vauge said:I would have tremendous issues if it were a school that my child attended.
Pro gay meaning demanding King & King type books in the library or demanding like you are suggesting - gay clubs or gay classes. That stuff is just silly. Not much different than black only clubs or white only clubs. What purpose do they serve? Promotion of hate...
Libertarian said:I would have a propblem with any book that promotoes homosexual couples, pedophile couples, zoophile couples, coprophile couples por necrophiel couples as equivalent to heterosexual couples.
The purpose of all these books is political in nature as they are an attempt to equate homosexual partners as normal, acceptable and equivalent...when they are are just not. I am I alone shall decide the values, morality, and judgement that my children shall be taught, and I refuse to leave it to the hands of the government and especially homosexual activists with an agenda to attempt to indoctrinate my children with their perverse values.
vauge said:Unfortunatly, you are correct.
Yes, I would indeed say something (if they were kissing). Even more so if my child was with me. Does it HURT me? Of course not. Am I allowed to request them to stop such activities. You missed the part about teenagers that are heterosexual would get my same response. Older couples (heterosexual) would recieve the same attention from me if they were crossing the line as well. I have been applauded for saying such things in public before.
vauge said:I have failed to see the relivance. I didn't say that I would prohibit anyone from moving to my neighborhood. Sexual offenders is another topic, and I do have significant issues with them living next to me.
vauge said:The point is relationships with the public needs to have a thought process. Would you agree that if a homosexual couple moves into a very conservative neighborhood then there will be challenges to that couple?
vauge said:If not, you do not understand human nature. I highly doubt my neighborhood would have issues with a homosexual couple living here, but there would be quite a bit of issues if that couple were involved in the PTA and being activists toward allowing pro gay activities in school.
Libertarian said:For the same reason if a teen was going down the route of alcohol or drug abuse, no decent parent would hesitate to engage in an intervention program out of love for their children.
Libertarian said:Homosexual agenda extremists see the value of recruiting new fodder into the lifestle which is why they have so successfully done and continue to try to remove parental rights and force indoctrination of kids in public schools into the lifestyle.
maybe it is homosexuals who should "homeschool their own kids", if they could actually reproduce via homosexual sex that is....
Remember, when these homosexuals try to insinuate themselves and their agenda into public schools, they always do so as quietly as possible....this follows a tactic they have strategized called "keeping the camels ugly head in the tent"
GottaHurt said:Precisely.
The topic of this thread is in regard to a 16 year old young man. NOT an emancipated young man. The parents have every right to teach and instill their beliefs into their own child(ren).
The whole gay lifestyle issue, and the agenda they're pushing, has some very disturbing ideas and tactics.
What consenting adults do in the privacy of their home, between themselves, is their business.
Once they step out into the public domain, it becomes a different story.Their actions aren't just affecting themselves anymore, they're affecting the rest of the population as well.Their actions have every right to fall under scrutiny.
This scrutiny has lead many gay life-stylers to remain in the closet. It doesn't surprise me that they creep around, and hide amongst the general population, fearing detection.This is not normal behavior.
They can't gain public support, so they try and circumvent the constitution, by finding judges, sympathetic to their cause, to overstep their judicial powers and inflict their own personal agendas on the rest of the population.
The most disturbing, and disgusting tactic, is going after the children.They can't make valid arguments against adults, so they use the 1st amendment to foist their agenda into the children's sections of our public libraries.
Case in point:Heather has two mommies , a perfect example of the word fallacy, if there every is one.It's impossible for Heather to have two mommies. Heather can have a biological mommy, a surrogate mommy, she can have an adoptive mommy, a step mommy, a foster mommy, but she can't
have two mommies.I'm sure they'll be some ad nauseum arguments made, so in plain English, one child cannot pass through two separate birth canals, from two separate women, simultaneously.
Banning books isn't what is being suggested here.To put this book in the children sections of public libraries, is what is being questioned.
An alternative lifestyle section in the public library, would give everybody the freedom of choice, without censorship.
I find it pathetic, to sink so low, to target children with their gay lifestyle agenda.To me, the tolerance that the gay life-stylers preach, is only to be reserved for them.
Where did I say that? I didn't, my opposition is to the gay life-stylers agenda.crimson372 said:Why do you see gay as bad?
Heterosexuality isn't the issue, homosexuality is.crimson372 said:...surely you and your straight agendas are brought to children everyday through movies and everything trying to convince children that this is right and this is the path to take.
Interesting, that you think that libraries discriminate by having genres.crimson372 said:I hate when people consider gay as a genre and put every book with even a bit reference to someone gay, into a gay section.
But this I can't argue about because genres are pretty much meant to discriminate. (they do have a black authors section, although if I ever got published I would dread them grouping me like that.)
GottaHurt said:Where did I say that? I didn't, my opposition is to the gay life-stylers agenda.
GottaHurt said:Heterosexuality isn't the issue, homosexuality is.
GottaHurt said:Interesting, that you think that libraries discriminate by having genres.
I see it as an easy and efficient way to locate the materials I'm looking for.
You don't have to be sorry. I can understand and respect the fact that your support groups take precedent over your education.JustineCredible said:I'm sorry, I must have missed that day of class.
Confused about your own lifestyle? Seems to be par for the course.JustineCredible said:What again is a gay life-styler let alone a gay lifestyle?
You see it your way, I see it mine.JustineCredible said:No, actually SEXUALITY is the issue and the perspective therin.
Superb, another interpretation of someone else's words.JustineCredible said:Well yes, in fact it is, but I believe the term "discriminate" was being used in a broader sense.
Now, you're not even debating you're just trying and failing to insult her.GottaHurt said:You don't have to be sorry. I can understand and respect the fact that your support groups take precedent over your education.
Confused about your own lifestyle? Seems to be par for the course.
JustineCredible said:Well yes, in fact it is, but I believe the term "discriminate" was being used in a broader sense.
Actually I did mean it in a broader sense. so it's not another interpretation it is the interpretation.GottaHurt said:Superb, another interpretation of someone else's words.
No, I was answering her questions.And where is it written that a post must contain a debate?crimson372 said:Now, you're not even debating you're just trying and failing to insult her.
I appreciate you taking the time to clear that up, Thank You.crimson372 said:Actually I did mean it in a broader sense. so it's not another interpretation it is the interpretation.
GottaHurt said:You don't have to be sorry. I can understand and respect the fact that your support groups take precedent over your education.
what again is a gay life-styler let alone a gay lifestyle?
GottaHurt said:Confused about your own lifestyle? Seems to be par for the course.
GottaHurt said:You see it your way, I see it mine.
GottaHurt said:Superb, another interpretation of someone else's words.
JustineCredible said::rofl WOW so now there's a class for gay-bahsing :2nobashin and hate mongering? Is that a credit course or just personal enrichment?
But, seriously: You attempt to ignore the actual MEAT of the question doesn't really suprise me, it's a typical troll thing to do.
So, if you don't mind, try answering it insted of lampooning.
Post #89JustineCredible said::What again is a gay life-styler let alone a gay lifestyle?
JustineCredible said::Trying to equate my confussion of your misrepresentation of the term "lifestyle" and my own actual LIFE is only in your mind.
Care to actually asnwer it?
AGAIN, show me where I've said any of these things.JustineCredible said::You try to justify denying citizens their rights with your hate and fear...all the while in an attempt to dehumanize and denegrate homosexuals.
See above response^^^^JustineCredible said::If you're going to insist gays are so bad, you must be prepaired for the comparrisons.
*Hint* I already thanked him for responding and clearing it up :2wave:JustineCredible said::Smashing, yet another attempt to distract through your ignorance.
*hint* crimson admitted his usage of the word to have been the broader definition. Just deal with it.
WOW so now there's a class for gay-bahsing and hate mongering? Is that a credit course or just personal enrichment?
Libertarian said:Ah, the Homosexual agenda victim tactic #2:
Libertarian said:Ah, the Homosexual agenda victim tactic #2:
[2] PORTRAY GAYS AS VICTIMS, NOT AS AGGRESSIVE CHALLENGERS.
In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector. If gays are presented, instead, as a strong and prideful tribe promoting a rigidly nonconformist and deviant lifestyle, they are more likely to be seen as a public menace that justifies resistance and oppression. For that reason, we must forego the temptation to strut our "gay pride" publicly when it conflicts with the Gay Victim image. And we must walk the fine line between impressing straights with our great numbers, on the one hand, and sparking their hostile paranoia-"They are all around us!"--on the other.
A media campaign to promote the Gay Victim image should make use of symbols which reduce the mainstream's sense of threat, which lower it's guard, and which enhance the plausibility of victimization. In practical terms, this means that jaunty mustachioed musclemen would keep very low profile in gay commercials and other public presentations, while sympathetic figures of nice young people, old people, and attractive women would be featured. (It almost goes without saying that groups on the farthest margin of acceptability such as NAMBLA, must play no part at all in such a campaign: suspected child-molesters will never look like victims.)
8. Copyrighted Material -All material posted from copyrighted material MUST contain a link to the original work. Proper format is to post the relivant quote and then link to the article for the rest. Please do not post entire articles.
Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 107 http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html
If you can spot a thread that i've participated in that i haven't demanding sources to be cited then show me. I apply the rules fairly and you've been warned about this behavior before.Libertarian said:Since your demand seems highly partisan and suspect, especially since I have previously alluded to the author names who wrote the homosexual agenda playbook, here's your link.....make sure you demand the same EVERY time homosexual political extremists quote any source, lest the partisanship becomes obvious.
I will make sure I post a photo every time too, it's your server space
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452264987/104-2840696-5359943?v=glance
He did it again. Read post #83. I was really looking forward to your response to that.Libertarian said:Ah, the Homosexual agenda victim tactic #2:
[2] PORTRAY GAYS AS VICTIMS, NOT AS AGGRESSIVE CHALLENGERS.
In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector. If gays are presented, instead, as a strong and prideful tribe promoting a rigidly nonconformist and deviant lifestyle, they are more likely to be seen as a public menace that justifies resistance and oppression. For that reason, we must forego the temptation to strut our "gay pride" publicly when it conflicts with the Gay Victim image. And we must walk the fine line between impressing straights with our great numbers, on the one hand, and sparking their hostile paranoia-"They are all around us!"--on the other.
A media campaign to promote the Gay Victim image should make use of symbols which reduce the mainstream's sense of threat, which lower it's guard, and which enhance the plausibility of victimization. In practical terms, this means that jaunty mustachioed musclemen would keep very low profile in gay commercials and other public presentations, while sympathetic figures of nice young people, old people, and attractive women would be featured. (It almost goes without saying that groups on the farthest margin of acceptability such as NAMBLA, must play no part at all in such a campaign: suspected child-molesters will never look like victims.)
What 16 year old girl?HeteroDefenseLeague said:In trying to excuse the frequent homosexual pedohile behaviors they statistically are far more likely to engage in, homophiles try to redefine homosexual behavior as sex bewtween two consenting adults, their argument that an adult male having sex with an underage boy is not engaging in same sex sex, the very definition of homosexuality.
Since that is a frequent homosexual pedophile protection term, I submit that this 16 year old girl could not have been a 16 year old homosexual, because she can't consent, since "homosexuality is about two consenting adults" as the homosexual pedophile apologists claim.
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