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43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforcements
CNSNews.com - 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforcements
(CNSNews.com) – Another American died in Afghanistan on Wednesday, the final day of September--and exactly one month after the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan sent a confidential war assessment to the Obama administration, warning that more forces are needed--soon.
The as-yet-unnamed American serviceman who died on Wednesday was caught in a suicide attack in Khost Province, in eastern Afghanistan, press reports said.
On August 30, Gen. Stanley McChrystal sent Defense Secretary Robert Gates a war assessment in which he said more U.S. troops--and a new U.S. strategy--are needed if the U.S. is to defeat the insurgents in Afghanistan.
Since that Aug. 30 date, a total of 43 soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines have died in a war that is now the subject of much discussion--and apparently some confusion--in Washington. Forty-two of those casualties have been identified by name in U.S. Defense Department press releases (see below), while the 43rd casualty, which occurred today, has been confirmed in press reports, but not by name.
In his confidential report, which was leaked to the Washington Post on Sept. 21, Gen. McChrystal warned that defeating the insurgents will not be possible if the United States fails to "gain the initiative and reverse insurgent momentum" over the next 12 months.
McChrystal reportedly has prepared a separate request for tens of thousands of additional U.S. troops to be sent to the 68,000 already in Afghanistan.
Since Sept. 21, when the Washington Post leaked information from McChrystal’s confidential report, the White House has been on the defensive over its Afghanistan strategy.
But first, Obama welcomes golfing great Arnold Palmer to the Oval Office,” the Associated Press reported on Wednesday. Palmer is in town to receive the Congressional Gold Medal.
On Thursday, Obama plans to fly to Copenhagen to pitch Chicago as the venue for the 2016 Olympics. (See related story
Which is more inportant to Obama the olympics or US troops. There has been a request for reinforcments and a plea that we are going to lose this war id this requirment is not met.
It would be one thing for the CiC to say "no", but to do 50 or so interviews and leno, then run off to take credit for getting the olympics while troops are dying waiting for an answer?
Inexcusable, just when you think this guy can't get any worse. Shame on him.
pathetic. simply pathetic.
The request for troops was filed with the Pentagon on September 25. That is 5 days ago. Let's save the over the top hysteria and hyper partisanship.
Seriously, its not as if the President can only do one thing. I'm sure Obama and his staffers are looking at the request, weighing the pros and cons and will come to a timely decision. In the meantime, its not like he should drop everything else he was scheduled to do until this decision is reached.
The request for troops was filed with the Pentagon on September 25. That is 5 days ago. Let's save the over the top hysteria and hyper partisanship.
You keep crying "hyper-partisan" in every thread that critisizes your king.
Stop it. it's laughable.
I maintain it is you who is the over hyper-partisan obama apparachik.
"On August 30, Gen. Stanley McChrystal sent Defense Secretary Robert Gates a war assessment in which he said more U.S. troops--and a new U.S. strategy--are needed if the U.S. is to defeat the insurgents in Afghanistan"
you think that if we may be losing a war, he would get on it..... top priority.
He is not giving iraq or afghanistan the same priority he is giving leno.
Which is more inportant to Obama the olympics or US troops. There has been a request for reinforcments and a plea that we are going to lose this war id this requirment is not met.
It would be one thing for the CiC to say "no", but to do 50 or so interviews and leno, then run off to take credit for getting the olympics while troops are dying waiting for an answer?
Inexcusable, just when you think this guy can't get any worse. Shame on him.
pathetic. simply pathetic.
Let's reduce the hyperactive partisan hackery.
December 6th, the Iraq Study Group proposes what would become the surge.
Exactly 5 days later, Bush met to discuss the plan.
January 10th the plan was announced. That's 35 days since the proposal. By then, over 200 US servicemen had died. By March, 2 months after the vanguard had been deployed, the results were not excepted, with large number of dead, May 2007 was the record of US troops lost for 2007. The last two brigades got there in April and May.
By the time the violence started to decline, September 2007, almost 11 months had gone by. Probably more as the White House was likely aware of what the Iraq Study Group was working on for months.
Also remember that the Surge itself was not the approximate cause of the turn in the war. The strategy was a radical shift away from seek and destroy to protecting local communities and having troops stay in those communities for extended periods of time as well as forming strong ties with the Awakening councils. Flooding the country with additional troops alone did not produce the results we wanted.
Does Afghanistan have a workable strategy as well? Flooding the country with more troops after the blatant fraud in the recent election will not send a good sign to the Afghans.
Iraq War troop surge of 2007 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
U.S. death toll in Iraq passes 3,000 - USATODAY.com
No, I say it when people appear to be putting partisanship over reasonableness. 5 days since the actual troop request was made, that has resistance from the pentagon, including from McChrystal's boss. The delay is not unreasonable. Suggesting he is more interested in Leno than this issue is dishonest and over the top partisanship.
One thing to understand is that General Casey, the Chief of Staff of the Army, is reportedly either "concerned" or against the plan. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/world/asia/27military.html?em
Like that from the left that started the day GWB invaded Iraq...?No, I say it when people appear to be putting partisanship over reasonableness.
Which is more inportant to Obama the olympics or US troops. There has been a request for reinforcments and a plea that we are going to lose this war id this requirment is not met.
It would be one thing for the CiC to say "no", but to do 50 or so interviews and leno, then run off to take credit for getting the olympics while troops are dying waiting for an answer?
Inexcusable, just when you think this guy can't get any worse. Shame on him.
pathetic. simply pathetic.
The war in Afghanistan is probably the most important topic in the USA, along with the financial crisis, but Obama isn't only a "minister of war". He can't work only about Afghanistan.
He can at least spend as much time talking to the General he picked, ans he spent with Leno. :shrug:
As long as this is a hyper-partisan thread, here's the way I see the GOP anti-Dem...anti-Obama ...strategy working:
If Obama takes his time to consider a goal for sending in new troops............. the GOP attacks him for dragging his feet & not supporting our gallant fighting men.
If Obama sennt in troops immediately......the GOP would attack him for not having a clear strategy & wasting the lives of more of our gallant fighting men.
Get it now? (they want to bring Obama down...whether the battle is Health Care, The Economy or Wars. The GOP wants its power back!....but we voters are supposed to be to stupid to see through their "Ham Handed" BS......& yeah.....I believe their BS saying..." We know we blew through money like there was no tomorrow when we were in power but..........We're better now....We Promise!!....Things will be different next time!!!...It wasn't our fault!!....) :thumbdown
it would have made a difference? Would less soldiers have died?
So Obama, had no idea, that McChrystal, his guy, was saying that we were in trouble until 5 days ago?
You are being far more "over the top" partisan than I am.
If Bush did this, galavanted all over the world ignoring higher priorities for the olympics and Leno, I'd be all over his poop as well, Like I was for example aggressivly and completley against his bailouts.
Calling people "hyper-partisan", especially in the manner Obvious child, and you are reaching for, is simply an intellectually lacking tactic that is a highly transparent poor substitution for critical thinking on this issue for the sake of "your guy"....
... during which time I'll bet you constantly criticized him for not doing so.I believe Bush took about 5 years to change strategies in Iraq....
Of course you are.I'm gonna give Obama more than 5 days.
At least they would have died knowing what the mission was. Right now, they are in limbo, while he "Decides" what to do.
poop or get off the pot.
Bush got nailed for reading a book to a school class.So Obama, had no idea, that McChrystal, his guy, was saying that we were in trouble until 5 days ago?
You are being far more "over the top" partisan than I am.
If Bush did this, galavanted all over the world ignoring higher priorities for the olympics and Leno, I'd be all over his poop as well, Like I was for example aggressivly and completley against his bailouts.
Calling people "hyper-partisan", especially in the manner Obvious child, and you are reaching for, is simply an intellectually lacking tactic that is a highly transparent poor substitution for critical thinking on this issue for the sake of "your guy"....
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