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2 men held over Boston scare released on bond (Edited)

Re: Boston authorities are total frickin' idiots

This hoax is an example of the failure our national security has proven itself to be. It has shown that the current measures taken by the Bush administration and our Homeland Security are simply not working. Had these been real bombs people in Boston would have been very screwed. These guys managed to place these objects around that particular for 3 weeks before they were caught. Think about it really slowly. A few guys are placing bomb looking objects around a city for 3 entire weeks before they are stopped. It doesn't matter if they were real of not. They managed to show the weaknesses the current anti-terrorism measures have.

How in the hell could someone miscronstue this guy
http://iceangel2133.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mooninites.jpg
for a bomb? It's a weird looking character, why would someone think this is a bomb and cause for alarm?
 
I find it sorta odd that no one has even made mention of the two whacko morons that are being held.

The way they conducted themselves at the press conference was absolutely ridiculous and just shows how some people do not respect authority or have respect for other people.

On a personal note......Now I'm not a violent woman BUT had I been at that press conference, someone would have had to restrain me, because I would have wrapped those dreadful gross dredlocks around that morons neck. :rofl He wanted to talk about hair.......I'd have made his wish come true.

While what they talked about had nothing to do with the case and was a bit odd, they were instructed by their attorney to not talk about the case. They weren't going to mention anything about what or why they did what they did, not yet. Everything will come out in the wash in the end, it's pretty trivial case.

They didn't care whatsoever about anyone they just might have terrorized. No remorse. I am quite sure some liberal judge sitting on the bench in Boston will give these two sickos a pat on the back and send them on their way. And in a year or so they will both have their own reality show.

They really did nothing wrong. There was no way any rational sort of person would have misconstrued the mooninites for a bomb, and it was quite obvious a publicity stunt as the same thing happened in 9 other cities...though they didn't freak out there. There should be very minimal punishment as they did nothing terribly wrong, and it wasn't their fault Boston is apparently run by a bunch of retards.

Now Boston might have overreacted who knows.....but can we be to careful?

They all made me sick to my stomach.

We can be too "careful" and this case well demonstrated this point. There was nothing to freak about, the city cause the hysteria and shutdown all because of a friggin' Lite Bright. Jokes on them, and now their pissed because they are going to be the butt of many a joke for some time now. If the terrorists are going to get us, they definitely aren't going to do so by unshaped charges made to look like the mooninites...most likely they won't get us at all. This was merely a publicity stunt, nothing more; no major laws were broken by those whom did it. 10 cities, and only Boston freaked out and wet themselves, the rest handled it calmly. I guess this only proves that Massachusetts is our own little France.
 
I can't believe the media is still portraying this as anything more than Boston P.D.'s utter lack of competence. I was reading that the little LED's (of a cartoon character giving the finger) were placed around Boston for three weeks. Overreaction does not equate to vigilance against terrorism. It's stupid. It's really really stupid.
 
I find it sorta odd that no one has even made mention of the two whacko morons that are being held.

The way they conducted themselves at the press conference was absolutely ridiculous and just shows how some people do not respect authority or have respect for other people.

On a personal note......Now I'm not a violent woman BUT had I been at that press conference, someone would have had to restrain me, because I would have wrapped those dreadful gross dredlocks around that morons neck. :rofl He wanted to talk about hair.......I'd have made his wish come true.

So wait...since when did it become a crime not to answer the press's questions? How is not answering a reporter any show of disrespect for authority? If anything, the reporters were idiots for showing what was an obvious refusal to answer their questions....as their lawyer instructed them to do.
 
Damn this story has been blown up way too big. Maybe the Boston authorities could have checked some of the signs before freaking the ***** out. "OH MY GOD, IT'S THE TERRORISTS." What a bunch of cry babies, "They put that sign less than a mile from the airport! How dare they." If this is how people respond to guerilla marketing, I guess were all just a bunch of ******s. I'm gonna go hide under my bed now. :2wave:

No they can't wait and delay for anything when the public safety is the issue. These guys pulled an incredibly stupid stunt. And they think it is something to laugh about. What if it is a bomb next time and they are afraid to act too quickly and it goes off and kills people.

This is not stuff we play around with and I hope, especially after their performance at their news conference, they get the book thrown at them to teach them a lesson and for others to take note, you can't go around doing this stupid stuff and think it's funny.
 
No they can't wait and delay for anything when the public safety is the issue. These guys pulled an incredibly stupid stunt. And they think it is something to laugh about. What if it is a bomb next time and they are afraid to act too quickly and it goes off and kills people.

This is not stuff we play around with and I hope, especially after their performance at their news conference, they get the book thrown at them to teach them a lesson and for others to take note, you can't go around doing this stupid stuff and think it's funny.

How the hell could anybody mistake that for a bomb? It's a cheap LED with a cartoon character on it. Even the description the authorities used for "bomb" could have easily described a discarded VCR. I guess anything square with exposed wires is now a terrorist threat? :roll:
 
Re: Boston authorities are total frickin' idiots

How in the hell could someone miscronstue this guy
http://iceangel2133.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mooninites.jpg
for a bomb? It's a weird looking character, why would someone think this is a bomb and cause for alarm?

If you are looking at it from behind or below and you see batteries hooked up to a crude circuit board it is very conceivable to think it might be an explosive of some type. Even the bomb experts didn't more too quickly on them did they.

Look there is NO excuse for this extremely stupid and dangerous stunt these guys pulled.
 
Re: Boston authorities are total frickin' idiots

If you are looking at it from behind or below and you see batteries hooked up to a crude circuit board it is very conceivable to think it might be an explosive of some type. Even the bomb experts didn't more too quickly on them did they.

Look there is NO excuse for this extremely stupid and dangerous stunt these guys pulled.

Well the question begs: did they intentionally set out to make people believe these cheap LED's were bombs or did they place marketing tools that got misconstrued?
 
How the hell could anybody mistake that for a bomb? It's a cheap LED with a cartoon character on it. Even the description the authorities used for "bomb" could have easily described a discarded VCR. I guess anything square with exposed wires is now a terrorist threat? :roll:

From behind and above it could look like a bomb, from a distance it could and it did even to experts. A discarded VCR could look like a crude bomb especially in some of the locations they were put.

I guess anything square with exposed wires is now a terrorist threat?

Planted on a bridge, or a public roadway, or a public building. You better believe it. It was before and it will continue to draw the very careful scrutiny of officials and get you in big trouble if you plant such things.

There is NO excuse for these stupid fools.
 
From behind and above it could look like a bomb, from a distance it could and it did even to experts. A discarded VCR could look like a crude bomb especially in some of the locations they were put.

I suppose it did look like a bomb to experts that were told there was a bomb waiting for them in X location...:roll:

Planted on a bridge, or a public roadway, or a public building. You better believe it. It was before and it will continue to draw the very careful scrutiny of officials and get you in big trouble if you plant such things.

There is NO excuse for these stupid fools.

Pfft. LED's visibly placed for public view as a marketing plan are not terrorist threats no matter how you try to play it off. Boston authorities overreacted and the more they caterwaul about it the more sane and reasonable people are going to laugh at them.
 
Re: Boston authorities are total frickin' idiots

Well the question begs: did they intentionally set out to make people believe these cheap LED's were bombs or did they place marketing tools that got misconstrued?

Who cares? What they did was stupid either way, a major inconvenience to the public, a big waste of public money and what if, while all the Boston resources had been engaged in dealing with these there HAD been a real threat develope?

And after the lack of remorse for their actions the two perps have shown, throw the book at them.
 
I would expect "experts" to examine problems from all sides, not just the back. No matter what, these things were clearly not bombs and posed no threat what so ever. You can debate the intellectual amplitude of such an act, but there was nothing actually done which put people at risk. The most risk came from the over reaction of city officials, and not by the initial publicity stunt. How much longer till a cardboard box marked "bomb" shuts down a city? This paranoia is getting a bit on the ridiculous side, and if we're going to let silly little things like this shut down a major city than we have more threats to our stability than the terrorists themselves could pose.
 
I suppose it did look like a bomb to experts that were told there was a bomb waiting for them in X location...:roll:

Yes after several people reported seeing what look like it could be a bomb, and the bomb squad saw circuit boards and batteries I imagine it did look like a bomb to them until they were darn convinced othewise. It's their lives on the line not yours.




You can "Pfft" it all you want you are in no position to second guess the people that are charged with protecting the public. They did exactly as they are trained to do and practice doing. They can't take the chances you seem so comfortable with now that we know exactly what they were.

They are not the bad guys in this, they are not the idiots.
 
Re: Boston authorities are total frickin' idiots

Who cares? What they did was stupid either way, a major inconvenience to the public, a big waste of public money and what if, while all the Boston resources had been engaged in dealing with these there HAD been a real threat develope?

And after the lack of remorse for their actions the two perps have shown, throw the book at them.

Well when stupidity becomes a criminal offense, get back to me.

When "what if"'s can be entered into evidence in legal proceedings, raise your "point" with me at that time.
 
Yes after several people reported seeing what look like it could be a bomb, and the bomb squad saw circuit boards and batteries I imagine it did look like a bomb to them until they were darn convinced othewise. It's their lives on the line not yours.





You can "Pfft" it all you want you are in no position to second guess the people that are charged with protecting the public. They did exactly as they are trained to do and practice doing. They can't take the chances you seem so comfortable with now that we know exactly what they were.

They are not the bad guys in this, they are not the idiots.

The day I freak out over an LED of a cartoon giving the finger, you can call me an idiot too. Until then, I stand by my assessment that the Boston Authorities overreacted and look like a bunch of buffoons.
 
I would expect "experts" to examine problems from all sides, not just the back.

And that takes time. So you are in charge, there is a report of a bomb on a bridge carrying thousands of people over it. Do you shut the bridge down immediately or let people continue over it while you look?

No matter what, these things were clearly not bombs

If they clearly were not bombs then no one would have ever thought they were bombs. But the people responsible for your life can't take that chance.


and posed no threat what so ever.

We know now.

You can debate the intellectual amplitude of such an act, but there was nothing actually done which put people at risk.

That doesn't matter what they did still violated the law, you don't plant packages of ANY kind on public throughfares or public buildings.

The most risk came from the over reaction of city officials,

The risk came from the idiots who planted these things.

How much longer till a cardboard box marked "bomb" shuts down a city?

Cardboard boxes NOT marked do that now.

This paranoia is getting a bit on the ridiculous side,

Yeah, say that when a bomb does go off.

and if we're going to let silly little things

It wasn't a silly little thing and that's why the judge show throw the book at them to teach them it wasn't a silly little thing and to make sure people like you understand it is not a silly little thing.

like this shut down a major city than we have more threats to our stability than the terrorists themselves could pose.

That's why we need to nip it in the bud right now.

What if they had gone into major airports and left knapsacks with a picture of the cartoon character sitting there so people could find them and keep them. Of course shutting down the airports and requiring them to be evacuated and the bomb squad called out? Over-reacting?

What if terrorist put lights on their bombs so they could attract media attention to come watch it explode, you know get a few news helicopters flying overhead while they set it off, while the police tried to get close to see what it was? NOT inconceivable. The authorities can't take those chances and you can't demand they do until YOU volunteer to go be on that bomb squad or have to make those decisions.
 
The day I freak out over an LED of a cartoon giving the finger, you can call me an idiot too. Until then, I stand by my assessment that the Boston Authorities overreacted and look like a bunch of buffoons.

The day you get elected to make those decisions or volunteer to go disarm bombs let me know.
 
The day you get elected to make those decisions or volunteer to go disarm bombs let me know.

Then the day you get the authority to "throw the book" at anyone, anywhere you let me know, too. :mrgreen:
 
We can not allow fear to overrule rationality. When we do this, we give ourselves to all sorts of panics. Under that condition, we can not effectively function. We should learn a lesson from this, and that should be to not freak out at every little thing. The stupidity of such an act aside, no one was ever in any real danger and the "crimes" they are charged with are nothing huge. They should be given a light sentence since there was never any harm nor was their attempt any sort of act to purposefully inspire a panic.
 
We can not allow fear to overrule rationality.

The reaction of those charged with protecting us was perfectly rational. Planting these devices in the exact same locations terrorist might plant explosives was irrational and stupid.

When we do this, we give ourselves to all sorts of panics.

When people do stupid stunts like this it can cause all sorts of panic.

Under that condition, we can not effectively function.

Yes when such stupid stunts shut down transportation and tie up law enforcement it makes it much more difficult to function effectively and can cost lots of money. They idiots should pay dearly for it.

We should learn a lesson from this, and that should be to not freak out at every little thing.

No, the lesson is don't do stupid things or you might end up in jail.


The stupidity of such an act aside,

You cannot simply put it aside.

no one was ever in any real danger

We don't know, did any police calls get delayed because resources were tied up? Did anyone not get to a hospital because of the traffic jams. What about the massive inconvenience and cost to both the government and to private business due to lost time.

and the "crimes" they are charged with are nothing huge.

Lucky for them, so let's make sure they get the toughest sentence and have to pay restitution. Especially since they showed no remorse at all yesterday.

They should be given a light sentence since there was never any harm nor was their attempt any sort of act to purposefully inspire a panic.

Throw the book at them so people like you will learn we aren't going to put up with such idiocy.
 
We can not allow fear to overrule rationality. When we do this, we give ourselves to all sorts of panics. Under that condition, we can not effectively function. We should learn a lesson from this, and that should be to not freak out at every little thing. The stupidity of such an act aside, no one was ever in any real danger and the "crimes" they are charged with are nothing huge. They should be given a light sentence since there was never any harm nor was their attempt any sort of act to purposefully inspire a panic.

Where was the overruling of rationality? Where was the panic? I think this was a great lesson. I didn't see anyone 'freak out'. I saw the authorities take caution and investigate. I did see a lot of people's lives disrupted and the Turner Corp. claiming they realize it was a stupid thing to do in this day and age.
 
The reaction of those charged with protecting us was perfectly rational. Planting these devices in the exact same locations terrorist might plant explosives was irrational and stupid.

Coincidental at best. First off, they placed them all over the place, not just places "terrorists might plant explosives". Secondly, it was a friggin' Lite Bright, nothing else. No matter what sort of fear one may wish to drum up from this event, the facts should not be excluded. Third, the type of explosives needed to take down a bridge are powerful shaped charges, not some stupid picture of a Mooninite. Those in charge over reacted, those in charge dedicated their resources towards something a little research would have proven harmless. I expect elected officials and those charged with protecting the peace of the public to not go off half cocked at every little thing. I damned well demand rational, research, and an understanding of the public they are trying to protect. Those in charge showed none of this, the entire episode blew up because they screwed up, not because some jerk put up a few Lite Brights around town.

When people do stupid stunts like this it can cause all sorts of panic.

And when the government doesn't act in a calm and rational manner, they can cause these sorts of panics amplified above that which the individual could have done.

Yes when such stupid stunts shut down transportation and tie up law enforcement it makes it much more difficult to function effectively and can cost lots of money. They idiots should pay dearly for it.

Those in charge knew of the costs and made the choice. They went in without all the information and without proper investigation. They tied up their own resources when they made that choice.

No, the lesson is don't do stupid things or you might end up in jail.

There is no law against stupidity. If you are not infringing upon the rights of others than you are free to do as you wish

You cannot simply put it aside.

You can if it had nothing to do with the reality of the situation. What they did may, in your mind, be stupid. But what they did endangered no one, involved no illegal bombs or substances, and infringed upon no one's rights.

We don't know, did any police calls get delayed because resources were tied up? Did anyone not get to a hospital because of the traffic jams. What about the massive inconvenience and cost to both the government and to private business due to lost time.

Then maybe the city needs to learn to manage its resources better and figure out how to be better prepared.

Lucky for them, so let's make sure they get the toughest sentence and have to pay restitution. Especially since they showed no remorse at all yesterday.

I don't care if they were sorry or not. They didn't do anything inherently wrong and just because they made an entire city government look like a bunch of retarded monkeys doesn't mean we should throw them in jail because some city officials have egg on their face.

Throw the book at them so people like you will learn we aren't going to put up with such idiocy.

We can not start running around throwing people in jail whom did nothing wrong just because city officials were not rational enough to correctly handle a problem. 9 other cities handled it fine and without incident, only 1 screwed up and pissed themselves. This is a failure of the city and it's officials, the blame falls onto them.
 
Ikari said, “Everything will come out in the wash in the end, it's pretty trivial case.’

Trivial to whom? To those that were scared to death because a terrorist attack just might have happened. You know this is what really gets me. People like you who just think anyone can do anything to anyone they want. Its trivial no need to get upset.

Like that blonde buggy eyed bimbo runaway bride who caused so much worry for everyone. The police spent days worrying about her. People all over the city and country giving up everything to look for her. And now she is sensationalized........


I mean what is important anymore to some people? Why shouldn’t these two guys be held accountable for what they did? Turner is taking responsibility.


“They really did nothing wrong.”


God Help us. That is why they were arrested and had to post bond right? How many people who do nothing have to do that?


Jallman said, “So wait...since when did it become a crime not to answer the press's questions? How is not answering a reporter any show of disrespect for authority? If anything, the reporters were idiots for showing what was an obvious refusal to answer their questions....as their lawyer instructed them to do.”


They have every right not to answer, that wasn’t my point. It was the way in which they conducted themselves and acted like they did not care if they harmed anyone, however silly their act might have been. IMO they were repulsive. You know everyone has to act like a little immature kid now a days don’t they? Like I said they probably want shows on television and this is a way to get them.

No one cares anymore. They are out for themselves and they don’t care about what others think.


“Turner Broadcasting System Inc. apologized Friday for a security scare that had Boston bomb squads checking out electronic signs that were part of a nationwide marketing campaign for its subsidiary Cartoon Network.”
“What we did is inadvertently cause a great American city to deal with the unintended impact of this marketing campaign. For this, we are deeply sorry," Kent said.”

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/02/boston.scare.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


Even the company apologized and are trying to make amends. Yet those two guys thought it was a joke.
 
Re: Boston authorities are total frickin' idiots

That they ended up not being bombs does not mitigate what they did. It was reasonable to assume, looking at them from a distance, that they could be bombs. They had to be treated as as such.

So how come none of the OTHER cities in which these were placed acted so stupidly?

These things were placed in TEN other cities, yet none of them overreacted so idiotically. Guess it must be something in the water in Boston...
 
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