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65 Percent of People Taken by ICE Had No Convictions, 93 Percent No Violent Convictions

Overstayed visas are an issue as well.
That's what I mean about most illegal immigrants crossing legally. They come as tourists, or students, or on day trips or to do business and just never go back.
20,000 pedestrians cross legally every day at San Ysidro. That's what, 600,000 a month? Pedestrians. Legally. One crossing.
And 70,000 vehicles a day means 2,100,000 a month. Legally. One crossing. Course half or more of those vehicles are probably Americans but I doubt that many Americans walk to Tijuana and back.
 
That's what I mean about most illegal immigrants crossing legally. They come as tourists, or students, or on day trips or to do business and just never go back.
20,000 pedestrians cross legally every day at San Ysidro. That's what, 600,000 a month? Pedestrians. Legally. One crossing.
And 70,000 vehicles a day means 2,100,000 a month. Legally. One crossing. Course half or more of those vehicles are probably Americans but I doubt that many Americans walk to Tijuana and back.

You assume all those people legally entering are illegal immigrants.

You assume all will stay.

Reality says otherwise.
 
You assume all those people legally entering are illegal immigrants.

You assume all will stay.

Reality says otherwise.
No, not at all. I don't assume that at all. I know that they're almost all legitimate.
But I also know that the majority of illegal immigrants are overstaying their legitimate reason for entering the country.
Back in the day Jose would wade across the river with his clothes bundled on his head and work the harvest seasons, three or four months, then wade back across to his family in Mexico where his wages went much further. He was called a 'migrant farm worker'. But now he can't be sure that if he went home he'd be able to cross back so he brings his family and finds a full-time job. And he's called an 'illegal immigrant'.
 
Most illegal immigrants entered the country legally.
Do you have figures for how many entered legally and are guilty of overstay vs those who are guilty of having entered illegally?
 
Do you have figures for how many entered legally and are guilty of overstay vs those who are guilty of having entered illegally?
No. I'm just reporting what I've read.
Do you have numbers?
 
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No. I'm just reporting what I've read.
Do you have numbers?
Had I the numbers I would have posted them, though CBP should be able to produce the number of those who have overstayed based on I-94 records. I knew a few personally, though that was 50 or more years ago.
 
What does Canada do with illegals?
I don't know. It's just as easy for you to find out as for me.
I bet most would be family members. 20% plus of Canadians were born somewere else.
 
I don't know. It's just as easy for you to find out as for me.
I bet most would be family members. 20% plus of Canadians were born somewere else.

I said illegals and you know if they can find them the Gov of Canada sends them out.
 
Really? How would they go about doing that with little difficulty?
I don't know the answer to that, but my opinion is that it should be difficult to enter this country. Everyone needs to be vetted. H2A visa? Fine. Work for awhile, then go home. If you kept your nose clean while you were here you can come back. Want to stay? Fine. Pledge allegiance and become a citizen within 10 years. Learn English.

How hard is it and what is the waiting list like to immigrate to other countries?? Why is the U.S. expected to "make it easy" for everyone to get in here??
 
I said illegals and you know if they can find them the Gov of Canada sends them out.
I know what you said. And I know you don't know how that's handled in Canada.
I don't know either but I do know there's nothing like ICE roundups in Canada. If there are any issues around illegal immigrants they will be dealt with civily and with decent human respect.
 
I know what you said. And I know you don't know how that's handled in Canada.
I don't know either but I do know there's nothing like ICE roundups in Canada. If there are any issues around illegal immigrants they will be dealt with civily and with decent human respect.


Just like Ice. That's how Canada handles it. Takes no longer than 48 hrs for removal.
 
This has nothing to do with immigration law and everything to do with the Republicans promising their base persecution of non whites and blue states.
Yes this is all about cruelty and partisan reprisals against the perceived "harm" that treating all people equally has done. Taking it all out on the weakest a least protected group is cowardly and despicable but par for the MAGA course.
 
Link for what. I posted the law above. Show me different.
Show me or don't. I don't care much.
The letter of the law doesn't matter much to this discussion, does it. We're talking about enforcement, right?
 
Show me or don't. I don't care much.
The letter of the law doesn't matter much to this discussion, does it. We're talking about enforcement, right?
Let's put this way, the US is now, almost as onerous as Canada on illegals.
 
"New nonpublic data from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) indicate that the government is primarily detaining individuals with no criminal convictions of any kind. Also, among those with criminal convictions, they are overwhelmingly not the violent offenses that ICE continuously uses to justify its deportation agenda. ICE has shared this data with people outside the agency, who shared the numbers with the Cato Institute.

As of June 14, ICE had booked into detention 204,297 individuals (since October 1, 2024, the start of fiscal year 2025). Of those book-ins, 65 percent, or 133,687 individuals, had no criminal convictions. Moreover, more than 93 percent of ICE book-ins were never convicted of any violent offenses. About nine in ten had no convictions for violent or property offenses. Most convictions (53 percent) fell into three main categories: immigration, traffic, or nonviolent vice crimes. The appendix table at the end of this post has data by detailed crime and broad crime categorization."

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Interesting when you consider ICE was created to protect us from foreign threats, not serve as the president's personal gestapo.

The other day, a car wash owner accused ICE agents of acting like criminals. They are causing more damage to communities than are the people they are rounding up.
What a bunch of crap !
If they are ILLEGAL and ineligible for Asylum (which ~95% are) then ICE is totally justified in getting these CRIMINALS out of America!

Just because you Leftist DEMOCRATS LOVE oppressing people for cheap labor, has NO BEARING on how America's immigration Laws work !

These ICE Agents and Trump have been vindicated by the SCOUTS time and time again !
Despite the the Traitor DEMs and their frivolous court claims !!!

Don't be mad at ICE !!!!
Be mad at the parents who put their kids (and Communities) in this predicament, of having massive amounts of people (Illegals) be removed from America !

The DEM's have really SCREWED our country and all those illegals ! So if you want to get mad, go yell at the DNC & DEMS!
 
ALL of them are criminals, because they crossed the border illegally at some point.

Round them up, deport them and let them try their luck next time, by filling out the required paperwork for legal immigration and for the quotas in the economy (agriculture, construction etc.)

What's so hard to understand ?
 
What does Canada do with illegals?
They have them shot.
ALL of them are criminals, because they crossed the border illegally at some point.
That's both wrong and stupid. Many of the illegals in America overstayed their visas, which is not a crime.
Round them up, deport them and let them try their luck next time, by filling out the required paperwork for legal immigration and for the quotas in the economy (agriculture, construction etc.)

What's so hard to understand ?
What's hard to understand is why you think we need your advice on the subject and why you'd expect us to listen to an Austrian telling us to round people up.
 
ALL of them are criminals, because they crossed the border illegally at some point.

Round them up, deport them and let them try their luck next time, by filling out the required paperwork for legal immigration and for the quotas in the economy (agriculture, construction etc.)

What's so hard to understand ?
Says the dude in Austria with no real clue about the US and our laws
 
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