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Good it make speople more accountable and might deter online bullyig and trolling.
This is a good example of how people avoid the main topic by focusing on semantics.
Why did you think it necessary to mention him in the context which you mentioned?“I don't know what else you want me to call him.”
Should have been cut off at that point avoiding any comments on the latter part. By making it part of the OP , therefore by extension, becomes part of the topic.“It's definitely not for me. I do not, never will, need or want my ex husband to find me online and harass me like he did in the past.”
And there is no right in this world to be allowed to say those things anonymously either. If you don't want YouTube to have your name, don't give it to them. If you want to say mean things on YouTube, then put your real name beside it.
But the fact it's not a law is a HUGE difference. I would not agree with a law which forces people to be nice. I would not even agree with a law requiring people use their real names on the Internet. But we're not talking about a law (as you acknowledged) we're talking about YouTube.
Which whiny little brats? The ones complaining they can no longer troll anonymously?
So...psychologically bad means we should be okay with children killing themselves? I'm not sure if I can go along with your position on this one.
Then don't put it on there.
You seem to be wanting your cake and to eat it too. You want other people to suck it up (you know, the people who might kill themselves) but you don't want to suck it up because your job might find out you are a Bronie (I assume you are male? Everyone on the Internet is until proven otherwise). Ignoring for a moment the fact I would see this as a legal issue for YouTube more than anything else, it seems as if you want to hold people to a higher standard than you want to hold yourself to.
Think of how many more people might be alive, or suffering from less psychological trauma if they were being bullied and harassed anonymously online.
We'll just have to disagree on this point. I find it hard to believe (as in it could never happen) that my employer would fire me for my political views and if my employer did, I probably wouldn't want to work for that person anyways. But even if I do accept that premise, I dare say being unemployed is a far better result than a child killing his or herself. But, then again, I have a real soft spot for children.
It won't kill their membership. And I disagree completely, I think it has much more to do with legal covering of asses. ESPN has done it. Huffington Post announced they will be doing it. More and more big companies will do it, companies who have nothing to do with the MPAA or RIAA.Youtube can feel free to go do that. It will kill their membership. You can also bet the real reason for it is so it is easier for things like the MPAA and RIAA to track users and it has nothing to do with trolling.
No, YouTube doesn't need trolls. That's simply false.It is an unwise move on their point. An unpopular law has force behind it. An unpopular rule has no force behind it and as people move away so will popularity because youtube users are all about the views. They need to recognize the trolls and the popular live in a symbiotic social relationship. Without the controversy their stuff simply will not be popular. They need trolls.
No, it's not healthy. But it's still a fact that people do. You're telling me you're okay with people being harrassed and bullied to the point of suicidal contemplations just so you can post about My Little Pony anonymously?No, the whiny little turds who cannot get that someone saying something bad about you on the internet is not the end of the world. Seriously, do you think it is really healthy to hold the opinions of some jerkoff you will never meet in such high regard that it drastically effects your happiness and causes you to think of offing yourself? That is a psychological disorder, and you are not helping the person by pretending that sort of thing is normal. They need some help to stop taking BS so seriously before they kill themselves because there is far worse than some troll on the internet you will have to deal with in your life. The day trolls become the biggest problem in the world will be a great day for this planet.
The troll is not "causing" it, but rather contributing to it.No, it means for those kids who are so dysfunctional that they would kill themselves over some words on a screen from a person who should effect their life in absolutely no way whatsoever we need to get some help and not pretend it is the problem of the trolls. That is being way too oversensitive. That is a major breakdown of self perception and self esteem, and the troll did not cause that.
But we're not talking about you. That's the point. We're talking about others, children even. I agree with your premise children should be stronger and should have been mental toughness, but many of them simply don't. It seems incredibly calloused to me to simply say, "Well, you should have been stronger, then you wouldn't have died".You can insult me all day long and call me any name you want, and simply it comes down to you do not like me.
But you can suck it up in other ways. Don't post on YouTube. Don't post about My Little Pony. Find another website to do so.The reality is i cannot suck it up for my boss.
But you're not sucking it up. YouTube is bothering you and you're complaining about it here. And you're complaining because YouTube is instituting policies which are likely being done for legal reasons, but also for reasons why may save a child's life. I'm sorry, I just do not have much sympathy for someone who wants others to suck it up and then complains because they are not getting their way.if someone on the internet is bothering me i can suck it up and find a better part of life to live.
No more so than a lawsuit alleging YouTube allowed harassment to take place.The reality is when youtube does this there are a couple of scenarios that may happen. the first is they require everyone to put their real name there to hold people accountable. This will kill youtube and something else will pop up in it's place.
....I'm supposed to feel bad for people who can no longer break the law by pirating content?It will be twice as bad because they will get people for piracy also and no one will be left there.
Your cavalier attitude towards child suicide is rather disturbing to me.Youtube knows this and i would be amazed if they risked it for some wussies.
So is putting your name besides your words and actions. Get used to it.This is part of the world. get used to it.
What am I feeling "righteous" about? I'm simply saying there are many good reasons for YouTube to require real names. You're throwing a fit because your boss might find out you like a children's TV show which was originally intended for little girls.It is neccessary for you to feel rightious that you have an evil to fight against.
No. People like me exist because we believe in caring for people. People like me exist because we don't want to see a child, during the most confusing times of their lives, being bullied to the point where they feel so tormented by others they take their own life. People like me exist because we have a heart and we care.People like you exist because people like I do
I guess it's necessary for you to feel righteous that you have an evil to fight against.Some people win, some people lose, sometimes you will be on both sides of that. The harder you fight, the harder they will fight. If you do not fight the other side will run you over. That is reality, and that is the internet.
Oh...so the attack on YOUR person is unacceptable. The attack on other people is a case of other people needing to quit being a wussy. Got it.The losing of the job is not the problem. It is the attack on who you are as a person and the prejudice and problems you face over BS
Not very well, it seems.Now I can deal with that.
I'm not gay, everyone knows that. Going in and lying would not make me a good person. But we do have an openly gay man where I work. And he's been there for years.Since you are allowing the bullies at a job to exist and playing pretend they are not there. yes, you are playing pretend they are not there. if you do not believe me go in tomorrow and tell them you are gay or transgendered.
I'm an adult. Many of the people dealing with this are not.You will find out very quick who the bullies at work are.
No, I'm telling you your desire to discuss a little girl's TV show in anonymity should never trump a child's life. I don't mind you helping them understand the world can be mean. But for you to be okay with these children killing themselves just so you can post hurtful comments anonymously is something I could not and will not agree with.Now what you are saying is that you are going to send this thin skinned little whiner into the world and hide the reality that mean people exist, and they are going to get into a job and be forced to work around one of these people who is going to actually be present in their face, and effect their livelihood. You are telling me that I am wrong for telling that person to buck up and find some way to deal with the reality that you will face bullies in your life and you need to appreciate and be strong in yourself and not take their opinions to heart because they do not care for you. Then you are going to send that defenseless person out with the **** on the streets? We do have something in common, we are both sadists.
Would you say the same thing should prospective employers, who typically are richer than normal folks, decide to not hire Democrats. They'll check your Facebook to find out whether you are a liberal or not.Good it make speople more accountable and might deter online bullyig and trolling.
Would you say the same thing should prospective employers, who typically are richer than normal folks, decide to not hire Democrats. They'll check your Facebook to find out whether you are a liberal or not.
If an employer didn't want to employee me based on my political views then I would be glad not to work for such a company. Fortunately in the UK we don't take out political leans as seriously as you Americans do.
You paint with a broad brush by supposing that political attitudes such as you read on this forum are in any way typical of Americans.
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