampant. Look at the climategate scandal.

And another example. Even those mandated nutrition labels on practically every item in the supermarket are based on junk science. They are written by the weight loss industry and advocate a high carb low fat diet. Millions of people in the USA use those guidelines to decide what to eat and all it does is get them fat and sick.

Unless you have sources how rampant fraud in science is then this statement is a rampant rumor just as well. Compare properly conducted research with those that are deceitful, and see how "rampant" it comes up, then state something of this magnitude please.
 

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Fraud in science is just rampant. Look at the climategate scandal.

Would help if you had a leg to stand on. Even the partially funded Koch study by a climate denier came out with the statement that global warming is happening.

And another example. Even those mandated nutrition labels on practically every item in the supermarket are based on junk science. They are written by the weight loss industry and advocate a high carb low fat diet. Millions of people in the USA use those guidelines to decide what to eat and all it does is get them fat and sick.

You'd get fat on mostly any diet if you never got off the chair or sofa. A sedentary lifestyle almost independent of what you eat leads to sickness and weight gain.
 

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The reason the story in the OP bothers me, is because I think there are probably other government shills in science who are a little more clever with concealing their true ideology.

Well, that guy got caught largely via the peer process system of repeating the work. Found out he wasn't actually using the drugs.

As long as peer review and replicating experiments happens, ideology won't play a big role.

Remember that the Korean scientists on cloning got caught by others trying to replicate his work. The process is largely self regulating if the money is there for testing of the claims.
 
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