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475 detained during immigration raid at Hyundai’s U.S. EV site: homeland security

Airyaman said:
Who says they came last year?
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Okay.

Somebody let them come in. Should we bill Nancy, who did everything she could to prevent Trump from building the wall that would have prevented those illegal aliens from entering the US?

And someone has enabled them to REMAIN in the US. Should we bill them?

The point here is that it is OUR government...local, state and federal...that bears the responsibility for these people being in the US. That means it's OUR responsibility for the cost of getting them out of the US.
 
phoenix2020 said:
The problem of course that the @Integrityrespec types don’t realize is that large foreign corporations considering building centers in the US are often looking to replicate learnings, best practices, commonality with similar plants abroad, hence they have to send experts from those foreign sites to ensure the US one is stood up consistently. If we make it hard for foreigners to get visas to perform such coordination, well, businesses will decide it’s not worth manufacturing in the USA.
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And this is not helping American based manufacturers build more manufacturing plants in the US. Bringing in foreign companies to set up plants here is not an America first policy in action. We have an internal manufacturing problem that won’t be solved by having foreign companies set up shop here or buy out our companies, as happened with US Steel. These companies will not care about keeping America first, and will pull out if not allowed to run their companies for their own gain. We do the same thing with our foreign factories. If there is no benefit to the company, there is no reason to locate their company here, as you have pointed out.
 
noonereal said:
Sure it is. They have much of your money already and the job will not be getting completed.
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Yes, from that perspective of course it is. My post was to say that Hyundai, as the company who hired the construction company assuming it is a company with reasonable credentials, is not liable if that company hired illegals. I don't believe for a minute a company as large as Hyundai hired a fly by night company to build their facility. If Hyundai knew of their practices it is going to be a huge blow, and rightfully so, to Hyundai
 
Mycroft said:
Okay.

Somebody let them come in. Should we bill Nancy, who did everything she could to prevent Trump from building the wall that would have prevented those illegal aliens from entering the US?

And someone has enabled them to REMAIN in the US. Should we bill them?

The point here is that it is OUR government...local, state and federal...that bears the responsibility for these people being in the US. That means it's OUR responsibility for the cost of getting them out of the US.
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A wall would have kept South Koreans out?
 
SavannahMann said:
They picked up 475 Koreans according to the reports. I’d like to see the route these Koreans used to enter the country illegally.
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I find it hard to believe something of this level wasn't done with some organizational assistance, either from the contract employers here, or contract employers back in SK. In fact, the SK & U.S. contractor(s) may be the same organization(s).

BTW - This "organized" illegal employment stuff was rampant in my city's Chinatown, and was well known among those in the neighborhood and nearby. In fact, this organized lawless ethos among the Chinese caused them to form partnerships with the nearby Italian Mob and proceed in more serious criminal endeavors!

It took a massive Fed effort and series of raids, to bring it all down. Then in result to the disbanding of the Chinatown related criminal enterprise, the Italians started doing hits on the Chinese!
 
radioman said:
Good point!
If only we could come up with some way to determine if potential employees are eligible to work in the USA.
We could give the system a catchy name....such as...I dunno... maybe..... "e verify"?
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radioman said:
Something like that might work if employers were actually required to use it.
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Bingo! (y)
 
NolanVoyd said:
Republicans wont require it.

Texas won’t force private companies to use E-Verify to check workers’ immigration status, despite leaders’ tough talk​


Texas’ conservative Legislature has again and again refused to mandate that most private businesses use E-Verify. Experts say that Republican resistance is rooted in how the system could impact the state’s labor supply and economy.
www.texastribune.org

Texas won’t force private companies to use E-Verify to check workers’ immigration status, despite leaders’ tough talk

Texas’ conservative Legislature has again and again refused to mandate that most private businesses use E-Verify. Experts say that Republican resistance is rooted in how the system could impact the state’s labor supply and economy.
www.texastribune.org www.texastribune.org
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Lately, there's absolutely nothing Abbott & the Texas Legislature are doing, that I applaud.

Why wouldn't they mandate E-Verify? They harp on Sanctuary cities enough.
 
Do I need to point out that "eligibility to work" is a goddamn dystopian ****ing phrase in a society that CLAIMS to be for freedom and liberty and justice for all?

Like "You're not eligible to work here!" is a goddamn Karen-ass position to have.
 
Mycroft said:
Okay.

Somebody let them come in. Should we bill Nancy, who did everything she could to prevent Trump from building the wall that would have prevented those illegal aliens from entering the US?

And someone has enabled them to REMAIN in the US. Should we bill them?

The point here is that it is OUR government...local, state and federal...that bears the responsibility for these people being in the US. That means it's OUR responsibility for the cost of getting them out of the US.
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Yes! Please, send Pelosi a bill for preventing Trump from building a wall that failed to keep out these Koreans. Sounds like a MAGA idea to me.
 
Mycroft said:
Who let them into the country in the first place?

Should we bill the Biden pukes?
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What would it take for them to be here legally? What, specifically, did they do that was really so unforgivably wrong?
 
Airyaman said:
A wall would have kept South Koreans out?
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If they came in through other ways, someone let THAT happen, too.

Bill that "someone" so taxpayers don't have to pay to remove them...right?

Airyaman said:
Highly specialized construction.
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LOL!!

You'll grasp at ANY straw, won't you?

No problem. Here's what Copilot says about it...

Do american construction worker have the skills to build an ev battery plant

🧠 Bottom Line​

American workers have the core competencies and the industrial experience.​
 
Sidd Finch said:
Yes! Please, send Pelosi a bill for preventing Trump from building a wall that failed to keep out these Koreans. Sounds like a MAGA idea to me.
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shrug...

It's one of our fellow forum members who doesn't want taxpayers to foot the bill. I've just trying to help him find someone else to pay for getting illegal aliens out of the country.
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

It's one of our fellow forum members who doesn't want taxpayers to foot the bill. I've just trying to help him find someone else to pay for getting illegal aliens out of the country.
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No, not just anyone. You're trying to find a democrat. How about the people that hired them?
 
multivita-man said:
South Koreans are among the last group of people I'd suspect of wanting to work and remain in the US illegally. To my knowledge, they've historically not faced the same level of scrutiny in getting work or student visas that, say, Indians or Chinese immigrants do. Something just doesn't smell right here.
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LG seems to have the same issues wherever they put a battery manufacturing facility.

There were issues in Poland and in Canada. They (LG) claim that SK workers are the only ones with the expertise. News reports identified working conditions and environmental concerns from non-SK workers causing issues for LG and their partners and LG has openly spoke about non-SK work culture being an issue.

The headline says Hyundai, but the site where enforcement happened was partnered with LG. In Ontario, the site was Stellantis partnered with LG.

No doubt the actual employer will be a bunch of South Korean subcontractors, in reality they are controlled by LG.
 
Sidd Finch said:
No, not just anyone. You're trying to find a democrat.
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Democrat...Republican...doesn't matter. Both parties have done their share of allowing illegal aliens to enter and remain in the US.

Sidd Finch said:
How about the people that hired them?
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Sure. That's another good idea.

Hey, I'm all for saving the taxpayer from having to pay for the actions of people who allow illegal immigration.
 
Chomsky said:
Lately, there's absolutely nothing Abbott & the Texas Legislature are doing, that I applaud.

Why wouldn't they mandate E-Verify? They harp on Sanctuary cities enough.
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Republican resistance is rooted in how the system could impact the state’s labor supply and economy.

In other words they wont require it because they know it would hurt the economy.
 
multivita-man said:
South Koreans are among the last group of people I'd suspect of wanting to work and remain in the US illegally. To my knowledge, they've historically not faced the same level of scrutiny in getting work or student visas that, say, Indians or Chinese immigrants do. Something just doesn't smell right here.
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I think this is an interesting wrinkle.

Not that it can't happen - it indeed might.

Why I believe it could occur is the Koreans in my city are very organizational, and very exclusive. They form exclusive business associations, and work in an organized fashion work amongst themselves for the betterment & exclusivity of the group & community.

Consequently, in my city they've led all immigrant groups in upward mobility upon entry.

I don't remember the exact details, but in the "Korea-town" neighborhood in the city, one such business association was determining what to do with the just-entering-adulthood son of one of the members. The kid had his own idea of the business he wanted to start, but the association saw the need for another business and directed and funded him to do that, setting him up.

The story above involved the restaurant business, and the neighborhood had the need for some prosaic service or supply I don't remember. The kid really wanted to do something else, but dutifully relented to starting the business the association desired he do.

This example above was the subject (along with others) in a local university class studying immigration patterns in the U.S.
 
Mycroft said:
Really?

Americans don't know how to do construction work?

Bullshit.
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Correct, Americans do not have expertise in slurry formation, calendaring of electrodes, thin film adhesive dispense and the various other highly complex processes to manufacture batteries. For proof, you need look no further than to Donald John Trump who literally thinks manufacturing is "screwing tiny screws". Yeah, we're not exactly filled with people who know how to build dry rooms and other facilities that are essential to a plant like this.
 
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