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"A Bridge Too Far"

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On the Military Channel. Encores at 9:00 pm CST.

Great war movie. Historically accurate both in material culture and in the events of Operation Market Garden. They're way too kind to Montgomery, from a historical standpoint, but hey, it's Hollywood; can only expect too much from them.

Elliot Gould's Character, "Col. Robert Stout", the commander of the 506th PIR, from Brooklyn, is fiction. The Commander of the 506th was Col. Robert Sink and he was from North Carolina. I wonder if that was for legal reasons.
 
apdst said:
On the Military Channel. Encores at 9:00 pm CST.

Great war movie. Historically accurate both in material culture and in the events of Operation Market Garden. They're way too kind to Montgomery, from a historical standpoint, but hey, it's Hollywood; can only expect too much from them.

Elliot Gould's Character, "Col. Robert Stout", the commander of the 506th PIR, from Brooklyn, is fiction. The Commander of the 506th was Col. Robert Sink and he was from North Carolina. I wonder if that was for legal reasons.
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Damn, I only have National Geographic and History, and both sucks, but NG not so much. I watched the whole 3 hours of it on Youtube, very accurate in my view (rare for a movie) and epic
 
Damn I wish I had the Military channel, suppose I could always try and stream it later on.

My Great Grandfather took part in Market Garden. He was a RAF Glider Pilot and landed at Arnhem. His would probably be one of these.

GlidersonGroundArnhem.jpg
 
Jetboogieman said:
Damn I wish I had the Military channel, suppose I could always try and stream it later on.

My Great Grandfather took part in Market Garden. He was a RAF Glider Pilot and landed at Arnhem. His would probably be one of these.

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What unit was he in?
 
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apdst said:
You don't have to post a link. I know what a horsa is. :)

As well as a Hamilcar, Hamilcar Mk X, Hotspur and Hengist.

My dad and two of his brothers swore up and down that my grandpa served in a tank destroyer battalion, but they never could tell me which one, or what he did exactly.
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There may be some archive somewhere to look it up.

Try going to his hometown and looking into library or town hall records on veterans, you may be able to find him.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I believe it was a Horsa (AS.51 or AS.58).

Airspeed Horsa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Interesting. I must confess, I am not very knowledgable of WWII airborne operations, being more interested in mechanized warfare. :3oops:
WWII-era gliders are very different from what I expected, I thought they would look like the modern, one-man use gliders that stuntmen and adventurers use in mountains and such
 
Proud South Korean said:
Interesting. I must confess, I am not very knowledgable of WWII airborne operations, being more interested in mechanized warfare. :3oops:
WWII-era gliders are very different from what I expected, I thought they would look like the modern, one-man use gliders that stuntmen and adventurers use in mountains and such
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They were some ugly ass aircraft. :rofl
 
They used a Leopard 1 for the German tanks.

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But, in all fairness, there just aren't that many operational German tanks; not in 1974, either and it is a German tank. :rofl
 
They're way too kind to Montgomery, from a historical standpoint,
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How is that? Montgomery was an excellent General.
 
Oberon said:
How is that? Montgomery was an excellent General.
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How So? The only time he could win is when his opponents were already losing and when he out numbered those he faced.
 
"A Bridge Too Far" is the best war movie of all time.
 
MMC said:
How So? The only time he could win is when his opponents were already losing and when he out numbered those he faced.
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well he was heavily outnumbered at El Alamein...
 
Higgins86 said:
well he was heavily outnumbered at El Alamein...
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No he wasn't!! Don't ruin a friendly thread about history stuff with crap like that.

At 1st El Alamein, he outnumbered the Germans by nearly 3-to-1 and 2-to1 at 2nd El Alamein.

Correction corrected.
 
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apdst said:
No he wasn't!! Don't ruin a friendly thread about history stuff with crap like that.

At 1st El Alamein, he outnumbered the Germans by nearly 3-to-1 and 2-to1 at 2nd El Alamein.

Correction corrected.
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ok calm down you prick...

and before operation lightfoot the British were heavily outgunned by German forces
 
Higgins86 said:
ok calm down you prick...

and before operation lightfoot the British were heavily outgunned by German forces
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You don't know anymore about history than that and you want to call me a prick?

Operation Lightfoot was the plan for the second battle of El Alamein.

In 1st El Alamein, the Brits had 150, 000 infantry; the Germans 90,000. The Brits had 1000 peices of artillery; the Germans had none. The Brits had 179 tanks; the Germans had 70. The Brits had 1,500 aircraft; the Germans had 500.

The Germans fielded the Panzer II. The Panzer II was a friggin toy. The Brits fielded the Matilda II, the Churchill and the Sherman.

The Brits weren't anywhere close to being outnumbered, nor outgunned.

Look, I know you're a Briton and Monty is some kind of trumped up national hero to you folks and you feel a certain amount of loyalty to that, but face it, Monty was a friggin joke of a commander.

The only time he ever won a battle, was when he greatly over-powered the enemy, such as the battles of El Alamein. He screwed the pooch in Sicily, Normandy and his grand **** up was Market Garden. Then, when Market Garden turned out to be a debacle, he tried to blame everyone but himself. He was a sniveling POS, just accept it and let's move on.
 
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