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That IDB / TIPP is a disgrace of a poll. In no way should you take it seriously, nor put any reliance on the 'results'. Reasons why not are enumerated well in the following article, I'll only c/p the conclusion here:
1. The survey was conducted by mail, which is unusual. The only other mail-based poll that I'm aware of is that conducted by the Columbus Dispatch, which was associated with an average error of about 7 percentage points -- the highest of any pollster that we tested.
The mailed survey was sent in three waves. The first wave included a cover letter, the survey, a stamped return envelope, and a $2 bill. Subsequent waves did not include an incentive. After each wave, physicians were called and asked to complete the survey and they were also offered the option of returning the survey by fax or email. Fielding of the first survey wave began on June 25th 2009 and all available data was analyzed on September 4th, 2009.
I understood what you meant, but dispute your premise. Most practices cost-shift to private insurance. Looking at the prospect of possibly lower re-imbursements, they are not looking at massive revenue increases.
For most successful practices, likely the opposite. Most docs are already overbooked, utilizing PAs and RNs and popping in for only the 'meat' of appts. They are not sitting on excess, underutilized capacity in terms of patient appt scheduling.
I bet they hope it covers illegal aliens as well. That way they can actually get paid for their work.
Given how much I hear doctors complaining about what a pain dealing with Medicare is, I find the conclusions of this "study" highly dubious.
That's not true. I defy you to substantiate that claim.
In 1999, health administration costs totaled at least $294.3 billion in the United States, or $1,059 per capita, as compared with $307 per capita in Canada. After exclusions, administration accounted for 31.0 percent of health care expenditures in the United States and 16.7 percent of health care expenditures in Canada. Canada’s national health insurance program had overhead of 1.3 percent; the overhead among Canada’s private insurers was higher than that in the United States (13.2 percent vs. 11.7 percent). Providers’ administrative costs were far lower in Canada.
Between 1969 and 1999, the share of the U.S. health care labor force accounted for by administrative workers grew from 18.2 percent to 27.3 percent. In Canada, it grew from 16.0 percent in 1971 to 19.1
Most of his objections can be explained away by the fact that Silver is a partisan hack, but I'll humor you nonetheless.
And how does this support your earlier statement that 30-40% of costs associated with private health insurance are administrative?
I suggest you re-read the article.
Not sure what you mean, so please point out what I'm missing.
Canada’s national health insurance program had overhead of 1.3 percent; the overhead among Canada’s private insurers was higher than that in the United States (13.2 percent vs. 11.7 percent).
In 1999 U.S. private insurers retained $46.9 billion of the $401.2 billion they collected in premiums. Their average overhead (11.7 percent) exceeded that of Medicare (3.6 percent) and Medicaid (6.8 percent). Overall, public and private insurance overhead totaled $72.0 billion — 5.9 percent of the total health care expenditures in the United States, or $259 per capita (Table 1).
I'd actually comment but as always Right does an amazing job of blowing idiotic polls out of the water and showing hypocracy of those that desperately cling to such things. I've got nothing more to add besides "what he said"
I'd actually comment but as always Right does an amazing job of blowing idiotic polls out of the water and showing hypocracy of those that desperately cling to such things. I've got nothing more to add besides "what he said"
More disagreement.
This doesn't surprise me at all. So, the majority of the public wants a public option, the majority of doctors want a public option, but the right and the insurance industry doesn't?
Why are we listening to them again?
Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.
The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.
It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.
The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.
More disagreement.
Originally Posted by RightinNYC
Most of his objections can be explained away by the fact that Silver is a partisan hack, but I'll humor you nonetheless.
Far from it.
I already said, that is not logistically possible, the Investor must be biased. 45% of any industry, but especially those in a lucrative industry like health care, are not going to quit their jobs no matter what. Doctors still have bills to pay and probably don't have any specialized training other than the medical profession which would enable them to lead the kind of lives they and their families are accustomed to.
Yeah, because dealing with insurance companies is such a piece of cake. :doh
Do you know that 30-40% of your current insured healthcare cost is administrative???
Sure won that debate, good going.
I'll match you with a pic....
And an unbiased survey (come on, if it's from Huffpo...).... of real Doctors!!!!
Investors.com - 45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul
"This doesn't surprise me at all. So, the majority of the public wants a public option, the majority of doctors want a public option, but the right and the insurance industry doesn't?
Why are we listening to them again?"
Argument from Popularity
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