Zelensky PUTS SCREWS INTO Trump after NEW BETRAYAL

[Lethargic Aptitude]

Yet you remain in the US, a country you now hate. Since you hate Russia so much too, and seemingly love Ukraine, why not go there and help them defeat Russia and America?

MAGA does nothing but support our enemies. Making MAGA the enemy, too.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

You are "conveniently" skipping over what Obama and his Color Revolution Dominatrix, Victoria Nuland, did leading up to President Yanukovych fleeing Kyiv on 21 Feb 2024. That was simply the culmination of Obama and his Color Revolution Dominatrix plans that not only toppled a popularly elected government in a foreign nation, but also led to the civil war in Ukraine that Russia intervened in.

Viktor Yanukovych became President of Ukraine after winning the presidential election on February 7, 2010, defeating Yulia Tymoshenko in a runoff (48.95% to 45.47%), and he took office on February 25, 2010, for a five-year term set to end in 2015. During his presidency, the Obama administration and European leaders pushed for Ukraine to sign an association agreement with the EU—a move that would have deepened economic and political ties, drawing Ukraine away from Russian influence and toward Western integration.

The trigger for the 2014 Ukrainian Civil War — “Obama’s Coup”— occurred on November 21, 2013, when Yanukovych abruptly suspended negotiations for the EU Association Agreement. Instead, he chose to maintain Ukraine’s historical ties with Russia’s Eurasian Economic Union after receiving financial incentives from Vladimir Putin, including a promised $15 billion loan. In response, Obama and his “Color Revolution Dominatrix,” Victoria Nuland, orchestrated a color revolution. This sparked protests in Kyiv’s Maidan Nezalezhnosti, which began peacefully but escalated after police crackdowns, such as the beatings on November 30. Unlike the 2004 Orange Revolution, which centered on election fraud, the 2014 upheaval was rooted in a rejection of policy and governance—a clear pro-EU pivot.

The coup led to violent protests between February 18 and 20, 2014, resulting in over 100 deaths and prompting Obama and the EU to call for Yanukovych’s ouster. Nuland, who played a central role in organizing the coup, was even caught on a phone call discussing her choice of a new puppet leader. Although Yanukovych’s term was supposed to run until February 25, 2015, he fled Kyiv on February 21, 2014, amid the chaos, eventually seeking exile in Russia. The following day, on February 22, 2014, Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada voted 328–0 to remove Yanukovych, citing his “self-withdrawal” from office per Constitution Article 108. With his ouster, what some call Obama’s coup was complete. Subsequently, the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk declared their independence after referendums—89% and 96% of voters, respectively, favored independence—plunging Ukraine into a violent civil conflict.

BTW, Color Revolution Dominatrix Victoria Nuland was literally caught on tape discussing which puppet leaders she wanted installed. But sure, tell us more about how Washington just promotes “democracy” and how Viktor Yanukovych simply "ran away" from his office...

This argument sounds as if it were propaganda served straight from the Kremlin.

 

[Tiger]

This argument sounds as if it were propaganda served straight from the Kremlin.

Facts are stubborn things.

 

[Yakshi]

Many insane words, all in a row.

The pool is now up and running for when he will share the same Nuland propaganda video for the sixth time. Place your bets.

 

[Fledermaus]

You are "conveniently" skipping over what Obama and his Color Revolution Dominatrix, Victoria Nuland, did leading up to President Yanukovych fleeing Kyiv on 21 Feb 2024. That was simply the culmination of Obama and his Color Revolution Dominatrix plans that not only toppled a popularly elected government in a foreign nation, but also led to the civil war in Ukraine that Russia intervened in.

Viktor Yanukovych became President of Ukraine after winning the presidential election on February 7, 2010, defeating Yulia Tymoshenko in a runoff (48.95% to 45.47%), and he took office on February 25, 2010, for a five-year term set to end in 2015. During his presidency, the Obama administration and European leaders pushed for Ukraine to sign an association agreement with the EU—a move that would have deepened economic and political ties, drawing Ukraine away from Russian influence and toward Western integration.

The trigger for the 2014 Ukrainian Civil War — “Obama’s Coup”— occurred on November 21, 2013, when Yanukovych abruptly suspended negotiations for the EU Association Agreement. Instead, he chose to maintain Ukraine’s historical ties with Russia’s Eurasian Economic Union after receiving financial incentives from Vladimir Putin, including a promised $15 billion loan. In response, Obama and his “Color Revolution Dominatrix,” Victoria Nuland, orchestrated a color revolution. This sparked protests in Kyiv’s Maidan Nezalezhnosti, which began peacefully but escalated after police crackdowns, such as the beatings on November 30. Unlike the 2004 Orange Revolution, which centered on election fraud, the 2014 upheaval was rooted in a rejection of policy and governance—a clear pro-EU pivot.

The coup led to violent protests between February 18 and 20, 2014, resulting in over 100 deaths and prompting Obama and the EU to call for Yanukovych’s ouster. Nuland, who played a central role in organizing the coup, was even caught on a phone call discussing her choice of a new puppet leader. Although Yanukovych’s term was supposed to run until February 25, 2015, he fled Kyiv on February 21, 2014, amid the chaos, eventually seeking exile in Russia. The following day, on February 22, 2014, Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada voted 328–0 to remove Yanukovych, citing his “self-withdrawal” from office per Constitution Article 108. With his ouster, what some call Obama’s coup was complete. Subsequently, the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk declared their independence after referendums—89% and 96% of voters, respectively, favored independence—plunging Ukraine into a violent civil conflict.

BTW, Color Revolution Dominatrix Victoria Nuland was literally caught on tape discussing which puppet leaders she wanted installed. But sure, tell us more about how Washington just promotes “democracy” and how Viktor Yanukovych simply "ran away" from his office...

tl:dr

Victoria Nuland discussing who the US would prefer is what a diplomat in her position is expected to do.

 

[dandolo2k]

Yet you remain in the US, a country you now hate. Since you hate Russia so much too, and seemingly love Ukraine, why not go there and help them defeat Russia and America?

This is absolutely correct . The main driving point behind all this poster's propaganda is hatred. A hatred towards Russia.
Of cause he has zero sympaty with Ukraine and Ukrainians dying in the battle field. The immoral position of such posters is staggering. The war till the last Ukrainian.
And no ! Cowards never go and fight themselves but they are quick to push anybody else into fighting . In this case poor Ukrainian youth. The hope and future of the nation.
But who cares ? Certainly NOT @iguanaman.

 

[dandolo2k]

Who fired the first salvo, Russia or Ukraine?
Who built up their military presence along the border claiming it was all a training exercise and had no plans to cross the border?

Not buying your proxy war theory

YOu just forgot to add the Ukraine has also built up their military presence along the border with Donbass and was going to strike first!
And Everybody! Biden, Macron, Johnson , they were all aware of it.
Not buying you Western "INVASION" theory.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Yet you remain in the US, a country you now hate. Since you hate Russia so much too, and seemingly love Ukraine, why not go there and help them defeat Russia and America?

You neglected to quote anyone. Who are you addressing?

As I see it, anyone who supports Russia should be on the next flight to Sheremetyevo International Airport.

 

[Jredbaron96]

. Subsequently, the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk declared their independence after referendums—89% and 96% of voters, respectively, favored independence—plunging Ukraine into a violent civil conflict

Lol, not they didn't. The Donbas separatist leaders were caught on a recorded line making up the number they were going to claim for the referendum.

Last Week A Russian Politician Predicted The EXACT Results Of A Rebel Referendum In East Ukraine On Sunday

"Write something like 99% down … well, not 99% … Let's say 89% voted for the Donetsk Republic."

www.businessinsider.com

BTW, Color Revolution Dominatrix Victoria Nuland was literally caught on tape discussing which puppet leaders she wanted installed. But sure, tell us more about how Washington just promotes “democracy” and how Viktor Yanukovych simply "ran away" from his office...

The phone call explicitly mentions bringing Yanukovych onboars with the new government.

 

[Tiger]

tl:dr

Victoria Nuland discussing who the US would prefer is what a diplomat in her position is expected to do.

So you want us to believe that the Color Revolution Dominatrix's job is to discuss which individuals America aims to install in the puppet government created by their coup?

 

[Fledermaus]

So you want us to believe that the Color Revolution Dominatrix's job is to discuss which individuals America aims to install in the puppet government created by their coup?

No one installed a puppet government.

The government wasn't replaced.

It was the very real government that removed Yanukovich from office.

 

[mike2810]

YOu just forgot to add the Ukraine has also built up their military presence along the border with Donbass and was going to strike first!

source or it is just your opinion.

Why would Ukraine strike first and start the war?

And Everybody! Biden, Macron, Johnson , they were all aware of it.
Not buying you Western "INVASION" theory.

that is your propagative. to believe that.

 

[Tiger]

No one installed a puppet government.

The government wasn't replaced.

It was the very real government that removed Yanukovich from office.

Viktor Yanukovych was the President of Ukraine before Obama's coup. Yanukovych's term was originally set to end in February 2015, as Ukrainian presidents serve five-year terms. Yet, Obama's coup forced him from office, with Oleksandr Turchynov, the chairman of unicameral parliament of Ukraine stepped in as Acting President until Petro Poroshenko was installed in office. So yes, the government was clearly replaced via Obama's coup.

 

[Fledermaus]

Viktor Yanukovych was the President of Ukraine before Obama's coup. Yanukovych's term was originally set to end in February 2015, as Ukrainian presidents serve five-year terms. Yet, Obama's coup forced him from office, with Oleksandr Turchynov, the chairman of unicameral parliament of Ukraine stepped in as Acting President until Petro Poroshenko was installed in office. So yes, the government was clearly replaced via Obama's coup.

Time to first stop statement.

First sentence.

Viktor Yanukovych was the President of Ukraine before he enraged the people of Ukraine by turning his back on promises and agreements minimizing Russian influence.

 

[dandolo2k]

source or it is just your opinion.

Oops! Again the game with sources and links! Drink!
Do you know such handy tools as "google.com" or "yandex.com" ? I suppose you do. Of course you know and know how to use it. And still pretend that you don't know.
YEa, Don't know how to google links... (Sigh)
Ok here is ONE OF MANY links/sources, that you CAN find yourself, if you WANT:

https://development.malvinartley.com/wp-content/uploads/filr/3896/war_in_ukraine_buildup_moa.pdf

In early 2022 Ukraine had finished the preparations for an overwhelming attack on the renegade People Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk (DPR and LNR). Half of the Ukrainian army, some 120,000 men recruited and trained during the last 7 years, were stationed near the ceasefire line and ready to go. On the opposing side only some 40,000 men were under arms. They would have little chance to withstand an onslaught.

The U.S. had for months warned of an upcoming Russian attack on Ukraine. It could do that because it knew the Ukraine would attempt to regain the republics by force. It knew that Russia would have to respond. On January 12 2022 CIA director Bill Burns had secretly met Zelensky in Kiev. Burns often carries messages from President Joe Biden.

Once you read this you will exclaim pathetically : but why there is no confirmation in CNN/BBC/Reuters/Any-Other-Western-Propaganda-Outlet ?
So , indeed why ? Do you guess the possible reason ? Why no confirmation ? And if you think more thoroughly ?
Well the honest answer will be because they are all Western liars and will never let such deplorable info to spoil their shining illuminating theory of "Russian invasion".
But of course you don't like this answer.

Why would Ukraine strike first and start the war?

Because Ukraine believes that everything it seized by force or stolen (like Crimea and Donbass), actually belongs to it. To Ukraine! To The great ominous Ukrainian Empire!

that is your propagative. to believe that.

Yea the problem is actually in your belief. You believe in Western and Ukrainian lies and you WANT to believe in these LIES. This is why no matter what is the truth and reality, you will continue to rehearse and parrot the same fables: Russian "invasion", "Bucha", "atrocities" and bah blah blah...

 

[Roadvirus]

This is absolutely correct . The main driving point behind all this poster's propaganda is hatred. A hatred towards Russia.

Then maybe Russia should stop doing barbaric shit & other things that cause people to hate it.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

The President doesn't have to condemn those you wish he condemns, does he?

If he wants to be the legitimate leader of the free world, yes, he does.

He CANNOT support dictators.

 

[mike2810]

Oops! Again the game with sources and links! Drink!
Do you know such handy tools as "google.com" or "yandex.com" ? I suppose you do. Of course you know and know how to use it. And still pretend that you don't know.
YEa, Don't know how to google links... (Sigh)

The reason I ask for a source is to read what you have that convinced you.
Anyone can Search the Ukraine/War.
imo, you should be careful on calling people out when they ask for a source.

Ok here is ONE OF MANY links/sources, that you CAN find yourself, if you WANT:

Thank you for providing a source.
The reason I ask is I like to read what you used to come to your opinion.
I have googled the Ukraine/Russia war.

Once you read this you will exclaim pathetically : but why there is no confirmation in CNN/BBC/Reuters/Any-Other-Western-Propaganda-Outlet ?
So , indeed why ? Do you guess the possible reason ? Why no confirmation ? And if you think more thoroughly ?
Well the honest answer will be because they are all Western liars and will never let such deplorable info to spoil their shining illuminating theory of "Russian invasion".
But of course you don't like this answer.

interesting you diss western sources yet you accept a Forum Blog "Moon of Alabama" as totally creditable.
The site explains a lot
"This site's purpose is to discuss politics, economics, philosophy and blogger Billmon's Whiskey Bar writings.
Some time ago, the commenting at Billmon's Whiskey Bar became a bit excessive. Billmon therefore closed the comments at his place on June 29, 2004. The community of commentators was left behind to search for a new place.

Moon Of Alabama was opened as an independent, open forum for members of the Whiskey Bar community.

Bernhard started and still runs the site. Once a while you will also find posts and art from regular commentators.

The name of the original Whiskey Bar was taken from Bertolt Brecht's Alabama Song where the first line goes:

===========
It is a blog. Not much better than others.

Because Ukraine believes that everything it seized by force or stolen (like Crimea and Donbass), actually belongs to it. To Ukraine! To The great ominous Ukrainian Empire!

Yea the problem is actually in your belief. You believe in Western and Ukrainian lies and you WANT to believe in these LIES. This is why no matter what is the truth and reality, you will continue to rehearse and parrot the same fables: Russian "invasion", "Bucha", "atrocities" and bah blah blah...

and your "belief" is better than others?
I will go with mine

War in Ukraine | Global Conflict Tracker

Learn about the world's top hotspots with this interactive Global Conflict Tracker from the Center for Preventive Action at the Council on Foreign Relations.

www.cfr.org

Have a good one.

War in Ukraine | Global Conflict Tracker

Learn about the world's top hotspots with this interactive Global Conflict Tracker from the Center for Preventive Action at the Council on Foreign Relations.

www.cfr.org

 

[Tiger]

Time to first stop statement.

First sentence.

Viktor Yanukovych was the President of Ukraine before he enraged the people of Ukraine by turning his back on promises and agreements minimizing Russian influence.

Contrary to claims that Yanukovych turned his back on promises to minimize Russian influence, he never campaigned on rejecting Russia or prioritizing the EU at the expense of neutrality.

Viktor Yanukovych's campaign in 2010 and subsequent presidency were marked by an attempt to modernize Ukraine's economy while maintaining a delicate balance between the European Union (EU) and Russia. During his campaign, he emphasized the importance of expanding trade with the EU, presenting it as a means to bolster Ukraine's economic development. However, he was careful not to frame this as a move toward a formal partnership with the EU that would compromise Ukraine's neutrality or sever ties with Russia. This balanced rhetoric carried into his presidency, where he sought to navigate Ukraine's strategic position between East and West. Yanukovych recognized the significance of Ukraine's economic relationship with Russia, as the majority of Ukraine's trade was with its eastern neighbor, and much of its manufacturing relied on licensed technology from Russia.

Yanukovych's strategy included military non-alignment, steering clear of commitments that would deepen Ukraine's involvement with NATO or Russia's military initiatives. While he did not explicitly commit to joining the EU, his policies suggested a cautious pivot away from deeper diplomatic, economic, and military cooperation with Russia. This careful balance diverged sharply from President Obama’s geopolitical strategy, as Obama aimed to pry Ukraine away from Russia’s sphere of influence as part of his broader Cold War 2.0 initiative. This divergence highlighted the tension between Yanukovych’s pragmatic balancing act and Obama’s more assertive efforts to reshape Ukraine’s alignment in the region.

 

[Fledermaus]

Contrary to claims that Yanukovych turned his back on promises to minimize Russian influence, he never campaigned on rejecting Russia or prioritizing the EU at the expense of neutrality.

Viktor Yanukovych's campaign in 2010 and subsequent presidency were marked by an attempt to modernize Ukraine's economy while maintaining a delicate balance between the European Union (EU) and Russia. During his campaign, he emphasized the importance of expanding trade with the EU, presenting it as a means to bolster Ukraine's economic development. However, he was careful not to frame this as a move toward a formal partnership with the EU that would compromise Ukraine's neutrality or sever ties with Russia. This balanced rhetoric carried into his presidency, where he sought to navigate Ukraine's strategic position between East and West. Yanukovych recognized the significance of Ukraine's economic relationship with Russia, as the majority of Ukraine's trade was with its eastern neighbor, and much of its manufacturing relied on licensed technology from Russia.

Yanukovych's strategy included military non-alignment, steering clear of commitments that would deepen Ukraine's involvement with NATO or Russia's military initiatives. While he did not explicitly commit to joining the EU, his policies suggested a cautious pivot away from deeper diplomatic, economic, and military cooperation with Russia. This careful balance diverged sharply from President Obama’s geopolitical strategy, as Obama aimed to pry Ukraine away from Russia’s sphere of influence as part of his broader Cold War 2.0 initiative. This divergence highlighted the tension between Yanukovych’s pragmatic balancing act and Obama’s more assertive efforts to reshape Ukraine’s alignment in the region.

Thank you for the revisionist version of history.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Contrary to claims that Yanukovych turned his back on promises to minimize Russian influence, he never campaigned on rejecting Russia or prioritizing the EU at the expense of neutrality.

Neutrality my ass. For the 2010 election, Yanukovych promised Ukrainians that he would sign an Association Agreement with the EU. Yanukovych attended the EU ceremony in Vilnius, Lithuania on November 28-29, 2013, but when the moment arrived for Yanukovych to sign the Agreement, he refused. He flew back to Ukraine and reiterated that he was not going to reverse his decision. Then he hopped on a plane to Moscow and signed a trade agreement with Putin and a loan of $3 billion (to be repaid from Ukraine's tranasit fees for moving Russian oil across Ukraine). Yanukovych reneged on his campaign promises and the people of Ukraine rebelled. Besides refusing to sign the EU Association Agreement, Yanukovych had moved his family into a mansion in the suburb of Mezhyhirya north of Kyiv worth an estimated $75 million. The garage contained over 30 of the 1950s and 1960s Moskvitch vintage cars.

Ukraine protests after Yanukovych EU deal rejection

Thousands of people stage fresh protests in Ukraine's capital, Kiev, at President Yanukovych's refusal to sign an EU association agreement.

www.bbc.com

The Mezhyhirya mansion of Viktor Yanukovych.

 

[dandolo2k]

Neutrality my ass. For the 2010 election, Yanukovych promised Ukrainians that he would sign an Association Agreement with the EU. Yanukovych attended the EU ceremony in Vilnius, Lithuania on November 28-29, 2013, but when the moment arrived for Yanukovych to sign the Agreement, he refused. He flew back to Ukraine and reiterated that he was not going to reverse his decision. Then he hopped on a plane to Moscow and signed a trade agreement with Putin and a loan of $3 billion (to be repaid from Ukraine's tranasit fees for moving Russian oil across Ukraine). Yanukovych reneged on his campaign promises and the people of Ukraine rebelled.

People of Ukraine rebelled? Indeed?
They should have used due process to impeach him , preserving the constitutional order in the country. They could have waited and elected another president of Ukraine. What's the problem ?
This is how it is done in the civilized Western countries according to the legal democratic process.
So in this shining fable (a "social uprising" in Ukraine) there is one big ominous protruding LIE.
It was not the "people" who rebelled. It was armed aggressive mob, which has nothing to do with the ordinary people of Ukraine. And this mob was prepared and trained long before the 2014 military coup. They were just waiting for the proper occasion.
So when the similar mob on Jan 6 stormed American parliament it was labeled as "revolters", "criminals" just because they demanded due investigation into the 2020 Election fraud.
But the same yet much more aggressive and ferocious Ukrainian "protesters" were introduced as the heros and saviours of the nation.
American hawkish war mongering leftists don't see much inconsistency in these similar cases.

Besides refusing to sign the EU Association Agreement, Yanukovych had moved his family into a mansion in the suburb of Mezhyhirya north of Kyiv worth an estimated $75 million.

Blah blah blah , here the western propaganda goes as usual. To stain and stigmatize Yanukovich by any possible means. The ordinary practice. Do you have a copy book with this propaganda shit prepared for the swift copy paste ?

The garage contained over 30 of the 1950s and 1960s Moskvitch vintage cars.

Ukraine protests after Yanukovych EU deal rejection

Thousands of people stage fresh protests in Ukraine's capital, Kiev, at President Yanukovych's refusal to sign an EU association agreement.

www.bbc.com

The Mezhyhirya mansion of Viktor Yanukovych.

And what about the french bank , acquired by mr. Ukrainian Clown ?
And his premium real estate property ?
Oh unfortunately it is outside of Ukraine. Because it is where he is ready to flee after he "processes" all the Ukrainian human resources for his meat grinder in the East.

 

[Rogue Valley]

The Mezhyhirya mansion of Viktor Yanukovych. It is today a state museum showing Ukrainians the opulent corruption of Viktor Yanukovych.

You can bet the farm that Volodmyr Zelenskyy does not own any property like the above worth $75 million.

Yanukovych obtained this mansion using state money (corruption). The job of president pays nowhere near what it would cost to purchase and maintain the mansion above.

Yet somehow, Yanukovych did exactly that.

The facts behind resurfaced claim that Zelenskyy has multiple homes, planes, offshore accounts

Rumors that Zelenskyy owned a Florida mansion and had $1.2 billion in offshore accounts circulated prior to the Ukraine war.

www.snopes.com

 

[Hamish Howl]

YOu just forgot to add the Ukraine has also built up their military presence along the border with Donbass and was going to strike first!
And Everybody! Biden, Macron, Johnson , they were all aware of it.
Not buying you Western "INVASION" theory.

Pathetic bullshit.

 

[Bodi]

Trump's refusal to condemn Russia's brutal attack with 2 ballistic missiles that killed 36 Ukrainians including 7 children on Palm Sunday makes him complicit with the atrocity. We have become part of the axis of evil and the pictures of Witkoff pledging allegiance to the war criminal Putin will live in infamy. I am sickened by this. Our country is lost.

A person not condemning an atrocity means that person is complicit in that atrocity?



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