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‘We’re citizens!’: Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren’t suspects

Lol, what's funny about the case @VySky pointed to is that the FBI raid happened during Trump's last term. So maybe it does happen more often when Trump is president?
 
devildavid said:
Where do you dig up such phony stories?
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you should know by now to never question .... I always have links, I don't lie and make stuff up like others do



www.dailymail.co.uk

Mob attacks serial cat killer's home before realizing their mistake

A violent group of angry California residents decided to take it upon themselves to track down an alleged serial cat killer and attack his home Sunday night.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

www.the-independent.com

Angry mob surrounds home of alleged serial cat killer. They got the wrong house

Alejandro Oliveros Acosta is accused of killing ‘a lot’ of cats in Santa Ana, California
www.the-independent.com www.the-independent.com

www.foxla.com

Vigil turns violent outside Santa Ana home believed to be connected to alleged cat serial killer

Alejandro Oliveros Acosta allegedly confessed to the crimes. He was arrested on Thursday then released on bail.
www.foxla.com www.foxla.com
 
Jezcoe said:
Don’t we all agree that the Government enforcing laws should be held to a higher standard than an angry mob?
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mistakes have always happened

a short little snip of examples under Biden's presidency ... mistakes by authorities, Govt making mistakes

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stealthycat said:
mistakes have always happened

a short little snip of examples under Biden's presidency ... mistakes by authorities, Govt making mistakes

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You think I am going to defend the government ****ing up just because it was Biden?

This isn’t a team sport.

If we all aren’t willing to call out the government obviously ****ing up and violating people’s rights it isn’t going to get better.

The only reason law enforcement gets away with being lazy incompetent boobs is because we allow them.

Be better
 
noonereal said:
QFT

May I use this in the future?
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But of course. Although, I suspect the moment that happens maga is dead. The nature of maga is that it must be heartless toward perceived 'enemies.'
 
Integrityrespec said:
Enabling someone to do wrong is not having a heart. The left chooses to ignore the law and claim they are being kind, they are enabling wrong doing. That's not kindness.
I disciplined by children when they needed it, it wasn't because I didn't have a heart. It was because I love them and care about them and want to understand right from wrong.
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There is the law and there is right and wrong. We try to make them the same but it doesn't always happen. When our laws are wrong we have the collective ability to correct them. That's why we have a legislative body. It is not right that the power of big greedy money drives our lawmaking. That's a wrong that needs to be corrected. Most people have given up on that notion and accepted the situation as hopeless. That is wrong in itself. We can get the big money out of government if we are determined enough. The problem is that big money has been spent to convince people the situation is hopeless. That is a daunting obstacle, but surmountable in time. The effort is already underway. It is expected to take decades, but since there is no other way, the process will have to proceed at it's own pace. The goal is a truly representative government of the people, not big money.

That will change everything. Our political climate, the nature of the major parties. Complete reset of our politics.
 
Jezcoe said:
You think I am going to defend the government ****ing up just because it was Biden?

This isn’t a team sport.

If we all aren’t willing to call out the government obviously ****ing up and violating people’s rights it isn’t going to get better.

The only reason law enforcement gets away with being lazy incompetent boobs is because we allow them.

Be better
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but that's the kicker

everything liberals are calling right now? they didn't call it with Biden

hell we can go back to Elian Gonzalez right?

the core problem is ILLEGALLY HERE PEOPLE - if we had none of them, ALL of these issues wouldn't be


we need a country with no illegally here people - that solves all of this
 
Peacenik said:
But of course. Although, I suspect the moment that happens maga is dead. The nature of maga is that it must be heartless toward perceived 'enemies.'
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I just updated my signature to this.
 
stealthycat said:
but that's the kicker

everything liberals are calling right now? they didn't call it with Biden

hell we can go back to Elian Gonzalez right?

the core problem is ILLEGALLY HERE PEOPLE - if we had none of them, ALL of these issues wouldn't be


we need a country with no illegally here people - that solves all of this
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My guess is you really belive the brown man is the devil in spite of them being far harder working and than MAGA and much more respect of laws.
 
stealthycat said:
but that's the kicker

everything liberals are calling right now? they didn't call it with Biden
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Who are these “liberals”?

Lazily doing a search where municipalities ****ed up to excuse Federal officers ****ing up is just plain stupid.

Why excuse this? Why not simply call it out as being wrong? It is literally the least one can do.


stealthycat said:
hell we can go back to Elian Gonzalez right?
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There was a whole court battle about Gonzalez. I remember. It was wild to see how it played out in certain conservative circles.

I do agree with them though that sending in fully armored officers with semi automatic rifles drawn is something that authoritarian governments do.
stealthycat said:
the core problem is ILLEGALLY HERE PEOPLE - if we had none of them, ALL of these issues wouldn't be
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Because you feel that way does not give the government the space to violate people’s rights.

Why does anyone want to give the government the right to knock down the wrong person’s door and seize their stuff when they won’t even take the simple steps of confirming that the people that they are actually looking for still live there?

That is lazy incompetence.

Don’t excuse it.
stealthycat said:
we need a country with no illegally here people - that solves all of this
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We need a unicorn in every pot also.
 
ataraxia said:
Donald Trump has grown up to be a 34-count convicted felon and rapist with no manners, respect, or discipline. His mama should have slapped him upside the head and taught him some basic manners, respect, and discipline when she had the chance. His parents gave up and outsourced the job to some military academy- which obviously also failed. Now the whole world has to suffer the consequences.
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Well, moving is always an option if you don't like it here. I've heard a lot of democrats say they were going to do exactly that, but then as usual, democrats lie.
 
noonereal said:
My guess is you really belive the brown man is the devil in spite of them being far harder working and than MAGA and much more respect of laws.
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That's another lie. It's illegal to be here if you didn't follow the US immigration law, color has nothing to do with it. Is so happens that Biden and the democrats facilitated the illegal entry of millions of brown people so a lot of the deportations, arrests and crimes committed by illegals have been by brown people. Like most, I don't give a damn what color a person is. If they are not here legally, get the hell out and try by our legal means. As far as respecting our law. They committed a crime when they illegally came here, it's a federal crime punishable by deportation and/or imprisonment. Then you have the many other crimes committed by these illegal immigrants who many happen to be brown. Murder, rape, child trafficking, drug trafficking, theft, assault, but hey they are respecting our laws the whole way. BULLSHIT. And if you think the majority of Americans believe you statement then you are paying attention to what the majority are saying.
 
ClaraD said:
It was a mistake to seize their electronics, cell phones and money even after knowing they had the wrong family? That seems like more than a mistake.
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I'm not sure when they knew they (on the scene law enforcement) had the wrong family. But it was a total blunder. I hope they sue the person that supervised this. And that person or people should be removed from their jobs. Some times these become lethal mistakes.
 
L88 said:
I'm not sure when they knew they (on the scene law enforcement) had the wrong family. But it was a total blunder. I hope they sue the person that supervised this. And that person or people should be removed from their jobs. Some times these become lethal mistakes.
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They knew pretty much immediately after breaking into the home
 
Jezcoe said:
Who are these “liberals”?
Lazily doing a search where municipalities ****ed up to excuse Federal officers ****ing up is just plain stupid.
Why excuse this? Why not simply call it out as being wrong? It is literally the least one can do.
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if it was fair and equal yes - but its not

right now, just about every hate article tied to Trump is just that - hate

Deportations? Biden did far more and no proof he did them with how liberals want them
UPS layoff? they laid off more under Biden
traumatized families from deportations? way more under Biden because there were way way more deportations

liberals only get loud and squeaky one direction is my experience

Jezcoe said:
There was a whole court battle about Gonzalez. I remember. It was wild to see how it played out in certain conservative circles.
I do agree with them though that sending in fully armored officers with semi automatic rifles drawn is something that authoritarian governments do.
Because you feel that way does not give the government the space to violate people’s rights.
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don't come to the USA illegally - every problem tied to illegally here people would go away

Jezcoe said:
Why does anyone want to give the government the right to knock down the wrong person’s door and seize their stuff when they won’t even take the simple steps of confirming that the people that they are actually looking for still live there?
That is lazy incompetence.
Don’t excuse it.
We need a unicorn in every pot also.
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I don't disagree - however mistakes DO happen, its unavoidable
 
stealthycat said:
if it was fair and equal yes - but its not
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So… does that make the government obviously ****ing up because of lazy incompetence okay in this instance?

I am unsure as to what the argument actually is here.

Instead of arguing something that we all know is wrong… isn’t it just easier to say that the government obviously ****ed up… these people’s rights were violated because they couldn’t take the time to check who actually lived in the house and that this fervor to crack down as hard as possible is spilling out into violating rights?

Because this isn’t going to stop. They aren’t going to get any more competent or do due diligence if the response from the freedom loving base is “oh well… illegals”.
 
Jezcoe said:
So… does that make the government obviously ****ing up because of lazy incompetence okay in this instance?
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never

go back - how many threads on the Govt ***ing things up when Joe-God was POTUS? not many - liberals didn't care

Jezcoe said:
I am unsure as to what the argument actually is here.
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Trump hate is the argument and calling things now what wasn't called during Biden years

Jezcoe said:
Instead of arguing something that we all know is wrong… isn’t it just easier to say that the government obviously ****ed up… these people’s rights were violated because they couldn’t take the time to check who actually lived in the house and that this fervor to crack down as hard as possible is spilling out into violating rights?

Because this isn’t going to stop. They aren’t going to get any more competent or do due diligence if the response from the freedom loving base is “oh well… illegals”.
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they're illegally here - they need to go

I have little sympathy for them taking advantage of the USA and abusing our system
 
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