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28 Pages That Could Implicate Saudi Arabia In 9/11

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As President Obama prepares for a trip to Saudi Arabia later this month, a CBS 60 Minutes segment has rekindled calls to declassify the 28 pages omitted from the 2003 report about the 9/11 attacks.The 28 pages are believed to expose a number of links between various officials in Saudi Arabia and the 9/11 hijackers — 15 of 19 of whom were Saudi citizens. A CIA watchdog report from last year says there is no evidence that the Saudi government “knowingly and willingly” supported al-Qaeda’s attack, but many congressmen believe the 28 pages could indicate heavy Saudi involvement in the 9/11 attacks.
“I think it is implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many of whom didn’t have a high school education — could’ve carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States,” Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) told 60 Minutes. During the interview, 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft asked Graham which of the Saudi government, charities, and wealthy benefactors were involved in aiding the hijackers.
“All of the above,” Graham replied.


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I sincerely hope that Obama sticks to his promise and declassifies these documents before he leaves office. Its about time we see them and find out the true situation and connection between the Saudi government and the 9/11 hijackers. Congress people have said that these documents are incredibly damning, its time the public sees them.
 

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Until we know more, this all belongs in the Conspiracy Theory section of the forums. At the moment all we have is speculation.
 

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Until we know more, this all belongs in the Conspiracy Theory section of the forums. At the moment all we have is speculation.

We have speculation... But the Congress people who have seen the documents and quoted in the article have more than speculation....
 

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Read more @: 28 Pages That Could Implicate Saudi Arabia In 9/11

I sincerely hope that Obama sticks to his promise and declassifies these documents before he leaves office. Its about time we see them and find out the true situation and connection between the Saudi government and the 9/11 hijackers. Congress people have said that these documents are incredibly damning, its time the public sees them. [/FONT][/COLOR]


If so, it's not happening until we line up enough replacement energy sources.

We've sort of prostituted ourselves to the Saudis because of oil...
 

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I saw an interview about that. He couldn't go into details because it was classified.

Bottom line? What can we do now it if the government was helping the terrorists? Pull support and let them fall? Then who takes over now?

If we knew the week after, would we have demanded a change of government "or else" we would have gone after them?

There are no good answers.
 

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28 Pages That Could Implicate Saudi Arabia In 9/11

well, Bin Laden and fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were from there, so there's that.
 

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Most Americans think the US is more reliant on Saudi oil than is the case. Most Persian Gulf oil goes to Europe.

How much beyond the percentage does Saudi Arabia have an influence over?

OPEC: 1960: Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, plus: Qatar (1961), Indonesia (1962), Libya (1962), the United Arab Emirates (1967), Algeria (1969), Nigeria (1971), Ecuador (1973), Gabon (1975-1995, 2016-) and Angola (2007).

They do tend to protect each other.




(There may be also other reasons we kiss Saudi arse)
 

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I saw an interview about that. He couldn't go into details because it was classified.

Bottom line? What can we do now it if the government was helping the terrorists? Pull support and let them fall? Then who takes over now?

If we knew the week after, would we have demanded a change of government "or else" we would have gone after them?

There are no good answers.

I'd say do what we did with Bin Laden.
 

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well, Bin Laden and fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were from there, so there's that.

Bin Laden's Saudi citizenship was renounced by their government long before 9-11.
 

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Bin Laden's Saudi citizenship was renounced by their government long before 9-11.

Heh heh, smart move, wouldn't you say?
If it turns out (and it looks like it will) that some of the highest positions in Saudi "government" (READ: the family) supported the hijackers, you bet your bippy they revoked his citizenship. Plausible denial and this:



After all, if YOUR family was sending care packages and support to people who wanted to attack your biggest customer, wouldn't you cover YOUR tracks? hqdefault.jpg
 

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If so, it's not happening until we line up enough replacement energy sources.

We've sort of prostituted ourselves to the Saudis because of oil...

Not really.

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Where Does America Get Oil? You May Be Surprised : NPR

Most Americans think the US is more reliant on Saudi oil than is the case. Most Persian Gulf oil goes to Europe.

Gentlemen... The oil market is bigger than just what Saudi Arabia produces and what the US consumes.

The NPR graph is misleading on several fronts. One, when we have relations with Saudi Arabia concerning their oil interests it is about more than just what the US imports. Similar story when we end up in conflict over the matter. They may only be a 8% supplier of oil to the US, but they are roughly 9%-10% to the EU and somewhere in the high 20% range to Asian nations (Japan, China, South Korea, India, etc.) A good percentage of "Persian gulf" oil does end up in Europe somewhere, but for Saudi Arabia it is a distant 2nd to nations east of Europe.

The bottom line is Saudi Arabia is the worlds largest oil supplier and market influence.

Which makes them influential in more than just OPEC itself, but from the point of view of all other oil production / consumption nations. At a low point Saudi Arabia is shipping out 18%-19% of the world's oil market on a given day, and at a high somewhere damn near 30% range. In fact, the last three times (consecutively without question) when there was a dramatic downturn in oil prices it was because of Saudi Arabia production movement altering market share. They go back and forth from being a pivot producer to control price within OPEC, to being a dominant producer in order to drive other interests into financial complication if not bankruptcy.

The oil "lost decade"... Saudi Arabia. The present oil collapse... Saudi Arabia.

I deal in this industry every single day, and it is perhaps the most shady area of modern international markets behind the illegal drug trade.
 

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Bin Laden's Saudi citizenship was renounced by their government long before 9-11.

well, that completely absolves them of any responsibility, for sure. well, except that most of the hijackers were Saudi Arabian.
 

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Irrelevant.

an absurd claim. if fifteen of the hijackers had been Iraqis, Iraq would have been leveled the day after they discovered that fact. the difference is that the Saudi Royals are our BFFs, apparently, though i've yet to see them jumping to help us with our regional problems. ****, they don't even give us free oil to handle theirs. the US needs to exit that part of the world so that it can handle its own problems. it's time to step out of the quicksand.
 

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an absurd claim. if fifteen of the hijackers had been Iraqis, Iraq would have been leveled the day after they discovered that fact. the difference is that the Saudi Royals are our BFFs, apparently, though i've yet to see them jumping to help us with our regional problems.

They helped the U.S. win the Cold War in the 1980s by deliberately holding oil prices down and starving the Soviet economy of badly needed foreign currency.
 

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They helped the U.S. win the Cold War in the 1980s by deliberately holding oil prices down and starving the Soviet economy of badly needed foreign currency.

that was a part of it, but you also have to take into account that dictatorial communism and command economies don't work. add in that the Soviets also got mired down in Afghanistan and that their population wanted blue jeans and rock and roll more than they wanted a failing ideology, and Saudi Arabia's contribution is put more into perspective.

and even if there's some way to give them complete credit for the fall of the Soviet Union, there's absolutely no reason that the US should continue to try to act as regional hegemon in their stead. it doesn't work.
 
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