‘Pure business’ at Biden-Putin summit: No hugs, no brickbats

[j-mac]

GENEVA (AP) — President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin concluded their summit on Wednesday with an agreement to return their nations’ ambassadors to their posts in Washington and Moscow and a plan to begin work toward replacing the last remaining treaty between the two countries limiting nuclear weapons.

But the two leaders offered starkly different views on difficult simmering issues including cyber and ransomware attacks originating from Russia.

'Practical work' summit for Biden, Putin: No punches or hugs

GENEVA (AP) — U.S. President Joe Biden and Russia’s Vladimir Putin exchanged cordial words and plotted modest steps on arms control and diplomacy but emerged from their much-anticipated Swiss summit Wednesday largely where they started -- with deep differences on human rights, cyberattacks...

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So the great summit was a hugh nothing burger...At one point Biden said he gave Putin a list of things that he wanted "off limits" for cyberattack...Are you kidding me? Does that mean that they can attack anything else?

What a weak showing...

 

[d0gbreath]

I've never heard of a brickbat. Biden leaned on Putin. Win for the USA!

 

[justabubba]

So the great summit was a hugh nothing burger...At one point Biden said he gave Putin a list of things that he wanted "off limits" for cyberattack...Are you kidding me? Does that mean that they can attack anything else?

What a weak showing...

Translation: Putin did not surrender the Russian sovereignty to Biden. Thus, it can only be concluded that Biden lost this diplomatic encounter

 

[MamboDervish]

So the great summit was a hugh nothing burger...

So . . . I guess you must have read a different article than the one you posted??

 

[Phys251]

So the great summit was a hugh nothing burger...At one point Biden said he gave Putin a list of things that he wanted "off limits" for cyberattack...Are you kidding me? Does that mean that they can attack anything else?

What a weak showing...

Reality: President Biden refuses to capitulate to our adversary.

j-mac: Our President is a bad President for refusing to capitulate to our adversary.

 

[MamboDervish]

Translation: Putin did not surrender the Russian sovereignty to Biden. Thus, it can only be concluded that Biden lost this diplomatic encounter

Indeed. I guess Trump preforming anilingus on Putin was considered " a strong showing" by comparison.

 

[Helix]

fly home and pass voting rights legislation before the Republicans make it impossible to win.

 

[jotathought]

Reality: President Biden refuses to capitulate to our adversary.

j-mac: Our President is a bad President for refusing to capitulate to our adversary.

Reality: Putin's greatest dream is to reunite the Soviet Union as a super power against the United States, and Biden brought a list of demands Putin will ignore. In addition, Biden is dropping sanctions on Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline while discouraging energy production in the United States to offset costs.

 

[Mycroft]

fly home and pass voting rights legislation before the Republicans make it impossible to win.

That legislation was DOA as soon as Nancy proposed it.

 

[Mycroft]

So the great summit was a hugh nothing burger...At one point Biden said he gave Putin a list of things that he wanted "off limits" for cyberattack...Are you kidding me? Does that mean that they can attack anything else?

What a weak showing...

It was a waste of time.

 

[JANFU]

I've never heard of a brickbat. Biden leaned on Putin. Win for the USA!

Biden laid it out clearly before they met. He did not personally attack Putin before the meet
It was clear to me Biden was giving Putin respect on the international stage. Something Russia always craves
Ambassadors will return
The tit for tat expulsions will be significantly reduced/ended- also increased local staff will be permitted at US facilities in Russia

There are new red lines, cyber on critical infrastructure need to be, and long term will be addressed

New talks on Nukes/new weapons will also be fleshed out

Only an idiot wants relations with Russia to worsen.

So IMHO we will see things announced in the next 3-9 months. After the Russian Parliamentary elections, in Sept.

 

[j-mac]

Reality: President Biden refuses to capitulate to our adversary.

j-mac: Our President is a bad President for refusing to capitulate to our adversary.

Don't do that Phys, you're better than that juvinile crap aren't you?

 

[Helix]

That legislation was DOA as soon as Nancy proposed it.

in what way?

 

[j-mac]

fly home and pass voting rights legislation before the Republicans make it impossible to win.

You mean before Demo's loose big in the midterms don't ya?

 

[TomFitz]

That legislation was DOA as soon as Nancy proposed it.

Can’t have the “wrong” people voting.

 

[Helix]

You mean before Demo's loose big in the midterms don't ya?

Demo is loose what?

 

[TomFitz]

It was a waste of time.

Spoken like a flat earth isolationist.

 

[Chomsky]

So the great summit was a hugh nothing burger...At one point Biden said he gave Putin a list of things that he wanted "off limits" for cyberattack...Are you kidding me? Does that mean that they can attack anything else?

What a weak showing...

Sounds like;

1] You have overly optimistic expectations

or,

You don't have the patience to see what transpires over time

Do you have an idea, which it is?

 

[Chomsky]

It was a waste of time.

How can a several hours try, be a 'waste of time'?

We had a former President spend weeks with NK's Kim, to no avail!

 

[JANFU]

Indeed. I guess Trump preforming anilingus on Putin was considered " a strong showing" by comparison.

Deep throat was different under Nixon.
And that was bad

 

[j-mac]

Demo is loose what?

Demo's, Democrats....What aren't you understanding?

 

[MaryP]

Biden laid it out clearly before they met. He did not personally attack Putin before the meet
It was clear to me Biden was giving Putin respect on the international stage. Something Russia always craves
Ambassadors will return
The tit for tat expulsions will be significantly reduced/ended- also increased local staff will be permitted at US facilities in Russia

There are new red lines, cyber on critical infrastructure need to be, and long term will be addressed

New talks on Nukes/new weapons will also be fleshed out

Only an idiot wants relations with Russia to worsen.

So IMHO we will see things aed line by as been drnnounced in the next 3-9 months. After the Russian Parliamentary elections, in Sept.

I'm glad ambassadors will return and that a red line has been drawn on cyber attacks. Nuclear treaties are always a good thing.

Of course Putin isn't going to admit he had anything to do with the cyber attacks. Are people crazy? But he's not deaf, either. Hopefully, President Biden had a little something in there to make Russia think twice about pulling it again.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Don't do that Phys, you're better than that juvinile crap aren't you?

Better than what?

We all know you don’t care what happens during any of this…

You prefer traitor presidents that undermine your own country and democracy to get the libs.

We don’t expect to get a fair assessment of the Biden meeting from you.

 

[j-mac]

How can a several hours try, be a 'waste of time'?

We had a former President spend weeks with NK's Kim, to no avail!

Well, the President sure had some tough talk before the summit didn't he?

Told the troops in England, "I'll tell Putin, what I want Putin to know"... oooooh scary....

Instead Biden emerges from the meeting giving Puting the first presser, ceeding the upper hand in what happened in there.

Asked Putin pretty please don't cyberattack these 16 areas....Ok sure...

Officially dropped sanctions on Nord Stream2, while killing our energy sector...

Got NOTHING on the dissedent he's holding.

I'd call that less than nothing....

As opposed to all of the tough talk that liberals do about Russia....Liberals should be like "What the hell?...."

 

[j-mac]

I'm glad ambassadors will return and that a red line has been drawn on cyber attacks. Nuclear treaties are always a good thing.

Of course Putin isn't going to admit he had anything to do with the cyber attacks. Are people crazy? But he's not deaf, either. Hopefully, President Biden had a little something in there to make Russia think twice about pulling it again.

Oh? Red lines? What Red lines? What will be the punishment if crossed? Another "Hey, stop that?"