Ah, the young girl first discovering Ayn Rand... and learning a whole new language. New meanings for old words....
Compassion is wicked.
Charity is brutality.
And non-existant racial bias admissions is...dum-dum-dum... racist...
Well, at least the first two aren't fantasies.
I think Ayn Rand basically attracts sheltered middle class kids with little or no real life experience and only faux accomplishments.
THAT IS NOT WHAT THUNDER SAID. Read his statement again.
Segregation ended for the most part in the early 1980s.
Shifts in 80's Failed to Ease Segregation - New York Times
White flight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
School Segregation in the 1980's: Trends in the United States and Metropolitan Areas. A Report by the National School Desegregation Project.
The pile of data showing that segregation didn't really end with the 1950s or an executive order(remember, that is your original claim) is extensive.
I get it. Really the best way to fight racism is to do nothing based on those disadvantaged by race, better would be to do nothing based on race like using only SAT & ACT scores that we can believe have nothing to do with race, best would be to not even recognize race exists. Got it.
It's not though. I find this link interesting
SAT scores show disparities by race, gender, family income - USATODAY.com
Some tidbits from it (SAT scores by demographics)
1702: Average for students reporting family incomes of more than $200,000 a year
1506: Average for students reporting family incomes of $60,000-$80,000 a year
1623: Average for Asian students
1581: Average for white students
1448: Average for American Indian or Alaskan native students
1364: Average for Latino students
The fact is, if you have the resources (good private schools, tutors, parents with college educations to help you in doing your homework) it's much easier to do well.
the last thing the nation needs in yet another randroid.
THAT IS NOT WHAT THUNDER SAID. Read his statement again.
Shifts in 80's Failed to Ease Segregation - New York Times
White flight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
School Segregation in the 1980's: Trends in the United States and Metropolitan Areas. A Report by the National School Desegregation Project.
The pile of data showing that segregation didn't really end with the 1950s or an executive order(remember, that is your original claim) is extensive.
It's not though. I find this link interesting
SAT scores show disparities by race, gender, family income - USATODAY.com
Some tidbits from it (SAT scores by demographics)
1702: Average for students reporting family incomes of more than $200,000 a year
1506: Average for students reporting family incomes of $60,000-$80,000 a year
1623: Average for Asian students
1581: Average for white students
1448: Average for American Indian or Alaskan native students
1364: Average for Latino students
The fact is, if you have the resources (good private schools, tutors, parents with college educations to help you in doing your homework) it's much easier to do well.
I feel that until we make race a non factor that racism will persist. Why should any application (or person for that matter) need to know race unless race is somehow at least in part a deciding factor.
Does a school have a right to create a student body that represents diversity, a mix of ideas and experiences?
Does a school have a right to create what they believe is an ideal academic environment?
Does a school have a right to create a student body that represents diversity, a mix of ideas and experiences?
If you've ever been in a study group with people from different socioeconomic backgrounds--you'd understand the power of a diverse student body.
If you think the financial aide student with lower SAT scores has nothing to teach YOU... If you think he didn't work his ass off and overcome tremendous obstacles to get there. Then you are the racist.
Not the administrators that painstakingly picked out the right mix of students to BETTER their University.
Strange that the lilly white Randroids never complain about the football and basketball scholarships. Imagine the Michigan State O-line with only high SAT scores...
Private school yes. A public or state university? No. Race since it is just a social construct should not be a deciding factor.
You also learn who the weak link is and don't want them in your group. A low achiever is a low achiever no matter what race.
So I should assume the guy not studying and drinking beers worked his ass off simply because of his race? Oh that's rich.
LOL! Or better yet, to meet the quota.
Well a dumb ass that is good at sports should not get a free ride either.
A study of the Berkeley student body found that those minority students admitted with higher qualifications graduated at a much higher rate than those admitted under “race-sensitive” standards. - Racial Quotas in College Admissions: A Critique of the Bowen and Bok Study | Hoover Institution
No way, that can't be right?
A school's purpose is to educate and that's it, not form some pc-tard feel good diversity coalition.
I get it. Really the best way to fight racism is to do nothing based on those disadvantaged by race, better would be to do nothing based on race like using only SAT & ACT scores that we can believe have nothing to do with race, best would be to not even recognize race exists. Got it.
So, a diverse student body doesn't increase the educational value of the overall experience for each student.
(I already know the answer, I just want to see what you say)
And why are upper-middle income students with SAT classes and tutors more qualified than lower income students without those advantages?
I'm not sure that you understand, each student must meet the minimum qualifications. GPA + SAT are only two of many factors administrators consider when reviewing an application.
Again I mention, you don't hear a lot of complaining about star running backs who barely qualified for admission.
Race shouldn't be the focus. It should be on economic status. Like Sen Webb said from Virginia, he finds it hard to believe that a poor white kid from coal mining country has advantages over a middle class black kid from NY.
The fact is the economic class of your parents has more bearing on where you end up than their race.
Haz that all sounds good...but there are many more variables ...for example the disadvantaged white kid that busts his ass to get good grades to get into school and works like a dog for a few bucks and gets pass over for a less qualified black...thats just ONE of many variables that have made AA outdated with a big need to be revamped...
IMHO based on my years of experience in the streets...blacks nor any single race or ethnicity have an exclusive on disadvantaged...disproportionate...yes...AA needs to be redone...parts of it gotten rid of, some updated and maybe some new...but as its written it needs to go
The last part would go a long way into ending racism.
The root of the black problem is the democrat party's policies of telling black americans they are too stupid to make it on their own without the assistance of a big government under the control of democrat politicians and that they are victims of all non-liberal whites, a racist system and american history.If blacks are so equal then how come they have to be patronized like this and get special treatment.
It is undeniable racism but for the last 40 years reality has been twisted and manipulated by the rules and taboos of Political Correctness which has led to government sanctioned and socially accepted racism and anyone who complains or objects is labeled a "Racist".I guess its not racism if the people being discriminated against are white.
Wow.The part that gives me pause is that 90+% of black americans regularly vote a straight democrat ticket and the fact that they have so easily accepted the democrat party's evaluation of their intelligence and capabilities makes me question whether they actually are capable of competing in a modern capitalist system, free of government assistance.
The root of the black problem is the democrat party's policies of telling black americans they are too stupid to make it on their own without the assistance of a big government under the control of democrat politicians and that they are victims of all non-liberal whites, a racist system and american history.
The part that gives me pause is that 90+% of black americans regularly vote a straight democrat ticket and the fact that they have so easily accepted the democrat party's evaluation of their intelligence and capabilities makes me question whether they actually are capable of competing in a modern capitalist system, free of government assistance.
It is undeniable racism but for the last 40 years reality has been twisted and manipulated by the rules and taboos of Political Correctness which has led to government sanctioned and socially accepted racism and anyone who complains or objects is labeled a "Racist".
Western Civilization has become a Common Sense free zone which helps to eliminate dissent and promote acceptance of PC NewSpeak when it does such things as reclassify illegal aliens as "Undocumented Workers"...White Guilt requires that you hang your head in shame and accept your fate.
(you can count me out cuz I live in the real world)
The root of the black problem is the democrat party's policies of telling black americans they are too stupid to make it on their own without the assistance of a big government under the control of democrat politicians and that they are victims of all non-liberal whites, a racist system and american history.
The part that gives me pause is that 90+% of black americans regularly vote a straight democrat ticket and the fact that they have so easily accepted the democrat party's evaluation of their intelligence and capabilities makes me question whether they actually are capable of competing in a modern capitalist system, free of government assistance.
Legally, in part due to AA, race can't be the basis for admission. That is why everyone who sues a colege for making a decision based on race wins.
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