Your honest opinion about sex ed (2 Viewers)

[Gordy327]

right is teaching kids about guns,

That might explain all the school shootings. Looks like they learned those lessons

that male is male and female is female and its mental illness otherwise

what mental illness? I would assume genitalia would be covered in a sex ed class, not psychology.

, its teaching kids hard work is good, obesity is bad, college isn't for everybody, treat everyone equally and fairly and you earn what you have in life, don't expect to be given anything.

schools already teach that in the form of school rules, respect towards teachers and others, cooperation in sports or other activities. Of course, such things should be taught by the parents.

Oh, God is good, killing babies in the womb is bad

Says who? God cannot be taught in public schools. Save that for church.

we need teachers teaching all the above, right ?

Other than the god and abortion part, they do.

its not for schools to teach no, I don't agree

Why not? What's the problem with it?

no its not

Sure it is. Just ask some who had an abortion. They probably didn't think kids were a blessing.

 

[TamleeB]

Do you need to have been there to tell us based on facts why we didn't have sex ed before the 1960s? Is that how history works? The only way you can give facts is if you were there? Seems pretty dumb.

Facts? I am totally open to review any facts you would like to present to me. It is very naive to believe discussions involving sex were as open and readily available 50 years ago as they are today. Our Society has changed immensely. I actually have been blessed to have the opportunity to be involved in educating our teen on sexual awareness.

 

[Phys251]

Facts? I am totally open to review any facts you would like to present to me.

Your posting history suggests otherwise.

 

[roguenuke]

I wouldn't equate sex education to the alphabet. I recall parents having a say in field trips, graphic videos, and dissections. When I was in school, sex education fell into a similar category with graphic videos. Parents had to sign off on it. They also had to sign off on us watching videos about the Holocaust.

And that is an issue. It is almost as important as sex ed. Also no one should get to not have to learn about the Holocaust, but don't you think there could be some who would choose to have their kids not learn that either, since we do have some Holocaust deniers in the US?

Field trips are always going to be different because they are going off campus. I'm willing to bet though that parents of some of those who went with us to England and Ireland did not know that their kids would be viewing naked art, sculptures within the garden at one of the places we visited, a house Shakespeare's wife grew up in (I think it was his wife's childhood home, I have a terrible memory).

 

[TamleeB]

Your posting history suggests otherwise.

I am open to Hautley presenting facts. Do you want in on our discussion

 

[Phys251]

I am open to Hautley presenting facts. Do you want in on our discussion

Facts such as the fact that Western Europe, which teaches its kids comprehensive sex ed, has lower rates of teen pregnancy than we do?

 

[TamleeB]

Facts such as the fact that Western Europe, which teaches its kids comprehensive sex ed, has lower rates of teen pregnancy than we do?

I am not sure where you are headed with this. I was having a discussion with someone else? But anywho…..I believe in sex education. I have worked with agencies involved with sex education. I also believe parents should be involved in that process. I mentioned earlier that the High School I was employed at had a great sex education quarter during their year long health course. Parents were sent the syllabus of the course, and asked to sign off on it (which I thought was a great idea). They knew exactly what would be discussed and that made for great communication between teachers and parents.

 

[Xilnik]

And that is an issue. It is almost as important as sex ed. Also no one should get to not have to learn about the Holocaust, but don't you think there could be some who would choose to have their kids not learn that either, since we do have some Holocaust deniers in the US?

Field trips are always going to be different because they are going off campus. I'm willing to bet though that parents of some of those who went with us to England and Ireland did not know that their kids would be viewing naked art, sculptures within the garden at one of the places we visited, a house Shakespeare's wife grew up in (I think it was his wife's childhood home, I have a terrible memory).

To be fair, the Holocaust video was only a small part of the lesson plan, and it was very graphic since it included videos from the concentration camps and some of the experiments conducted on Jews. It was not easy to watch. We had reading material from a textbook that described the atrocities too.

But yes, I would consider sex education important. I never said it wasn't. My point was that I'd rather parents have the option than to pull their kids out of school because they will likely miss out on a lot more from a public school than the topic of sex education. Rather than driving families away, could schools offer alternative lessons or discussions that still address the core principles of sex education? What about an option to provide the same material for parents to take home and present in their own way?

 

[Phys251]

I am not sure where you are headed with this. I was having a discussion with someone else? But anywho…..I believe in sex education. I have worked with agencies involved with sex education. I also believe parents should be involved in that process. I mentioned earlier that the High School I was employed at had a great sex education quarter during their year long health course. Parents were sent the syllabus of the course, and asked to sign off on it (which I thought was a great idea). They knew exactly what would be discussed and that made for great communication between teachers and parents.

You didn't answer my question. Are you OK with comprehensive sex ed?

 

[soylentgreen]

I will never ever pay to watch a movie in a theatre again. And this coming is from a woman whose daughter is in the industry.

True, it is easier and more comfortable to stream it at home. But the wicked movie was a special event. An outdoor theater in melbourne central park and vip seats which meant a bean bag and a blanket.

 

[Hatuey]

Facts?

Yes, do you know what facts contributed to there not being sex ed 60+ years ago?

 

[TamleeB]

You didn't answer my question. Are you OK with comprehensive sex ed?

I did answer your question. I totally believe sex education in our school system is needed. I have lived it, was part of the process for 13 years. I also believe it is very important to have the involvement of parents in the process. I believed having a syllabus sent to the parents was a great idea. Having a signature that the parents wanted their teens to be a part of that process was equally important. In all my years I only saw a few whom refused.

 

[Phys251]

I did answer your question. I totally believe sex education in our school system is needed. I have lived it, was part of the process for 13 years. I also believe it is very important to have the involvement of parents in the process. I believed having a syllabus sent to the parents was a great idea. Having a signature that the parents wanted their teens to be a part of that process was equally important. In all my years I only saw a few whom refused.

No, you didn't. It was a very specific question. Comprehensive sex ed, do you favor it, yes or no?

 

[Atreus21]

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Google is ripe with sources - I thought it was common knowledge how sex education has led to a steep decline in teen pregnancy rates in the US.

Guess not?

That's about what I expected. First, the article cites that contraceptive use greatly contributed to the decline. The FDA approved the birth-control pill in 1960, after which we see a steep decline. Certainly sex-education would have raised awareness of the pill's existence, but if you're claim is that sex ed can be credited with falling teen pregnancy rates, I think you're giving it more credit than it's owed.

Second, the primary driver was in women aged 18 to 19, most of whom were most likely married. That type of teen pregnancy I don't regard as a social ill on the level of a 15-year-old mother. The rates of pregnancy for girls that young (15 to 17) stayed pretty steady all the way until 1994. So again, I don't see how you can credit sex ed with the decline we've seen since then.

Also, I'd be very interested to see teen birth rates from before the baby boom.

 

[TamleeB]

Yes, do you know what facts contributed to there not being sex ed 60+ years ago?

I am open. Go for it? Of course I am more concerned with the modern age. Have you been involved in any sex education programs? Volunteered at any agencies that provide sex education? If you have I am interested in hearing more about how they were involved within the education system.

 

[Atreus21]

Managing just fine before sex ed :

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I bet the womens can't wait to get back to 6-7 kids and abject poverty. Hop on ladies, we're going ****ing.

Yeeehaaaaaw.

What are those pictures from?

 

[TamleeB]

No, you didn't. It was a very specific question. Comprehensive sex ed, do you favor it, yes or no?

I answered your question. I believe it is important to deal with sexuality in healthy manner Including physical, emotional, social and cognitive aspects.

 

[TamleeB]

What are those pictures from?

A very long time ago.

 

[Phys251]

I answered your question. I believe it is important to deal with sexuality in healthy manner Including physical, emotional, social and cognitive aspects.

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_sex_education

Comprehensive sex education (CSE) is an instructional approach aimed at providing individuals, particularly young people, with accurate, holistic information about sexuality, relationships, and reproductive health. Unlike abstinence-only education, CSE includes a broad curriculum that covers topics such as safe sex practices, contraception, sexually transmitted infections (STIs), sexual orientation, gender identity, and relationship skills. This approach seeks to empower individuals to make informed, responsible decisions regarding their sexual health and to promote respect and equality in sexual relationships.[1][2][3]​

You do favor all of that?

 

[reinaert]

Well there is a well thought out idea.

It was, for Ben Franklin. If a person doesn't like the requirements for civilization, s/he can **** off to the wilderness. And sex ed - like fire departments, snow removal, health inspectors and highway safety - is a damned needful requirement for modern life.

 

[TamleeB]

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_sex_education

Comprehensive sex education (CSE) is an instructional approach aimed at providing individuals, particularly young people, with accurate, holistic information about sexuality, relationships, and reproductive health. Unlike abstinence-only education, CSE includes a broad curriculum that covers topics such as safe sex practices, contraception, sexually transmitted infections (STIs), sexual orientation, gender identity, and relationship skills. This approach seeks to empower individuals to make informed, responsible decisions regarding their sexual health and to promote respect and equality in sexual relationships.[1][2][3]​

You do favor all of that?

LOL. I have been involved in this process for years. Including all of what you mentioned. I did notice one thing left out is date rape. It happen more often then most realize.

 

[TamleeB]

It was, for Ben Franklin. If a person doesn't like the requirements for civilization, s/he can **** off to the wilderness. And sex ed - like fire departments, snow removal, health inspectors and highway safety - is a damned needful requirement for modern life.

Ok. Whatever floats your boat.

 

[Phys251]

LOL. I have been involved in this process for years.

So you favor teaching safe-sex practices and gender identities. Great to hear, welcome aboard!

Including all of what you mentioned. I did notice one thing left out is date rape. It happen more often then most realize.

"CSE includes a broad curriculum that covers topics such as..."

You missed that important part.

 

[TamleeB]

So you favor teaching safe-sex practices and gender identities. Great to hear, welcome aboard!



"CSE includes a broad curriculum that covers topics such as..."

You missed that important part.

I have clearly given you my opinion numerous times. I do believe one aspect you may not agree with and that is the importance of having parents involved.

 

[Phys251]

I have clearly given you my opinion numerous times. I do believe one aspect you may not agree with and that is the importance of having parents involved.

You seem upset about this. Why won't you admit to liking the specifics of teaching safe-sex practices and gender identities?