6 Things Rich People Need to Stop Saying

[whysoserious]

An awesome article that articulates the obvious for our republican friends who seem to be unable to perform these feats of logic themselves! I won't say much, but I'll quote my favorite parts since the author is obviously a better writer than I am:

6 Things Rich People Need to Stop Saying​

 

[whysoserious]

I think he nailed it. I also think its sad that he had to. Most of these ideas are common sense and only rudimentary logic is necessary to get from one idea to the other... however, when you listen to conservative talk radio stations for your news, I can see how logic could become an issue.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

There are, of course, a comparable set of things poor people need to stop saying.

The fact is that people generally have a pretty good understanding of the moving parts that make up their own lives and those of their neighbors, and no clue whatsoever about the lives of others outside of their social, business, religious or geographic circles. This leads to misconceptions, prejudice, and miscommunication on a grand scale.

It isn't a problem reserved for the rich.

 

[Henrin]

All I hear is class envy and a want for free things.

 

[whysoserious]

All I hear is class envy and a want for free things.

Yawn. That makes you #3 on his list, lol. Way to be a stereotype.

There are, of course, a comparable set of things poor people need to stop saying.

The fact is that people generally have a pretty good understanding of the moving parts that make up their own lives and those of their neighbors, and no clue whatsoever about the lives of others outside of their social, business, religious or geographic circles. This leads to misconceptions, prejudice, and miscommunication on a grand scale.

It isn't a problem reserved for the rich.

But this is about the republican rhetoric. Ok?

 

[Wiseone]

All I hear is class envy and a want for free things.

All I see is an arrogant dismissive snob, funny how you can type one thing but people read it as something else.

 

[Henrin]

Yawn. That makes you #3 on his list, lol. Way to be a stereotype.

Yawn...

In a free society willing members of society help each other. They don't go around forcing each other to give them what they need and want. Does that article understand freedom? Nope. Do you? Nope.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

But this is about the republican rhetoric. Ok?

Not really. They cite things said by people of means, what they're thinking when they say those things, and how those things are perceived by those of little means.

The whole article is ultimately about miscommunication. I guess you missed that. Which would indicate more miscommunication.

 

[Henrin]

All I see is an arrogant dismissive snob, funny how you can type one thing but people read it as something else.

All I see is people wanting tax dollars going to individual help programs. All I see is people that are demanding, stealing assholes.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

All I see is people wanting tax dollars going to individual help programs. All I see is people that are demanding, stealing assholes.

Hey, look -- an example of what I just said! :lol:

 

[apdst]

Yawn. That makes you #3 on his list, lol. Way to be a stereotype.




But this is about the republican rhetoric. Ok?

I thought Libbos got all offended when people were stereotyped?

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

I thought Libbos got all offended when people were stereotyped?

" he said, stereotyping gratuitously.

 

[Henrin]

Hey, look -- an example of what I just said! :lol:

Which post of yours? I'm sorry, but using tax dollars to help yourself or to support programs that are established to help individual people with other peoples money taken involuntary is theft.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

Which post of yours?

This one:

There are, of course, a comparable set of things poor people need to stop saying.

The fact is that people generally have a pretty good understanding of the moving parts that make up their own lives and those of their neighbors, and no clue whatsoever about the lives of others outside of their social, business, religious or geographic circles. This leads to misconceptions, prejudice, and miscommunication on a grand scale.

It isn't a problem reserved for the rich.

I'm sorry, but using tax dollars to help yourself or to support programs that are established to help individual people with other peoples money taken involuntary is theft.

You can't really refer to it as help for individual people when you get past the 3- or 4-figure number of people impacted by whatever program you're talking about.

 

[Republic Now!]

Also some background on the website.

I'd say you derive a different meaning from the article then it's intended writers. Particularly, them pointing out the humor in the miscommunication in modern day.

 

[Wiseone]

People forget that this article isn't really about arguing for certain political positions, its about showing the differences in perspective regarding wealth, whether its how the wealthy view themselves compared to how others view them OR showing holes in common arguments regarding wealth. For example a common simplification of life is, if you work hard then you'll become wealthy, now working hard is never bad advice and it'll definitely help with your finances but its hardly a guaranteed ticket to wealth.

I don't agree with everything the article says but it definitely makes some good points and gives some interesting information.

 

[Meathead]

There is only one thing guys like the OP should stop saying and that is that "I am a failure because others are rich". That's all.

 

[Paschendale]

I think the most important part of that article is the massive disconnect between how someone might intend those sayings, and the connotations that they carry. Especially number 5. Everyone works hard. Working harder does not directly translate into more wealth. The real factor is what you're working harder at doing. That engine repair man in the article works very hard, but will never be rich.

The "nation of haves and soon-to-haves" is a huge steaming pile of bull, and we should not let ourselves be suckered in by that lie.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

I'd say you derive a different meaning from the article then it's intended writers. Particularly, them pointing out the humor in the miscommunication in modern day.

Thank you thank you thank you.

I've been trying to make that point to a lot of people I know since it came out and became the new rallying cry for certain political leanings.

 

[Henrin]

This one:

You shouldn't assume things about people.

You can't really refer to it as help for individual people when you get past the 3- or 4-figure number of people impacted by whatever program you're talking about.

The program is meant for individual benefit so it really doesn't matter what the number of people affected is. Welfare is welfare.

 

[Wiseone]

There is only one thing guys like the OP should stop saying and that is that "I am a failure because others are rich". That's all.

He never actually said that, does it bother you that you are making stuff up? Why can't we stay on topic and actually address what the OP and the topic are about?

I hate people who do this, they read something and then entirely ignore it and substitute their own meaning without any regard for what the author actually meant. It's that willful and knowing misinterpretation of information that plagues partisans.

 

[Meathead]

He never actually said that, does it bother you that you are making stuff up? Why can't we stay on topic and actually address what the OP and the topic are about?

I hate people who do this, they read something and then entirely ignore it and substitute their own meaning without any regard for what the author actually meant. It's that willful and knowing misinterpretation of information that plagues partisans.

Did he say that word for word? No, of course not, how could he? It is, none-the-less, obvious.

 

[Republic Now!]

He never actually said that, does it bother you that you are making stuff up? Why can't we stay on topic and actually address what the OP and the topic are about?

I hate people who do this, they read something and then entirely ignore it and substitute their own meaning without any regard for what the author actually meant. It's that willful and knowing misinterpretation of information that plagues partisans.

What is the author's point? Rich say the darnedest things? In which case, what is the political relevance?

 

[Neomalthusian]

The author stumbles all over himself.

So when somebody else asks for your help, in the form of charity or taxes,

The latter is not "asking" for "help." The author fails to understand the difference between asking and dictating, or between "help" and "taxes."

So "anyone can get rich" isn't just untrue, it's insultingly untrue. You can't have a society where everyone is an investment banker.

The author also doesn't understand the difference between the words "anyone" and "everyone."

Are you ****ing 6 years old? Do you still think mom made you clean up your room because she was mean? In the adult world, we get asked to do things because **** needs to get done.

Taxes have no place in that little rant. They are not akin to chores, and they are not being "asked" for.

On and on and on. Any one of the lefties here could have written that. And there would be just as many fallacies and false equivalencies.

 

[Republic Now!]

The article is not credible.



The latter is not "asking" for "help." The author fails to understand the difference between asking and dictating.



The author also doesn't understand the difference between the words "anyone" and "everyone."



Taxes have no place in that little rant. They are not akin to chores, and they are not being "asked" for.

On and on and on. Any one of the lefties here could have written that.

It's a comedy article. I doubt it was meant to be taken seriously.