Just a passing thought here.
Rather than starting a go fund me page, which apparently csnt be used to fund the wall, I was thinking a national lottery might be better.
It basically amounts to a voluntary tax people self impose upon themselves. Make all proceeds go directly to the wall. That way the people can decide for themselves if they want a wall or not.
I'm wondering how something like that would be received by the country.
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If DERP was painted on it in great big letters with a pic of Trump’s mug beside it I’d be up for contributing for that section. :thumbs:i don't support a lottery to fund the great wall of derp.
I'm wondering how something like that would be received by the country.
Just a passing thought here.
Rather than starting a go fund me page, which apparently csnt be used to fund the wall, I was thinking a national lottery might be better.
It basically amounts to a voluntary tax people self impose upon themselves. Make all proceeds go directly to the wall. That way the people can decide for themselves if they want a wall or not.
I'm wondering how something like that would be received by the country.
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Just a passing thought here.
Rather than starting a go fund me page, which apparently csnt be used to fund the wall, I was thinking a national lottery might be better.
It basically amounts to a voluntary tax people self impose upon themselves. Make all proceeds go directly to the wall. That way the people can decide for themselves if they want a wall or not.
I'm wondering how something like that would be received by the country.
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I would approve of the idea as a compromise for Trump continuing the DACA program. All lotteries have a winner so the first prize should be an autograph and a photo op with Numtnuts...
Support for the wall (which isn't really a wall and we all know this by now, but) is divided down party lines. Both sides have done a good job of convincing their base to support it, or not support it. Independents are just about split down the middle.
The ONLY opinions I pay attention to are the those of the people who put their boots on the ground at the border every day, and they say more wall would help in certain places. So give them more damn wall and let's just stop this stupid partisan tantrum throwing on BOTH sides. Figure this **** out. It's not that hard.
Just a passing thought here.
Rather than starting a go fund me page, which apparently csnt be used to fund the wall, I was thinking a national lottery might be better.
It basically amounts to a voluntary tax people self impose upon themselves. Make all proceeds go directly to the wall. That way the people can decide for themselves if they want a wall or not.
I'm wondering how something like that would be received by the country.
So buy stock in Home Depot.As long as a $35 ladder can defeat a $5 billion wall, I can't support such a waste of taxpayer money just to stroke Trumps political ego.
As long as a $35 ladder can defeat a $5 billion wall, I can't support such a waste of taxpayer money just to stroke Trumps political ego.
Trump nixed the deal with Dems for 20B if they continued the DACA program last year. Just shows you he is not such a great deal maker.
Just a passing thought here.
Rather than starting a go fund me page, which apparently csnt be used to fund the wall, I was thinking a national lottery might be better.
It basically amounts to a voluntary tax people self impose upon themselves. Make all proceeds go directly to the wall. That way the people can decide for themselves if they want a wall or not.
I'm wondering how something like that would be received by the country.
How do they use it on education funding 9f it's not legal?It would have the same problem as the gofundme fundraiser. Anybody can elect to contribute money to the government when they do their taxes or can send a check to the Treasury at any time. No one but Congress can decide how that money is allocated. The people don’t decide how money is spent when it reaches the government. For all you know, Congress will allocate it to the sexual harassment settlement fund.
If "the people" dont want the wall the lottery will flop.The People don't want Trumps Wall. Why is this so difficult to understand?
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This has nothing to do with Trump's ego. Not from my POV. I am actively listening to the real experts-the boots on the ground-and they say more wall will help.
I'm afraid this has become all about denying Trump, not protecting our border and certainly not about protecting Americans.
I would agree there is room in this to negotiate something for DACA. I'm a little surprised 5he dems have not made some sort of counter offer involving it but they may waiting for house controlI would approve of the idea as a compromise for Trump continuing the DACA program. All lotteries have a winner so the first prize should be an autograph and a photo op with Numtnuts...
I would agree there is room in this to negotiate something for DACA. I'm a little surprised 5he dems have not made some sort of counter offer involving it but they may waiting for house control
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Sorry I was not clear I meant to use the current lottery model where half goes to education and the other half is the prize money
- If all proceeds "go directly to the wall," how do you propose to pay the winners of the lottery?
- If getting the wall itself built is the "prize," then why the hell does one need a lottery? The GoFundMe achieves the same outcome and renders the same "prize."
lwf;1069465369[B said:]Reinforcing existing fencing in strategically important areas is a far cry from building a 30 foot wall across the entire southern border that "Mexico will pay for."[/B] If Trump only wanted to support border protection and repair already existing fencing, or even shore up a few vulnerable areas, he should have led with that. Once you make a laughably outrageous demand your opponent is far less likely to negotiate with you when you suggest compromise. Any way you slice it, this is all on Donald Trump and his poor negotiation tactics.
On the other hand, it did get him elected. I suppose there's a lesson to be learned here: It's not worth campaigning or voting just to spite the other party. Even if you win, you lose.
I would approve of the idea as a compromise for Trump continuing the DACA program. All lotteries have a winner so the first prize should be an autograph and a photo op with Numtnuts...
Bolded: That's done. It's over. We are well past that. NO ONE is talking about, demanding or otherwise holding out for a contiguous border wall from sea to shining sea. It is abundantly clear that we are talking about a wall system, new wall in certain areas, wall repair, technology, human resource. No, he would not have led with anything else, because he's a negotiator. Even so, talks have progressed and frankly, come more towards the middle.
Dems didn't want a contiguous wall? Trump's not asking for that now. But, does that make them happy? No, of course not.
This isn't about meeting Trump in the middle. It's about denying him ONE INCH of wall, to ensure they do everything they can to thwart his campaign promise and harm his chances in 2020.
It's pathetic and utterly transparent. They want Trump out, and Democrat votes flowing in across our border.
Dems hate Trump more than they care about border security, Americans, our welfare and our limited resources.
The bottom line for anyone willing to be intellectually honest and non partisan for just a moment, is that Trump's ask is very reasonable in terms of budget money and in terms of border security.
You know what's ridiculous? Acting like border walls/fences and preventing people from invading our southern border is "immoral", when you've voted for it in 2006 and campaigned on it in the years between that, and when Trump got elected. Now, there's literally no one on the Left willing to address why now, suddenly, everything the said and voted for in the past is anathema.
So, no, Trump campaigning on a full wall has nothing to do with why the Dems aren't working with him. Nothing.
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