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Zimmerman case is easy. Read the law.

joko104 said:
Giving up his carrying out breaking into someone's house because of GZ watching him - and seeing GZ on the phone, TM ran around the corner to hide the dope he had on him that he was trying to sell to children in the neighborhood. He then waited until opportunity to surprise approach GZ to beat him unconscious or kill him to rob him and steal his truck.

Your turn again to tell a story.
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The latest poll says 97% of all Americans think GZ is guilty
 
ric27 said:
Its getting really tiresome your... "Z lied, Z is guilty, Z fabricated this/that" without backing it up with evidence

Listen up...Z gave a voluntary statement immediately following the shooting. Few do this, yet he did it (I would NEVER do it without counsel) plus Z had know way of knowing if the assault/shooting was witnessed or filmed/recorded and Z gives detailed asseverations

While doing all of this, Z was actually risking a lot. A credible/reliable witness or a video recording contradiction

This clearly indicates Z is not bull****ting
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The statement he gave that night does not match his recorded call. The only common element free of contradiction is he called to report another black guy.

If he doesnt commit suicide he will be in prison for the better part of 25 years and you guys just want some way to deny admitting you supported a murderer and looks like a child molester as well.
 
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Furiounova said:
...the actual CAD records from SCSO show 30 seconds between the end of GZ's call and the beginning of the argument by TM's phone records. They have the call starting at 7:09 but the CAD has it starting at 7:11 which is ironic considering that was the place TM ever visited.
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Obviously you haven't examined the CAD event logs for yourself.
They do not show a connection time of 19:11.
They show a connection time of 19:09.

Here's a thread about it.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimme...line-discrepancy-resolved.html#post1060723768

here's a link to the event report (page 46):
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documen...327330/george-zimmerrman-911-call-history.pdf

at the top left, the connection time is listed.
 
mike2810 said:
Not the poll I saw. Would you please share a link to yours.

" new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 24% of American Adults still believe the man who shot Martin should be found guilty of murder

40% Now Say Trayvon Martin Shot in Self-Defense; 24% Say It Was Murder - Rasmussen Reports™
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It's in this OP.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimme...6-80-believe-george-zimmerman-not-guilty.html

I'm just following Joko's example of linking a poll then inventing the date it was made and the results.

You ever find the balls to address GZ's contradictions? or is it time for laundry and you will respond later?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Obviously you haven't examined the CAD event logs for yourself.
They do not show a connection time of 19:11.
They show a connection time of 19:09.

Here's a thread about it.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimme...line-discrepancy-resolved.html#post1060723768

here's a link to the event report (page 46):
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documen...327330/george-zimmerrman-911-call-history.pdf

at the top left, the connection time is listed.
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I read the CAD report Serino has in his final report. It is on page 40 of the PDF file released two months. It has the call starting at 19:11 and ending at 19:15.

If you lack the ability to read the report yourself let me know and I will post a screenshot of Serino's report.
 
Furiounova said:
I read the CAD report Serino has in his final report. It is on page 40 of the PDF file released two months. It has the call starting at 19:11 and ending at 19:15.
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Better check your screen shot.
AFAICT, in the upper left hand section there's a line for connection time. And next to that is 19:09:34
ymmv
Furiounova said:
If you lack the ability to read the report yourself let me know and I will post a screenshot of Serino's report.
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I do lack the ability to read.
Please provide me a screenshot of the CAD report, NOT a document derived from it.
Here's a link where you can acquire that screenshot.
It's on page 46.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documen...327330/george-zimmerrman-911-call-history.pdf
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Better check your screen shot.
AFAICT, in the upper left hand section there's a line for connection time. And next to that is 19:09:34
ymmv
I do lack the ability to read.
Please provide me a screenshot of the CAD report, NOT a document derived from it.
Here's a link where you can acquire that screenshot.
It's on page 46.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documen...327330/george-zimmerrman-911-call-history.pdf
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I responded to your plagiarized OP so as to not derail this thread.
 
Furiounova said:
It's in this OP.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimme...6-80-believe-george-zimmerman-not-guilty.html

I'm just following Joko's example of linking a poll then inventing the date it was made and the results.

You ever find the balls to address GZ's contradictions? or is it time for laundry and you will respond later?
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I don't debate with one who throws insults. I will continue to ask questions. You can respond or not.

But thanks for the answer. Your post did not make it clear that is the poll you were refering to.

I have stated before, I saw no problem between GZ written statement and the first couple of tape interviews.
You choose not to agree. Your opinion, thats ok.

Oh, by the way, no I am not going through all of the threads and posts to link to where I have stated I saw no issues with the written statement and the first interview.

So why continue with the insults and jabs? Is that the only way you can have a conversation?
 
Furiounova said:
I responded to your plagiarized OP so as to not derail this thread.
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That is a ballsy accusation coming from a guy whose rants with no back up all sound exactly the same....

Zimmerman lied, Martin died
 
Furiounova said:
There is no evidence supporting reasonable fear and there is nothing to support the reason GZ gave for killing him.
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HAHAHHAHAHAHA

STILL denying that broken nose and smashed head..........
 
mike2810 said:
I don't debate with one who throws insults. I will continue to ask questions. You can respond or not.

But thanks for the answer. Your post did not make it clear that is the poll you were refering to.

I have stated before, I saw no problem between GZ written statement and the first couple of tape interviews.
You choose not to agree. Your opinion, thats ok.

Oh, by the way, no I am not going through all of the threads and posts to link to where I have stated I saw no issues with the written statement and the first interview.

So why continue with the insults and jabs? Is that the only way you can have a conversation?
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You have done nothing but dodge the numerous contradictions in his statement and continue to do so. I made the laundry remark because that was the kind of excuse you gave for not addressing his written contradictions.
 
Furiounova said:
You have done nothing but dodge the numerous contradictions in his statement and continue to do so. I made the laundry remark because that was the kind of excuse you gave for not addressing his written contradictions.
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no. you are misguided. It is clear you know nothing about how to look at various data collected over time or how an investigations is conducted. I gave my opinion, you choose to not like it.

Even witness that may support your claims have made changes to their statements. Is that not true? How do you address their contradictions or changing statements?

The point is everything needs to be reviewed. People may remember more things over time. People may use differnt words to described an event over multiple statements. Somewhere in all the statements, there lies the truth.

http://article.wn.com/view/2012/05/24/Four_Witnesses_In_Trayvon_Martin_Case_Changed_Their_Stories/
 
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When are the cops going to arrest Zimmerman?
The DA had to have him arrested before the thug sympathizers burned down the whole town.
This sh** is about fear and race.
 
Furiounova said:
His own doctor's report said:

NO HEAD TRAUMA.
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Exactly what do you think that means?

I ask because most people realize that Zimmerman did have head trauma.
So either the PA made a mistake, "not the Doctor", or "head trauma" is being used differently than what is considered the norm.
One such possibility is the PA meant no concussive injuries.
Because Zimmerman did have trauma to his head as evidence by the photos.

So you continue on in your little world of denial.
And you can read this while you are there.

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Furiounova said:
Already have in that thread. It must suck getting busted but you only make it worse with false indignation.
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LOL.
Anyone who is interested, (possibly some number of people greater than zero--it could happen), can scroll up a little and see what has been posted.
So, I don't know who you think you're fooling.

If you had actual evidence of me committing plagiarism you should be glad to lay it out.
But you don't have evidence any of me committing plagiarism. So there's nothing to lay out.

You have made it clear that you don't know what plagiarism even is.
If you knew what plagiarism is, then you would understand what you would have to show to back up the claim.
The fact that you think you have demonstrated plagiarism, displays the fact that you don't understand the word.

Not knowing what plagiarism means is a very large handicap on your part when it comes to demonstrating that I have committed the illegal and infractable act of plagiarism.
 
Furiounova said:
GZ fabricated TM seeing his gun and then supposedly telling GZ he was going to die because it was all he had to to try and justify the killing.
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No no, right before the fight broke out.
 
Excon said:
You need to listen to Diasha again.

And then the fact that Trayvon was hiding and only came out of hiding when Zimmerman turned his back, says otherwise.


Except this is you speculating. Not what the evidence says.
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Well, its not what ZIMMERMAN says...

But it doesn't conflict with the other evidence.
 
What if...? said:
Well, its not what ZIMMERMAN says...

But it doesn't conflict with the other evidence.
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Trayvon was not just standing there.
If he had been, Zimmerman would have seen him.
Instead he didn't see him and turned around to go back to his vehicle.

For Trayvon to come from behind, he had to come from a place that Zimmerman couldn't/didn't see him, but Trayvon was able to see him.
 
Excon said:
Trayvon was not just standing there.
If he had been, Zimmerman would have seen him.
Instead he didn't see him and turned around to go back to his vehicle.

For Trayvon to come from behind, he had to come from a place that Zimmerman couldn't/didn't see him, but Trayvon was able to see him.
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When I was a teenager we played hide and seek with the special rule you ould only hide in shadow. Yoir hiding place had to be visible in daylight.

Doesn't take much to be in a pool of shadow and not be visible to someone YOU can see. Doesn't even have to be intentional.

And I don't believe Z is being completely honest, and you do, so it is what it is.
 
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