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Zohran Mamdani's Popularity

To what do you attribute Zohran Mamdani's popularity?

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coyote505 said:
In the case of Palestinians, who are difficult to separate from Israelis genetically, their problem is their wacko beliefs. Same for New Yorkers.
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It's not the open air prison or being policed 24 hours a day by ethnonationalists. It's because a once nearly Turkish and mild form of Islam - itself no more problematic than any other Abrahamic creed - something something mumble splutter.
 
aociswundumho said:
He's smart, likeable, and has a sort of contagious enthusiasm. His platform is the same commie crap that's been tried countless times - free this, free that, don't worry about how it will be paid for, the good intentions are enough. Many voters fall for it unfortunately.

In my opinion, he's made a huge political error by being so specific about what he wants to do.
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Indeed. The only people who should ever get anything for free are the rich.
 
reinaert said:
It's not the open air prison or being policed 24 hours a day by ethnonationalists. It's because a once nearly Turkish and mild form of Islam - itself no more problematic than any other Abrahamic creed - something something mumble splutter.
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But they don't agree with @coyote505, so they aren't capable of self government. Like New York.
 
Questerr said:
Indeed. The only people who should ever get anything for free are the rich.
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The problem is that nothing is free. So it comes down to which is the best way to produce stuff at the lowest cost. I'll give you a hint, it ain't socialism.
 
aociswundumho said:
The problem is that nothing is free. So it comes down to which is the best way to produce stuff at the lowest cost. I'll give you a hint, it ain't socialism.
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Sure it is. A cooperative that doesn’t need to deliver maximized profits to a parasitic capitalist class will have lower costs.
 
aociswundumho said:
The problem is that nothing is free. So it comes down to which is the best way to produce stuff at the lowest cost. I'll give you a hint, it ain't socialism.
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Eh, we tried your way and decided we didn’t like it.

Turns out those company towns and company currency and stuff weren’t all that great.
 
aociswundumho said:
The problem is that nothing is free. So it comes down to which is the best way to produce stuff at the lowest cost. I'll give you a hint, it ain't socialism.
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It's like you really, really, really do believe the silly little truism nothing is free is some kind of profound truth you have to evangelize to others.

You know who knows that nothing is free? The hourly workers grinding it out for shit employers, always falling behind, always having to go without something, as they watch people who inherited luxury break the ****ing world.
 
How about he's left-wing politician that's not in his 70s?
 
Questerr said:
Sure it is. A cooperative that doesn’t need to deliver maximized profits to a parasitic capitalist class will have lower costs.
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If co-ops are so wonderful, why are they so rare?

Go read the myth of mondragon, you can find it online for free.
 
reinaert said:
It's like you really, really, really do believe the silly little truism nothing is free is some kind of profound truth you have to evangelize to others.
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Mamdani is promising free child care, is he not? He's promising free bus rides, is he not?

Go walk up to a guy waiting at a bus stop and ask him if he would prefer it if the bus didn't charge a fare.
 
aociswundumho said:
Mamdani is promising free child care, is he not? He's promising free bus rides, is he not?
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No one thinks they're free. That's your assertion because you are locked in an ideological Faraday cage.

Everyone using that child care will know it's subsidized.
aociswundumho said:
Go walk up to a guy waiting at a bus stop and ask him if he would prefer it if the bus didn't charge a fare.
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Not paying the fare out of pocket is not the same as not knowing it is getting paid elsewhere.

It's not cute that you think everyone else is too stupid to understand subsidized.
 
Questerr said:
Because our entire economy assumes privately owned capital. It's what all financing is built around.
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I got some bad news for you: a co-op run by a group of people seeking profits in a market economy is a privately owned, capitalist enterprise.
 
Questerr said:
No, it means the WORKERS own the enterprise.
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Again, wrong. It's not socialism if it's a private firm seeking profits in a market economy. All of that is anti-socialism. Doesn't matter if it's employee-owned.
 
aociswundumho said:
Again, wrong. It's not socialism if it's a private firm seeking profits in a market economy. All of that is anti-socialism. Doesn't matter if it's employee-owned.
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A communally owned company is not private. No one privately owns the capital.
 
BirdinHand said:
Eh, we tried your way and decided we didn’t like it.

Turns out those company towns and company currency and stuff weren’t all that great.
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Between Socialism and Robber Baron capitalism is a lot of space. Socialism works until you run out of other people's money. A former Communist said "Socialism only works at the point of a gun, and even then only for a limited time". She should know. She was part of the Gorbachev regime.
 
aociswundumho said:
He's smart, likeable, and has a sort of contagious enthusiasm. His platform is the same commie crap that's been tried countless times - free this, free that, don't worry about how it will be paid for, the good intentions are enough.
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We heard the felon's promises without being told how they are achievable
aociswundumho said:
Many voters fall for it unfortunately.
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Oh yes, voters fall for stuff
aociswundumho said:
In my opinion, he's made a huge political error by being so specific about what he wants to do.
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Like ending the Ukraine/Russia war on day one?
 
redbeer said:
Set up to win in the primaries running against Cuomo, for even the democrats will not vote for someone who put Covid infected patients in with the elderly. Now with the incumbent dropping out, it's being handed to him by the powers which be.
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who are those?
redbeer said:
This is not an honest run for the Mayor of NYC, and in the heavily blue city is attempting to make it look like a free and fair election, but it is nothing of the sort.
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Please tell us more
redbeer said:
Get ready for even higher taxes and nonsensical, fiscally insane policies which will cause the city to continue its downward spiral.
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tax increases on corporations and those earning above $1 million annually? What's wrong with that?
 
redbeer said:
Set up to win in the primaries running against Cuomo, for even the democrats will not vote for someone who put Covid infected patients in with the elderly. Now with the incumbent dropping out, it's being handed to him by the powers which be.

This is not an honest run for the Mayor of NYC, and in the heavily blue city is attempting to make it look like a free and fair election, but it is nothing of the sort. Get ready for even higher taxes and nonsensical, fiscally insane policies which will cause the city to continue its downward spiral.
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I agree.

Mamdani is an openly declared Socialist, although he is running on the Democrat ticket. He's making the same promises that Brandon Johnson did in Chicago, and Karen Bass did in Los Angeles. Just look at how those two made out so far.

I am betting that he is also getting a lot of funding from people like George Soros, Warren Buffet, Pierre Omidyar, Michael Bloomberg, and Tom Steyer to name a few. https://www.mrc.org/soros-clones-5-liberal-mega-donors-nearly-dangerous-george-soros

Once in office he will likely defund the police, push for soft on crime initiatives, and pretty much all the socialist policies that all the Leftist Sanctuary cities have, turning NYC into one more example of a hellhole of migrant terror and crime than it already is.
 
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