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You know, there are multiple really good and competent conservatives who could run for President.

noonereal said:
Liz Cheney may well run but she would not stand a chance as there are very few conservatives in the GOP any longer. They are 90% Trump nutters.
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If (when) Liz gets kicked to the curb in her primary, that may open more doors than it closes for her.

As an uncommitted independent who votes the person and neither for or against the party, and given the total bozo's the big two keep pushing in our faces, I would vote for Cheney if she ran as a D, R, or Independent.

Instead of some ancient empty suit vote-monger, she has demonstrated her ability to think clearly, act logically, and mostly, respect the office she would be running for.
 
Grandpappy said:
Even if the insane opposition is successful in keeping Trump from running, we have lots of great candidates. Any one of which is ten times the administrator of the current clown. What the Democrats fail to understand is their policies are failures. Trump's not the boogyman. Your downfall will be due to the current trajectory of the Democratic party.

Watch it happen, even without Trump in the picture.
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NO THANK YOU Fascism controls the current fake republican party, AKA no republicans. ALEC has no use for republicans, democrats, liberals, old school republicans or any other practical fiscally responsible thinkers.

Thus has declared a 24/7 :
--- War On Good Wages aka Right To Work Legislation
--- War against AFFORDABLE Medical Insurance and Single Payer
--- War On Medicare
--- War On Medicaid
--- War on public education and Higher Education
--- War On Social Security Insurance
--- War on the economy through Supply Side Wreckanomics
--- War against women
--- War on the VA and Veterans Benefits
--- War on Voters Rights = VOTER SUPPRESSION
--- War on strict gun regulations
--- War On National Monuments/Parks
--- War on the press
--- War on the USA Postal Service
--- War On Environmental Cleanliness
--- War On USA Jobs through Free Trade Agreements and Leveraged Buyout Scams
--- War for Oil Control Worldwide
--- War on truth about global warming/climate change
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2010/03/30/174616/koch-denial-machine/

Aegis Strategic
http://www.motherjones.com/politics...candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic

Right Wing Watch
http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/al...te-special-interests-state-legislatures#Voter
 
Grandpappy said:
As I said in another thread, you'll love President Cruz. He a constitutionalist. Really smart guy.
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He'll only be allowed to run if Trump gives him his balls back. He's a political wind sock. He'll take whichever side of an issue you tell him to take. He's a spineless jackass and perfect for the GOP.
 
The Old Soul said:
If (when) Liz gets kicked to the curb in her primary, that may open more doors than it closes for her.

As an uncommitted independent who votes the person and neither for or against the party, and given the total bozo's the big two keep pushing in our faces, I would vote for Cheney if she ran as a D, R, or Independent.

Instead of some ancient empty suit vote-monger, she has demonstrated her ability to think clearly, act logically, and mostly, respect the office she would be running for.
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If Liz refuses to support and push the ALEC Fascist agenda she will not get elected .....Pence is very much ALEC as is the majority of the FAKE GOP party. I say Susan Collins strayed off the trail and fell into the Fascist Agenda hole.

Liz Cheney is doing a good thing for the USA no question HOWEVER that is as far as it goes. Liz has supported right wing politics forever even supported Rump at least 90% of the time ........ she retains the family tradition.

Liz has taken the lead role in trying to take back the White House, house and senate. LET'S NOT GET DUPED AGAIN.

Thank you Liz for throwing Trump and associates under the bus. I can never vote for you no matter that you are an oscar winning actress. I prefer absolute moderates and liberals no question about it.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
No President before Trump is alleged to have committed sedition and is under investigation by both Congress and the DOJ.
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In a strange conundrum never seen before in American politics, as grassroots Republicans cheer Trump on, top Republicans who have spent months trying to dissuade Donald Trump from announcing another Presidential campaign before the midterms have changed their minds.

They think this is a great time for Donald Trump to announce his candidacy for President -- over two years ahead of time.

CNN explains, "Trump has received a fresh wave of encouragement to jump start his next presidential campaign in the 24 hours since his primary residence became the target of an FBI search warrant."

That is just plain nuts, but it is obvious what the Republican Party is trying to do. They want to change a highly provocative negative into a positive. That is silly. It is like a bank robber's lawyer arguing the guy was just making a harmless withdrawal of funds that he needed.

It gets worse for Republicans.

Donald Trump pleaded the Fifth.

ABC reports, "Donald Trump on Wednesday invoked his Fifth Amendment protection against testifying against himself during an hours-long deposition as part of the New York attorney general's civil investigation into his family real estate business.

"The former president was seen arriving at the attorney general's office in New York City around 9 a.m. local time and left about six hours later.

"A source with knowledge of the matter confirmed to ABC News that Trump declined to answer questions from investigators in the deposition.

"Under the advice of my counsel ... I decline to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the United States Constitution," Trump said.

The real conundrum is this.

Why is it that Congressional Republicans and grassroots Republicans want a crook and a traitor for President?

Yes, true, a person is innocent until proven guilty, but that is only true in a court of law. It is not true in the court of public opinion or the voters' booth.

The Jan. 6 committee has disclosed an enormous amount of evidence of Trump's guilt, and an innocent man does not plead the Fifth.

Who said that about the Fifth? Donald Trump, during the 2016 Presidential campaign.
 
Grandpappy said:
Even if the insane opposition is successful in keeping Trump from running, we have lots of great candidates. Any one of which is ten times the administrator of the current clown. What the Democrats fail to understand is their policies are failures. Trump's not the boogyman. Your downfall will be due to the current trajectory of the Democratic party.

Watch it happen, even without Trump in the picture.
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But could they beat a populist democrat backed by the media and tech companies? In todays American, can substance beat marketing?
 
Grandpappy said:
Even if the insane opposition is successful in keeping Trump from running, we have lots of great candidates. Any one of which is ten times the administrator of the current clown. What the Democrats fail to understand is their policies are failures. Trump's not the boogyman. Your downfall will be due to the current trajectory of the Democratic party.

Watch it happen, even without Trump in the picture.
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Who are these sane, competent Republicans who aren't election denying, gun-regulation-opposing, elitist, fascist pieces of shit? Who?

When you call the opposition to the Trumpublican shit show "insane", it seems like maybe what you've been using as a mirror is really just a framed picture of a turnip.

There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING crazier in American politics than the Traitor Trump cult, nothing!
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Teddy is Canadian. Born and raised for 5 years. Just gave up his citizenship a few years ago.

Surprised so many Americans would vote for a Canadian as president
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Canadians are good people, so his birthplace won't hurt him.
It's his sad lack of a spine which has turned him into a hapless blob, groveling at Trump's feet.
Nobody likes blobs.
 
Blue Dog said:
Ben Sasse would be an excellent choice.
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He's not servile enough towards Trump to get the nomination.
"Loyalty" towards the Donald seems to be the key to winning in the GOP.
Hopefully.....maybe....that is changing.
 
The Old Soul said:
If (when) Liz gets kicked to the curb in her primary, that may open more doors than it closes for her.

As an uncommitted independent who votes the person and neither for or against the party, and given the total bozo's the big two keep pushing in our faces, I would vote for Cheney if she ran as a D, R, or Independent.

Instead of some ancient empty suit vote-monger, she has demonstrated her ability to think clearly, act logically, and mostly, respect the office she would be running for.
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Nothing wrong with Joe. He is doing a great job.
 
radioman said:
Canadians are good people, so his birthplace won't hurt him.
It's his sad lack of a spine which has turned him into a hapless blob, groveling at Trump's feet.
Nobody likes blobs.
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I would have thought being born outside the US would have been an issue. Heck he was a Canadian citizen up until a few years ago
 
Airyaman said:
Haha the OP...sure, there are other "conservatives" but Trump knows his base. He turned a nothing burger search warrant into moral outrage and the cult of MAGA is back in full force.

Who really broke the story of the FBI at Mar-a-Lago? Trump.
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1. MAGA and “moral” anything are concepts at complete odds with each other.
2. MAGA at “full force” lost in ‘20, and has only become weaker since.

**** the anti American, anti patriotic MAGA movement.
 
americanwoman said:
That's the problem with putting all your stock is a toddler. Eventually the people want an adult running the show but the toddler has taken away a large base and uses that to keep himself relevant.
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analysis:true
 
Loulit01 said:
I think Cruz wants to be President of Mexico. Or at least of Cancun.
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I've applied for the job of mayor of Cancun.
I've got more credibility than Raphael Cruz.
I think I'd make a kick-ass Latin American strongman.
My first move would be to ban all those pesky high school grads from mucking up the place on their stupid senior trips.
Secondly, free Cuba Libres for all!!
Viva radioman!!
 
Pappy is finally coming to terms with the fact that the GOP might need a new candidate for reasons
 
Deuce said:
Pappy is finally coming to terms with the fact that the GOP might need a new candidate for reasons
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He does seem to have a heavy heart today.
I don't think he's called anyone a "commie" today....yet....but its pretty early out west.
 
Grandpappy said:
Even if the insane opposition is successful in keeping Trump from running, we have lots of great candidates. Any one of which is ten times the administrator of the current clown. What the Democrats fail to understand is their policies are failures. Trump's not the boogyman. Your downfall will be due to the current trajectory of the Democratic party.

Watch it happen, even without Trump in the picture.
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The good competent people don't want the job. It's the ruthless ambitious Hawleys, Cruzes, and Scotts--the literal "as*hole" of Congress who want the Presidency so bad they can taste it.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
I would have thought being born outside the US would have been an issue. Heck he was a Canadian citizen up until a few years ago
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Cruz had dual citizenship. Because his mother was born in the United States, Ted’s American citizenship was automatic.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Cruz had dual citizenship. Because his mother was born in the United States, Ted’s American citizenship was automatic.
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Yes I know,

It did not seem to matter to nut jobs and Obama
 
Mr Person said:
You think Trump is not going to be in the picture anymore? What's the change in tune about?

At any rate, you would not have noticed because Fox did not tell you to, but Americans aren't actually happy with either party. It's just that the GOP has gone batshit and evil, so Democrats' bumbles tend to seem less important. It's just that our method of voting pretty much guarantees two parties, and those two parties also happen to have done their best to build the mechanics of politics to increase that probability.

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Like what? Obamacare did even better than the people who passed it expected. Etc. Don't worry, I know you won't be able to answer with anything that isn't a bumper sticker. They've probably given you the name of a "policy" and a label, like "socialist", without telling you any of the details.
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The prospect of an orange jumpsuit to match his orange hair.
 
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