9/11 Was an Inside Job

[teacher]

Next topic...

I will always think that, and will always believe that. There's nothing
none of you can say to make me change my opinion.

Yea, we know, cranial/anal inversion and all.

Gentlemen, (and I use that term loosely) your next topic for debate, TOT will take the position that water is wet.

PoliticalActivist, you start, cause we can use the laugh.

 

[rivrrat]

Re: Darn, expired...

And if at that time it had lapsed you wouldn't have?

Don't you just love English?

No, because without the certification or credentials they would not have let me in the triage area. I already knew that. What I did not consider, however, was that my cert being given by another state would have made a difference.

 

[teacher]

lemme put it like this...

No, because without the certification or credentials they would not have let me in the triage area. I already knew that. What I did not consider, however, was that my cert being given by another state would have made a difference.

Before a triage area was set up, before folks were checking credentials.

What I'm asking is, if there were still bodies laying around would you have let a expired card stop you from working.


My CPR is a gazillion years out of date, and I knew going in that I could have gotten in trouble for saving the life that I saved.

Follow me?

 

[rivrrat]

Re: lemme put it like this...

Before a triage area was set up, before folks were checking credentials.

What I'm asking is, if there were still bodies laying around would you have let a expired card stop you from working.


My CPR is a gazillion years out of date, and I knew going in that I could have gotten in trouble for saving the life that I saved.

Follow me?

I would never let an expired card stop me from helping someone if I could. Hell, without the cert, I fall under Good Samaritan laws. (which I didn't fall under when I had the cert)

I keep my Advanced CPR and First Aid up to date yearly (which reminds me... I need to do that recert soon). But the EMT cert took more "continuing education" to keep up. The knowledge I have from the cert is still very well in my wittle brain, so of course I would use it if needed. But by the time I was nearing the Pentagon in my truck, they were announcing on the radio that only certified/licensed individuals would be let through.

 

[Scott]

I see sunspots and a bad photo what I don't see is a pointed nose cone of a plane that isn't a 757 why don't you take the photo and circle what you think you see with a scanner and post it? Because honestly I don't see a damn thing.

Do you see the object inside the circle?
http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Profiles/9-11/Multimedia/Pentagon_Video.jpg

Here's the sharper image.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg


Everything you posted has alternative explanations. Plane parts can be planted. Records can be falsified. Witnesses can be planted.

Post the most conclusive piece of evidence you know of that a 757 hit the Pentagon--not a website. We can discuss whether that one thing is proof or not.
We can discuss all the pieces of what you call conclusive proof at length one at a time. Let's start with just one.


If that picture I posted above hasn't been doctored, it's conclusive proof that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon as the nose is too pointed to be that of a 757. The possibility that the picture was doctored is there though.

The picture in the first post on this page is conclusive proof that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon.
Loose Change Forum -> A 757 Does Not Fit

There is no damage where the wing would have hit the wall. The wings of a 757 are full of fuel. There would have been a big fuel fire there.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Do you see the object inside the circle?
http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Profiles/9-11/Multimedia/Pentagon_Video.jpg

Here's the sharper image.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

I see two blurrs.

Everything you posted has alternative explanations.

Ya and an alternative explanation to astronmy is that the sun revolves around the earth, that doesn't make it true or logical.

Plane parts can be planted. Records can be falsified. Witnesses can be planted.

O.K. so your assertion is that this conspiracy now involves people who planted the parts, people who falsified the plane rosters, the families who went along with the falsified plane rosters, and eyewitnesses. Tell me how you can explain the fact that not one of these 1,000 odd people you have entered into this conspiracy have not come forward.

Post the most conclusive piece of evidence you know of that a 757 hit the Pentagon--not a website.

The body parts pulled from the pentagon that match the crew and passenger lists and the family members that corrobarate that they were on that plane.

 

[Travelsonic]

Post a piece of evidence - not a website... hello Scott, are we getting a little contradictory? You posted a forum link - how is THAT NOT a website link?

Ok nevermind, I am tired....

Another image of fuselage wreckage, same or different piece I don't know.

Different pic of debris from fuselage from http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/noplane/hulldebris.html:

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/noplane/docs/primedpiece1.jpg

EITHER I'M CRAZY, or this next piece looks like a fragment that extends from the top-right of the 1A doorframe to the bottom-left of the "A" in "American":

I like the images on this site (I don't want to hotlink to the images, except for 1 below):

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

The 8th picture down shows the hole in C-ring with a piece of fuselage in the lower center of the image (atop the white.... whatever that is.):

11th picture down, same ally way you can also see the same piece from a different angle.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/noplane/docs/riskus_fires.jpg

 

[Scott]

I see two blurrs.

That's all a shill can do when he's cornered--deny the obvious.

http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Profiles/9-11/Multimedia/Pentagon_Video.jpg
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

I see a very clear image of the nose of a plane that is obviously not the nose of a 757 as it's too pointed.

O.K. so your assertion is that this conspiracy now involves people who planted the parts, people who falsified the plane rosters, the families who went along with the falsified plane rosters, and eyewitnesses. Tell me how you can explain the fact that not one of these 1,000 odd people you have entered into this conspiracy have not come forward.

I already gave an explanation for the victims. You are intentionally ignoring what I post.

Watch the last five minutes of part one of "Painful Deceptions" for an explanation for the victims.
Question911.com Downloads

The rest of "Painful Deceptions" is here.
Downloads

If somebody involved in the conspiracy were to decide to go public, the press would not publish his statements. As soon as he showed signs that he wanted to go public, he would have and "Accident", or "Heart Attack". He would also be putting his whole family in danger.
There are a lot of different plausible scenarios for all of this; you're just choosing the one that fits your foregone conclusion.

The body parts pulled from the pentagon that match the crew and passenger lists and the family members that corrobarate that they were on that plane.

See above. I'd like to hear your analysis of the explanation for the passengers given during the last five minutes of part one of "Painful Deceptions".

Post a piece of evidence - not a website... hello Scott, are we getting a little contradictory? You posted a forum link - how is THAT NOT a website link?

I should have been al little clearer. I'd asked for a specific piece of proof that a 757 had hit the Pentagon so we could analyze it. In response to that he posted a link full of stuff that had alternative scenarios because he couldn't come up with one specific piece of proof that was irrefutable.
Of course you should post any links or websites you think will help your argument but not to respond to a request for one specific piece of irrefutable evidence that a 757 hit the Pentagon.

I'd also like to hear what you have to say about the picture of the nose of the plane that hit the Pentagon.
Those pictures of plane parts are not conclusive proof that a 757 hit the Pentagon as plane parts can be planted. We would have to have a continuous video of the whole area for two hours after the crash to know for sure whether those pieces were planted or not.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I see two blurrs.

That's all a shill can do when he's cornered--deny the obvious.

http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Profiles/9-11/Multimedia/Pentagon_Video.jpg
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

I see a very clear image of the nose of a plane that is obviously not the nose of a 757 as it's too pointed.

If you see a very clear image then you are seeing things. I see a blur, everyone sees a blurr, because it is a picture of a god damn blurr you do know that extremely fast moving physical objects in a slow frame video recorder would be heavily disotrted right?

[/quote]

O.K. so your assertion is that this conspiracy now involves people who planted the parts, people who falsified the plane rosters, the families who went along with the falsified plane rosters, and eyewitnesses. Tell me how you can explain the fact that not one of these 1,000 odd people you have entered into this conspiracy have not come forward.

I already gave an explanation for the victims. You are intentionally ignoring what I post.

You gave no such explanation I already explained to you that my audio is broken, regardless you can not explain that it would have taken 1000's of people all colluding in this plot that gets larger by the second or why none of these people have been coming forward.

Watch the last five minutes of part one of "Painful Deceptions" for an explanation for the victims.
Question911.com Downloads

The rest of "Painful Deceptions" is here.
Downloads

Volume broken, explain your next crackpot theory of how mangled body parts matching the plain rosters and corraborated by the families made it into a building that had been burning for numerous hours.

If somebody involved in the conspiracy were to decide to go public, the press would not publish his statements. As soon as he showed signs that he wanted to go public, he would have and "Accident", or "Heart Attack". He would also be putting his whole family in danger.

OMFG yes thousands upon thousands of people were all in on this massive conspiracy including the families of the victims.

There are a lot of different plausible scenarios for all of this; you're just choosing the one that fits your foregone conclusion.

Not a single statement you have made is plausible, you can't explain the eyewitnesses, you can't explain the body parts, you can't explain the plain rosters, you can't explain the wreckage, all you do is make unfasifiable assertions like the body parts, witnesses, and plane engine parts were planted and the rosters were edited. Explain to me how the plain rosters could be edited when the families have corraborated that they were infact correct?

You need to get a dictionary because "plausible" is not what your scenarios are they are outlandish fairytails that you have hatched in your own mind. Anyone who thinks that 1,000's of people all involved in a massive conspiracy could be kept in complete science and that it is a plausible scenario is beyond delusional.

 

[Scott]

you do know that extremely fast moving physical objects in a slow frame video recorder would be heavily disotrted right?

Of course I do but that's not the case here. It's not blurred at all. It's very clear. Do you see the shaded area on the underside? Do you see it's consistent with the shadow of the Pentagon? I do.
As I said before--all a shill can do when he's cornered is deny he sees the evidence that has him cornered. I doubt that anybody is taking you seriously after this.

You gave no such explanation

Go back and look at post #36.
Here's what we said.

No why don't you tell me what it says, I'm done shuffeling through your bullshit, and my laptops volume is broken anyways. Tell me how the passengers bodies made it into the Pentagon, why the picture in the video evidence matches the dimensions of a 757, and why the whole in the Pentagon matches the dimensions of a 757, I double dare you.  
It theorizes that no body parts were found at the crash site. It theorizes that flight 77 landed at some militarty base somewhere and the passengers were killed and their bodies were made to look like they'd been in a crash with an explosion or something and then they were taken to the morgue.
It won't hurt you to watch the last five minutes of "Painful Deceptions".

regardless you can not explain that it would have taken 1000's of people all colluding in this plot that gets larger by the second or why none of these people have been coming forward.

Evidently they did do it somehow. The nose of the plane that hit the Pentagon closes the whole case. I gave an explanation in my last post about people coming forward. Go back and read it again.

Volume broken, explain your next crackpot theory of how mangled body parts matching the plain rosters and corraborated by the families made it into a building that had been burning for numerous hours.

We read they found body parts but that doesn't mean they did. Go to a cybercafe and watch the last five minutes of part one of "Painful Deceptions". If you want to see it badly enough, you'll find a way to do it.

you can't explain the eyewitnesses

I posted a video that put fourth a plausible theory about the witnesses. Please stop ignoring it.
Crash of Flight 77 - 911 Witnesses at the Pentagon on September 11th - Google Video

 

[rivrrat]

I posted a video that put fourth a plausible theory about the witnesses. Please stop ignoring it.
Crash of Flight 77 - 911 Witnesses at the Pentagon on September 11th - Google Video

Oh dear god! That video is such horsecrap! I *know* my friend, I *know* he isn't part of some stupid grand conspiracy!

And the fact that many of the witnesses were government means *nothing*. The plane hit the Pentagon. Practically everyone in the immediate area is government. It's the Pentagon. The buildings nearby are government owned and operated. The people near the Pentagon are most likey government. It's Washington DC. Do you really think that the FACT that most people in our nation's capital are government employees or contractors is any real surprise? Do you really think that the FACT that most are affiliated with government somehow is some grand conspiracy? It's Washington DC. Most people who work there, especially in the area of the Pentagon, are government. Because of that FACT, the witnesses are more likely to be government employees or contractors than not. This is not indication of conspiracy or lies. It's a direct result of the facts due to the makeup of the resident population.

Geez

 

[Travelsonic]

I'd also like to hear what you have to say about the picture of the nose of the plane that hit the Pentagon.

I will say this - I like to draw airplanes, and I have of late been working on one of the Boeing 757. I have learned in finding an image to use as a guide that the angle, paintscheme, and zoom can affect the appearance of the nose, as this shot:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?... (P-32)') beqre ol cubgb_vq QRFP&photo_nr=33

demonstrates, though I don't know how well. As such, I think the image you use is inconclusive not only because of the blurriness/size, but what I mentioned above.

 

[Scott]

Oh dear god! That video is such horsecrap! I *know* my friend, I *know* he isn't part of some stupid grand conspiracy!

And the fact that many of the witnesses were government means *nothing*. The plane hit the Pentagon. Practically everyone in the immediate area is government. It's the Pentagon. The buildings nearby are government owned and operated. The people near the Pentagon are most likey government. It's Washington DC. Do you really think that the FACT that most people in our nation's capital are government employees or contractors is any real surprise? Do you really think that the FACT that most are affiliated with government somehow is some grand conspiracy? It's Washington DC. Most people who work there, especially in the area of the Pentagon, are government. Because of that FACT, the witnesses are more likely to be government employees or contractors than not. This is not indication of conspiracy or lies. It's a direct result of the facts due to the makeup of the resident population.

If there are a lot of witnesses who say they saw a 757 hit the Pentagon, it's plausible that they did and it's plausible that they are all plants. Witnesses are not absolute proof as people can lie because they've been bribed, blackmailed, or are just part of the original group of conspirators.
If some conclusive proof appears that a 757 did not hit the Pentagon, evidently all the witnesses are plants.

Look at these two pictures of the nose of the plane that hit the Pentagon.

http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Profiles/9-11/Multimedia/Pentagon_Video.jpg
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

Tell the viewers what you see. Your credibility is on the line here.

It is possible that those pictures were doctored. It's a very remote possibility because the government wouldn't doctor pictures to make them self-incriminating before releasing them. Who knows though; there might be some plan that I can't even imaging in the works. There is that possibility but we still have the picture of the Pentagon just after the crash but before the collapse.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4223&st=30
(It's in the first post on this page. Sometimes it takes a while to appear)

If a 757 had hit the Pentagon, there would have been a big wing mark on the side of the wall next to the entry hole.

There's a lot of other suspicious stuff too such as this article.
Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001

This article would make an objective person very suspicious. I want to know about the serial number issue. Wouldn't there be scores of parts with serial numbers on them at all of the crash sites?

If you ignore all of this because of the witnesses, you're either blindly patriotic, or a US government disinfo agent.
Opposing Digits - Health & Awareness Community :: View topic - Rules of Disinformation

I will say this - I like to draw airplanes, and I have of late been working on one of the Boeing 757. I have learned in finding an image to use as a guide that the angle, paintscheme, and zoom can affect the appearance of the nose, as this shot:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...&phot o_nr=33

demonstrates, though I don't know how well. As such, I think the image you use is inconclusive not only because of the blurriness/size, but what I mentioned above.

I don't see what that shot you posted proves. The nose is not distorted at all. It looks just like the nose of all the 757 I've ever seen. I've never seen any picture that looked so distorted that it had a nose shaped like this.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

Take a look through here.
boeing 757 - Busqueda Google de imágenes

This one is the one that looks the most distorted and it's nowhere near the shape of the nose of the craft that hit the Pentagon.
http://www.al-airliners.be/b-c/condor/de757-200s.jpg

You mentioned blurriness. If you think it's blurry, you're either so patriotic that you're stretching your imagination, or you're a disinfo agent too.
You mentioned size too. It's big enough for the shape to be clear. You are trying very hard not to see what you'd rather not see.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Of course I do but that's not the case here. It's not blurred at all. It's very clear. Do you see the shaded area on the underside? Do you see it's consistent with the shadow of the Pentagon? I do.
As I said before--all a shill can do when he's cornered is deny he sees the evidence that has him cornered. I doubt that anybody is taking you seriously after this.

Show of hands people who thinks these are clear pictures of a pointed nose cone?

Go back and look at post #36.
Here's what we said.

Well that's just a load of crap because body parts were found at the crash site.

Evidently they did do it somehow. The nose of the plane that hit the Pentagon closes the whole case. I gave an explanation in my last post about people coming forward. Go back and read it again.

It's a load of bunk you assert that the U.S. government is able to keep thousands upon thousands of people silent about the biggest conspiracy in the history of the world, you have take this debate past any level of rational credulity.

 

[Scott]

Well that's just a load of crap because body parts were found at the crash site.

Body parts and whole bodies could have easily been planted in the crash area before the crash. There were also some people in the building who were killed if I remember correctly. It would also have been possible to put a few bodies in the craft that hit the Pentagon. The records could have been falsified. Bodies and body parts are not conclusive proof because there are lots of possible scenarios. You just chose the one that fits your foregone conclusion.
Please watch the last five minutes of part one of "Painful Deceptions".
http://www.question911.com/linkout....ns - An Analysis of the 911 Attack part 1.wmv

I see you didn't have anything to say about this.
Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001

You don't seem to be a truth-seeker. You ignore everything that doesn't lead in the direction you want. You want to support the official government version hell-or-high-water. You are acting like a stereotype shill.
I'm a truth-seeker. I just want to know what really happened. If I see evidence that the government version of things reflects reality, I'll happily accept it. I'm simply following the evidence to see where it leads.
You have your conclusion already formed and you are looking for evidence to support it. You remind me of a creation scientist. An objective investigator doesn't have a pre-formed conclusion. He follows the evidence and forms his conclusion based on the evidence whether he likes the conclusion or not.
I wouldn't have a problem believing that terrorists flew the planes as there are a lot of people in the world who have good reasons to be angry at the US. It would make perfect sense.
(See this thread)
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-theories/19724-american-imperialism.html
That's not where the evidence leads though. The US government planned and carried out 9/11.

 

[Lerxst]

Under the current forum rules, I can't tell you what you're acting like.

:rofl

You win.

Scott, if there were ANY credible evidence to support this absolutely moronic theory the left wing infected side of the MSM would be all over it and there would be riots in the streets of Washington. With as much hatred for Bush and the NeoCon's as there is, you can bet your delusional little tin foil hat wearing fanny that if they had even a smidgen of actual supporting evidence it would be over for the conspirators. The sheer magnitude of this operation alone eliminates any possibility that a successful governmental conspiracy could have ever been pulled off. However, for a very insular, low profile group of terror operatives...this could obviously be pulled off.

Seek help now.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Body parts and whole bodies could have easily been planted in the crash area before the crash.

lmfao so they snagged the plane, unloaded the passengers, slaughtered them, and then shipped them all to the Pentagon where they were able to somehow plant the body parts in the most secure building in the world. Your source about the flight landing where it did is wrong and if it did land then your whole body count theory is bullshit because there is no way all of that could have occurred between when flight 77 took off at 8:20 EDT and crashed into the pentagon at 09:37 EDT, not only that you have now brought the ground controllers into your equation adding yet 100's of more people to your conspiracy. Just how many people are involved in this massive conspiracy? Let's see who do we have so far, all of Congress, the Executive branch, the CIA, the Pentagon, the F.B.I., the N.S.A., the F.A.A., N.O.R.AD., military intelligence, numerous foreign intelligence sources, the families of the victims, the ground controllers, the U.S. media, the eyewitnesses to the crash, and most astounding of all A.Q. and O.B.L.. Did I leave anyone out?

 

[Lerxst]

The US government planned and carried out 9/11.

You do a lot of drugs don't you? I mean, drugs that alter your sense of reality and foster paranoia.

How do I nominate this guy for the "Asshat of the Year" award?

 

[rivrrat]

Show of hands people who thinks these are clear pictures of a pointed nose cone?

Not here. I see a blur

 

[Scott]

Scott, if there were ANY credible evidence to support this absolutely moronic theory the left wing infected side of the MSM would be all over it and there would be riots in the streets of Washington.

The press is controlled. Look at replies #18 and 19 of this page.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-theories/19724-american-imperialism-2.html
I posted some analyses of the US media.
I haven't been in the US since 95. I was there in 91 during the Gulf War. My sister lives in Baltimore. She told me there were anti-war demostrations in Washington that were not being reported on the national news. Who knows what kind of demonstrations are taking place in Washington. The mainstream press will underreport them or ignore them.
Also, who knows how many people read this stuff on the internet. A lot of people think 9/11 was an inside job but what can they do besides demonstrate?
You talk about credible evidence. Do you consider this to be credible evidence?
Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001
I asked for opinions on this and all of you people just ignored it.

Here is an article full of questions.
911 Truth Seekers-9/11 Inside Job: All Evidence, No Theories! - 9/11 Research Papers - 9/11 Research

The sheer magnitude of this operation alone eliminates any possibility that a successful governmental conspiracy could have ever been pulled off. However, for a very insular, low profile group of terror operatives...this could obviously be pulled off.

It wouldn't be easy but with the press on their side it would be possible. If anyone decides to go public or makes a death bed statement, the press will ignore him. If something like that isn't in the press, it didn't happen; it's not a problem for the government.

lmfao so they snagged the plane, unloaded the passengers, slaughtered them, and then shipped them all to the Pentagon where they were able to somehow plant the body parts in the most secure building in the world.

Go back and watch the last five minutes of "Painful Deceptions" again. They allegedly disposed of them where the plane landed or transported them to another place to do it and falsified the records. They didn't have to take them to the Pentagon.
That's just one theory anyway. There are others.
portland imc - 2004.10.10 - I know what happened to flight 77
I don't know exactly what happened but something happened. The evidence shows that a 757 did not hit the Pentagon.

Show of hands people who thinks these are clear pictures of a pointed nose cone?
Not here. I see a blur

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

The "Play dumb" tactic only works when the situation is a little unclear. That picture is too clear. When you play dumb with evidence as clear as that, you only discredit yourselves. I can understand why you do it. You guys are the government shills assigned to this forum and your job is to discredit the truth movement. I can assure you though that you look very silly when you say the picture is too blurry to make out. If this were a debating hall, the audience woud be laughing at you very loudly right now.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Go back and watch the last five minutes of "Painful Deceptions" again. They allegedly disposed of them where the plane landed or transported them to another place to do it and falsified the records. They didn't have to take them to the Pentagon.

O.K. so now the coroner is in on the conspiracy too. Jesus with every rebuttle you add more people to this conspiracy, just how many people are involved in this thing Scott?

That's just one theory anyway. There are others.
portland imc - 2004.10.10 - I know what happened to flight 77
I don't know exactly what happened but something happened. The evidence shows that a 757 did not hit the Pentagon.

No actually the evidence concludes beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt that a 757 hit the pentagon.

The "Play dumb" tactic only works when the situation is a little unclear.

Everyone here sees a blurr.

That picture is too clear.

It's a blurr.

When you play dumb with evidence as clear as that, you only discredit yourselves.

That's clear evidence to you? Wow.

I can understand why you do it. You guys are the government shills assigned to this forum and your job is to discredit the truth movement.

So now we're in on the conspiracy too. lmfao you can't be a real person.

I can assure you though that you look very silly when you say the picture is too blurry to make out.

Really? Let's do a poll and find out:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/20291-what-do-you-see-picture.html#post545528

If this were a debating hall, the audience woud be laughing at you very loudly right now.

I'm not the one who has so far managed to bring Congress, the Executive branch, the CIA, the Pentagon, the F.B.I., the N.S.A., the F.A.A., N.O.R.AD., military intelligence, numerous foreign intelligence sources, the families of the victims, the ground controllers, the U.S. media, the eyewitnesses to the crash, A.Q. and O.B.L., and now the forum members at debatepolitics.com. This is the online equivalent to a debate hall and guess what? Everyone is already laughing at you.

 

[Scott]

I've asked for opinions on this twice.
http://physics911.net/georgenelson

You didn't say anything about this either.
http://www.911truthseekers.org/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=5

No actually the evidence concludes beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt that a 757 hit the pentagon.

Please go into detail.

I went into detail.

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4223&st=30
There's no mark on the wall where the wing would have hit if a 757 had hit the Pentagon.

This analysis is consistent with the evidence.
http://www.physics911.net/missingwings

And then there's this very clear picture of the nose of the craft that hit the Pentagon. The nose is too pointed to be that of a 757.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

Everyone here sees a blurr.

Of course you do; you're all government shills. Every forum has a few shills working it.
http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222
If you said what you really think, you wouldn't be doing your jobs.

This is the online equivalent to a debate hall and guess what? Everyone is already laughing at you.

Just you and your fellow shills.

 

[Travelsonic]

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

The "Play dumb" tactic only works when the situation is a little unclear.

It isn't playing dumb if you can't make out what is attempted to be shown in a picture.

I really also fail to se what evidence, besides speculation and disbelief, yu have show that "proves" a plane didn't hit the pentagon.

 

[Scott]

It isn't playing dumb if you can't make out what is attempted to be shown in a picture.

It's a very clear picture of the nose of a plane that isn't a 757 as the nose is too pointed. This has all of you shills cornered so all you can do is say you see a blur which just makes you all look silly as it's very clear.
If this picture isn't doctored, the whole case is closed. There is the possibility that the picture was doctored. I can't imagine why the government would doctor a picture to make it self-incriminating and then release it though.

I really also fail to se what evidence, besides speculation and disbelief, yu have show that "proves" a plane didn't hit the pentagon.

There's also this picture of the side of the Pentagon before the collapse.
Loose Change Forum -> A 757 Does Not Fit

A 757 would have left a mark where the wing would have hit it.

I'm still waiting for an analsis of this for one of you.
Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001

Guess you're having a long meeting about this one. Take your time.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I've asked for opinions on this twice.
http://physics911.net/georgenelson

You didn't say anything about this either.
http://www.911truthseekers.org/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=5

I'm not going to comment on uncomfirmed uncorraborated speculatory articles from off the internet, it's a waste of my ****ing time.

Please go into detail.

I already have on numerous occassions you just choose to ignore the undisputable evidence.

Of course you do; you're all government shills. Every forum has a few shills working it.

This just proves how out of touch with reality you really are.

Just you and your fellow shills.

I notice you can't comment on the sheer volume of people who would have had to involved in this massive conspiracy which gets larger with your every post.