7 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue

[RAMOSS]

My condolences to the families of the deceased. It's an active shooter situation at the moment.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Police from across the city of Pittsburgh are responding to an active shooting situation at the The Tree of Life Synagogue in Squirrel Hill.

KDKA’s Andy Sheehan reports that at least seven people have been confirmed dead, possibly more.
active shooter 7 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue


Police have requested that residents stay inside their home as they have exchanged gun fire with a suspected gunman.

When officers arrived the gunman reportedly shot at them, forcing officers to use their vehicles as a shield.

Two police officers were reportedly shot.

 

[ecofarm]

There's no wait time before this goes political these days, right?

 

[ttwtt78640]

There's no wait time before this goes political these days, right?

Yep, it will likely be called either racial or political within a post or two.

 

[ecofarm]

Yep, it will likely be called either racial or political within a post or two.

Well, if the victims were targeted for race or other protected class, that's worth noting.

Politics is other issues and people.

 

[Beaudreaux]

There's no wait time before this goes political these days, right?

Why lose the momentum in pushing our own political agenda, especially while there are not enough actual facts publicly known to contradict whatever we say?

 

[RAMOSS]

In the other thread about it (we were within 3 minutes of each other), it is mentioned that the suspect is now in custody (and injured), and two police officers have been shot.

Let's hope no one else is injured or dies.

 

[Phys251]

Oh goodie, another mass shooting.

https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1056201377586864128

But no, no, no, we can't politicize this.

 

[JustHanging]

Yep, it will likely be called either racial or political within a post or two.

Attacking a synagogue isn't almost certainly a racially based attack?

 

[ecofarm]

Why lose the momentum in pushing our own political agenda, especially while there are not enough actual facts publicly known to contradict whatever we say?

I can't blame a news outlet. Both sides will be political before the sun sets. Ain't no party like a party on graves.

 

[Beaudreaux]

Well, if the victims were targeted for race or other protected class, that's worth noting.

...

Which can and will be used politically, even if for the wrong reasons such as to broad brush political opponents or entire political parties. We see it all the time on this very forum and of course, following the 2016 election, in the press.

 

[Beaudreaux]

I can't blame a news outlet. Both sides will be political before the sun sets. Ain't no party like a party on graves.

Unfortunately true.

 

[Phys251]

In the other thread about it (we were within 3 minutes of each other), it is mentioned that the suspect is now in custody (and injured), and two police officers have been shot.

Let's hope no one else is injured or dies.

It's uncommon for mass shooters to be taken in alive. Glad they were able to here. I trust that authorities can ascertain his motives (yes, I'm making the safe bet that it was a dude).

 

[ecofarm]

Attacking a synagogue isn't almost certainly a racially based attack?

Probably, and when we have a motive that's something to discuss. Politics is when we leave the setting and people therein.

 

[Beaudreaux]

Attacking a synagogue isn't almost certainly a racially based attack?

The assumption that it is, is.

 

[Verax]

Another day another deplorable, another violent attack by fine people. Let me take a wild stab, a white male racist over 50 who takes his cues from Donald Trump.

 

[ecofarm]

But no, no, no, we can't politicize this.

I believe the personal is political, everything is political. But I think we should deal with the instance, that setting and those individuals, before moving on to issues and people outside the event itself.

 

[RAMOSS]

It's uncommon for mass shooters to be taken in alive. Glad they were able to here. I trust that authorities can ascertain his motives (yes, I'm making the safe bet that it was a dude).

The latest report is that he's a white male, and that 8 people are dead, and 3 police officers had been shot. No word if any of the police officers are among the dead (yet).

 

[Phys251]

I believe the personal is political, everything is political. But I think we should deal with the instance, that setting and those individuals, before moving on to issues and people outside the event itself.

We can do both. The can has been kicked down the road far, far too many times.

Useless thoughts and prayers (and tweets) incoming.

 

[apdst]

Another day another deplorable, another violent attack by fine people. Let me take a wild stab, a white male racist over 50 who takes his cues from Donald Trump.

A racist post, to complain about racists? :lamo

 

[ttwtt78640]

Attacking a synagogue isn't almost certainly a racially based attack?

What race are Jewish folks? A Texas church mass shooting was found to stem from a personal motive. It is far too soon to stick a label on this crime.

The Texas Rangers led the investigation, with the FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) assisting.[21] Investigators said the shooting was not motivated by racism or prejudice against religion, but by a dispute with Kelley's mother-in-law.[24] There was no indication that anyone other than Kelley was involved in the shooting.[11]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutherland_Springs_church_shooting

 

[ecofarm]

We can do both.

I can wait for the politics. They're not going anywhere.

 

[NeverTrump]

There's no wait time before this goes political these days, right?

Hopefully it's not political but considering where the victims were at the time. I'd find it surprising if it wasn't a political motive.

 

[NeverTrump]

Another day another deplorable, another violent attack by fine people. Let me take a wild stab, a white male racist over 50 who takes his cues from Donald Trump.

To be fair, I don't think Trump touts the Jews are evil conspiracy theories. I've never heard him state that, but I've never heard him denounce those theories from his followers either.

 

[ecofarm]

Hopefully it's not political but considering where the victims were at the time. I'd find it surprising if it wasn't a political motive.

I mean observers getting political about it. Attaching stuff and people from outside the event to it.

 

[Manc Skipper]

A racist post, to complain about racists? :lamo

He was obviously white, he survived. That's a sad fact of American society