2019 set to be warmer than 2018

[Terryj]

Have any of you check out Dr. Roy Spencer's research? Or how about Dr. Daniel Britt's research? Dr. Britt is a geologist, and has examined the climate cycles through the geologic record, according to his research the planet is the coldest it has been in 450 million years. We are technically still in an ice age, just an interlude called interglacial warming period.

Here is his graph of the climate for the last 500 million years, we are currently in the Phanerozoic Era of the geologic time record.


You can see by his measurements that the climate has been much hotter than today, and that today we are the coldest we have been in 450 million years.

Here is his talk on Earth, Orbits and History of Climate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgNxF2HlN3w

Here is another link on how the Sun effects our climate far more that humans could ever hope to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O6bh8OpL70

 

[Surface Detail]

Have any of you check out Dr. Roy Spencer's research? Or how about Dr. Daniel Britt's research? Dr. Britt is a geologist, and has examined the climate cycles through the geologic record, according to his research the planet is the coldest it has been in 450 million years. We are technically still in an ice age, just an interlude called interglacial warming period.

Here is his graph of the climate for the last 500 million years, we are currently in the Phanerozoic Era of the geologic time record.
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You can see by his measurements that the climate has been much hotter than today, and that today we are the coldest we have been in 450 million years.

Here is his talk on Earth, Orbits and History of Climate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgNxF2HlN3w

Here is another link on how the Sun effects our climate far more that humans could ever hope to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O6bh8OpL70

That is obviously wrong. What about the last glaciation, 20000 years ago, when ice sheets covered much of northern land masses? I think you'll find that it was significantly colder then than it is today!

 

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[Terryj]

That is obviously wrong. What about the last glaciation, 20000 years ago, when ice sheets covered much of northern land masses? I think you'll find that it was significantly colder then than it is today!

The last glaciation period is still with us, just less of it. That is why we still have ice in the far northern and southern hemisphere, technically we are still in an ice age, but we are in a warm period of this ice age. Will the planet continue to warm, most likely yes, just like it has done in the past until we can consider this ice age has completed it's cycle. Then we can expect the temps to be where they were during the Cretaceous period, sea levels will be higher, broad leaf trees will be growing in the Arctic and the Antarctic will be ice free once again.

 

[Into the Night]

You're a legend in your own mind. You do not show the aptitude, humility, and thirst for knowledge to have an accredited scientific degree. My guess is you have some kind of 2-year Tech school degree.

Insult fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Logical Thinking Fallacy.

Buzzword fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Every year will be nearly the warmest on record.
At least as long as the need for it to be deemed so is still there.

Yup. They create these 'warmest years on record', and have to, in order to justify their doomsday religion.

 

[Into the Night]

Because it’s all a....Giant Global Conspiracy!

Luckily, we have high school educated weather technicians who understand more than the climate scientists to blow the lid off of the charade!

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

 

[Into the Night]

Meh, some in this thread care about: Do you agree with my agenda, if you do your science or related credentials are immaterial! If you disagree, then no matter what experience, training or the like you have it will be attacked and belittled and you will be branded a terrible human for daring to disagree.

I see you've noticed that pattern with the Church of Global Warming as well.

 

[Into the Night]

Well... no.

It’s the people who tell us that they know more than the scientists who study this (but have little credentials or education themselves) that get belittled and ridiculed.

Appropriately, I might add.

Science isn't a 'study'. It isn't any credential or education. It is not even scientists. It is not people at all.

Science is a set of falsifiable theories. That's is. That's all.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. This is a math problem, not anything to do with science.

Climate 'scientists' deny science and mathematics.

 

[Renae]

I see you've noticed that pattern with the Church of Global Warming as well.

I spent 10 years doing Aviation Meteorology, and Three Goofs, has viciously slandered and attacked my service, my training and my knowledge of Weather, Climate and Atmospheric sciences because I disagree with the AGW world View. It's quite disgusting really.

 

[Renae]

Science isn't a 'study'. It isn't any credential or education. It is not even scientists. It is not people at all.

Science is a set of falsifiable theories. That's is. That's all.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. This is a math problem, not anything to do with science.

Climate 'scientists' deny science and mathematics.

AGW is the modern day Eugenics movement, politically and science wise.

 

[Pedestrian]

That shows that since 2000 the actuals have tracked way below the projections ,especially if you take the outlier El Nino 2015-2016 numbers out. Why'd you post this?
LAFF

Because a few years is not a trend. However, 40 years is a trend and that trend continues today.

 

[Arby]

Yup. They create these 'warmest years on record', and have to, in order to justify their doomsday religion.

Well, I hope they're right, this past summer was overwhelmingly wet. Half the good car shows I wanted to attend were rained out!

 

[Threegoofs]

I spent 10 years doing Aviation Meteorology, and Three Goofs, has viciously slandered and attacked my service, my training and my knowledge of Weather, Climate and Atmospheric sciences because I disagree with the AGW world View. It's quite disgusting really.

What’s disgusting is to pretend some low level training you got somehow qualifies you to interpret science better than expert scientists.

 

[lwf]

The last glaciation period is still with us, just less of it. That is why we still have ice in the far northern and southern hemisphere, technically we are still in an ice age, but we are in a warm period of this ice age. Will the planet continue to warm, most likely yes, just like it has done in the past until we can consider this ice age has completed it's cycle. Then we can expect the temps to be where they were during the Cretaceous period, sea levels will be higher, broad leaf trees will be growing in the Arctic and the Antarctic will be ice free once again.

I think what alarms most scientists is not the average current temperature itself, but the rate at which the temperature is changing. The Earth is in no danger of turning into the next Venus, but due to the recent uptick in CO2 emissions caused by human activity the rate of average temperature increase is drastically higher than scientists estimate it has ever been. What in the past took millennia has taken less than a century. This is alarming not because humans are going to boil alive, but because the ecosystem which has adapted to (relatively) cooler temperatures won't have the time it needs to adapt to a suddenly warmer planet.

 

[Into the Night]

I spent 10 years doing Aviation Meteorology, and Three Goofs, has viciously slandered and attacked my service, my training and my knowledge of Weather, Climate and Atmospheric sciences because I disagree with the AGW world View. It's quite disgusting really.

He is convinced you don't exist.

Thank you for your service, sir. Me and a lot of other pilots thank you for what you do.

 

[Into the Night]

AGW is the modern day Eugenics movement, politically and science wise.

No so much eugenics, but the Church of Global Warming DOES stem from the Church of Karl Marx.

It's goals are the same: to destroy capitalism and implement socialism.

 

[Into the Night]

Well, I hope they're right, this past summer was overwhelmingly wet. Half the good car shows I wanted to attend were rained out!

Sucks. My father in law used to love attending those shows in PA before he passed away.

Perhaps next summer you'll get better weather!

 

[Media_Truth]

I spent 10 years doing Aviation Meteorology, and Three Goofs, has viciously slandered and attacked my service, my training and my knowledge of Weather, Climate and Atmospheric sciences because I disagree with the AGW world View. It's quite disgusting really.

Not another Conspiracy theorist, are you? Another who says that thousands and thousands of Climatologists around the world are all living a lie.

 

[Into the Night]

What’s disgusting is to pretend some low level training you got somehow qualifies you to interpret science better than expert scientists.

Such a meteorologist IS an expert scientist, Goof.

 

[Into the Night]

I think what alarms most scientists is not the average current temperature itself, but the rate at which the temperature is changing.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

The Earth is in no danger of turning into the next Venus,

Obviously, since we have nowhere near as thick an atmosphere.

but due to the recent uptick in CO2 emissions caused by human activity the rate of average temperature increase

CO2 has no capability to warm the Earth. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

The 'greenhouse' effect can't work. It violates the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. It also builds a paradox.

is drastically higher than scientists estimate it has ever been.

Science isn't a casino. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.

What in the past took millennia has taken less than a century.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. We don't have nearly enough thermometers, and the ones we do have are not uniformly spaced.

This is alarming not because humans are going to boil alive, but because the ecosystem which has adapted to (relatively) cooler temperatures won't have the time it needs to adapt to a suddenly warmer planet.

Did you know the ecosystem undergoes a temperature change of over 100 deg F EVERY YEAR? It's called 'Winter' and 'Summer'.

 

[Into the Night]

Not another Conspiracy theorist, are you? Another who says that thousands and thousands of Climatologists around the world are all living a lie.

They are. Climate 'scientists' deny science and mathematics. They are nothing more than priests in the Church of Global Warming.

 

[lwf]

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Correct. Fortunately it is possible, however, to calculate the average temperature of the Earth to within a few thousandths of a degree and then proceed from there.

The 'greenhouse' effect can't work. It violates the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. It also builds a paradox.

Can you explain how a greenhouse works?

Did you know the ecosystem undergoes a temperature change of over 100 deg F EVERY YEAR? It's called 'Winter' and 'Summer'.

Do you therefore conclude that plants and animals adapted to the climate at northern latitudes are equally well-suited to the climate at the equator?

 

[gfm7175]

Correct. Fortunately it is possible, however, to calculate the average temperature of the Earth to within a few thousandths of a degree and then proceed from there.

Nope. That's not possible either. We don't have enough thermometers to uniformly space them across the Earth. If you start out with random garbage numbers to average out, you're going to end up with a random garbage average of those numbers. Temperatures can vary very drastically by the mile. We don't have enough thermometers in enough locations across the Earth (uniformly spaced) to come up with an accurate temperature of the Earth.

Can you explain how a greenhouse works?

A greenhouse is an enclosed area with a transparent roof. The sun sends energy into the greenhouse through the transparent roof. The walls and transparent roof of the greenhouse act as a coupling reducer between the air inside the greenhouse and the air outside the greenhouse. Thus, less energy is required to warm the air trapped inside the greenhouse due to the coupling reducer and the transparent roof which easily allows the sun's energy into the greenhouse. This works similar to how a blanket works to keep us warm. The blanket traps air underneath it so that our bodies have an easier time keeping us warm.

Do you therefore conclude that plants and animals adapted to the climate at northern latitudes are equally well-suited to the climate at the equator?

I'm not seeing how this follows...