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You know its very hard. LOL

Umm, he's the president elect and a former president.
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Um, he's the leader of the free world - filling the void left by Quid Pro, who has oozed back into the sewer.

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Trump lied?

Nothing to indicate such a thing.

Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet.

But that won't stop the DP drones and the little Goebbels of the DNC propaganda corps.

Shocked and amazed.

To think of it; a man who has lied all his adult life. Documented to have made false statements or straight out fabrications over THIRTY-THREE THOUSAND times during his last term of office actually told a fib.

Who’d a thunk it? I mean really, what a surprise.

And who could blame anyone for not seeing that coming. I mean, it’s not like even if common sense wasn’t right there to tell you it’s not like a whole bunch of us were screaming at you at the top of our lungs. I mean, had we one might think you’d take a moment and consider the consequences of, even if Trump represented all your political dreams, what electing such a man would mean of those dreams ever taking place.

One can totally understand if this takes Trump supporters by surprise. After all, like I said, who could have possibly seen it coming?

Have the Marxists here ever read the fable of the "Boy who cried wolf?"

There is a reason that the MSM has a whopping 18% trust from the public.
 
Its what he ran on.

You made a false claim - got corrected - demanded a cite - were shown to be fabricating slander to defame the object of insanity for democrats - then started flinging unrelated claims.

I think it's called "a meltdown."

You lost, America won - try again in 4 years.

I accept your concession that you were wrong.

You directly lying does not make others wrong - even though you hate Donald Trump with all your heart.
 
You made a false claim - got corrected - demanded a cite - were shown to be fabricating slander to defame the object of insanity for democrats - then started flinging unrelated claims.

I think it's called "a meltdown."

You lost, America won - try again in 4 years.

You directly lying does not make others wrong - even though you hate Donald Trump with all your heart.

America win by electing a felon?
 
Of course we knew he was lying.
 
Is he or is he not a convicted felon?

He is not - not until sentenced. Though your party cries - the case will be dismissed. It is based on fraud - as you well know - in order to thwart free and fair elections - democrats hate nothing more than democracy.
 
This is your evidence?
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I guess you must not realize foreign leaders inviting US president-elects is neither new nor supports your premise.

Reality is a bitter pill for the Marxists to swallow.




Pretending is all the Marxists have left at this point - well that an hoping America fails.
Ooh, the first point was so daft you felt the need to repeat I see. Did you think the president-elect just hung out until January? Nope. They're busy prepping with the outgoing administration's transition team and meeting with dignitaries who may have pressing issues to discuss that may crossover to the new administration.
 
Most likely the same group that laughed at him the first time around - remember that time at the UN?

Also included would be your allies and trade partners that trump is threatening with nonsense tariffs and leaving alliances.

And then there's the ones that simply prefer more presidential presidents.

Bud, the list is forever long. Again, needing to deal with the reality of what the American voter thrust upon the world does not equate to respect. Your dude is essentially white trash with a big bank account. Let's not pretend he's more, k?




Trump stays out of wars by kicking cans. His influence the first time around was utterly meaningless, given that pretty much everything he bragged about went back to the way it was once he was out of office. Even your enemies know they simply need to wait out your term limits to resume doing whatever they please. Trump is like eating chinese food ... yeah, you feel full when you leave, but you're hungry 30 minutes later.



No, sorry, they are not. Your president is a pig. That's how the non-pig world sees him. I will concede that other pigs do like him and welcome his return. You know, the guys you normally look at as enemies? Yeah, those guys. They think he's great.
Bud, all you offer is a Bad Orange Man rant filled with unsupported vapid rhetoric and demagoguery. The tariffs you mock drove the Chinese to a phase 1 trade agreement with the promise of more to come. The NATO General Secretary publicly praised Trump for inducing deadbeat allies to up their military spending by 100's of billions.

Do tell us Bud, the specific wars Trump "kicked the can" instead of immersing the US into another Neocon dream. Ask the Iranians if Trump kicked the can on their minister of terror.

You can't even remember that you claimed the US has the biggest army not the most powerful.

I note the absence of specific countries named in your rhetoric. Bud, it's all vapor
 
You made a false claim - got corrected - demanded a cite - were shown to be fabricating slander to defame the object of insanity for democrats - then started flinging unrelated claims.

This didn't happen and your chain of understanding is completely detached from reality.

I think it's called "a meltdown."

You lost, America won - try again in 4 years.

You directly lying does not make others wrong - even though you hate Donald Trump with all your heart.

This is rambling nonsense.
 
Bud, all you offer is a Bad Orange Man rant filled with unsupported vapid rhetoric and demagoguery. The tariffs you mock drove the Chinese to a phase 1 trade agreement with the promise of more to come. The NATO General Secretary publicly praised Trump for inducing deadbeat allies to up their military spending by 100's of billions.

Do tell us Bud, the specific wars Trump "kicked the can" instead of immersing the US into another Neocon dream. Ask the Iranians if Trump kicked the can on their minister of terror.

You can't even remember that you claimed the US has the biggest army not the most powerful.

I note the absence of specific countries named in your rhetoric. Bud, it's all vapor

Did or did not Trump get laughed at at the UN? I can pull the video if your memory fails you.

And most powerful = biggest. Yes, I know China has more soldiers. Let's not split hairs over stupid shit that doesn't matter. You think China could beat you in a fight? C'mon, this should be an obviously weak part of your argument, let it go.

But for that reason, yes, people feign respect and attempt to appeal to his ego. It's not that hard to understand. An abusive father enjoys being obeyed and called sir more than a loving tolerant father, because he uses fear and pain to achieve those results. However, once the child no longer depends on the father, there is no relationship there. No love, no care. It's the loving father that didn't beat the shit out of his kids that gets that.

The fact is, Trump is simply not admirable. He's vulgar, he's incompetent, he lies constantly, he is without class, and he uses the tactics of weaker people because he does not have the personality nor the intelligence to wield his massive power to its full potential.

So, if there's nothing to admire, there's only two possible explanations as to why other world leaders would seem to. Either they're as shitty as he is, or they're pretending, because they're smart enough to recognize that that's all they have to do to further their own agendas for as long as Trump gets to hold his power, which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't all that long. 🤷‍♂️
 
Um, he's the leader of the free world - filling the void left by Quid Pro, who has oozed back into the sewer.

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america first? doesnt sound like a leader of the free world. That would require someone with actual leadership skills, not just the ability to sign executive orders.
especially with him with pandering to leaders from the not-so-free countries like north korea and russia.

of course, anyone who uses the "quid pro quo" stupidity isn't to be taken seriously.
 
america first? doesnt sound like a leader of the free world. That would require someone with actual leadership skills, not just the ability to sign executive orders.
especially with him with pandering to leaders from the not-so-free countries like north korea and russia.

of course, anyone who uses the "quid pro quo" stupidity isn't to be taken seriously.

So, "NUHN UHN" then?
 
Bud, all you offer is a Bad Orange Man rant filled with unsupported vapid rhetoric and demagoguery. The tariffs you mock drove the Chinese to a phase 1 trade agreement with the promise of more to come. The NATO General Secretary publicly praised Trump for inducing deadbeat allies to up their military spending by 100's of billions.

Do tell us Bud, the specific wars Trump "kicked the can" instead of immersing the US into another Neocon dream. Ask the Iranians if Trump kicked the can on their minister of terror.

You can't even remember that you claimed the US has the biggest army not the most powerful.

I note the absence of specific countries named in your rhetoric. Bud, it's all vapor

Two years ago, President Donald Trump signed what he called a "historical trade deal" with China that committed China to purchase $200 billion of additional US exports before December 31, 2021. Today the only undisputed "historical" aspect of that agreement is its failure. One lesson is not to make deals that cannot be fulfilled when unforeseen events inevitably occur—in this case, a pandemic and a recession. Another is not to forget the complementary policies needed to give an agreement a chance to succeed.

In the end, China bought only 58 percent of the US exports it had committed to purchase under the agreement, not even enough to reach its import levels from before the trade war.[1] Put differently, China bought none of the additional $200 billion of exports Trump's deal had promised.

is that the trade deal you are bragging about?

more trump failures.
 
Don’t be sad, Nate, seriously. It was just an election and, despite some hysterical claims to the contrary, we’ll be doing all this again before you know it.

This has nothing to do with it just being an election and everything to do with the damage that Trump has caused to our political system and what damage he can do wielding presidential power. Elections are not the focus, governance is. As Trump supporters love to crow, elections ahave consequences. It is the consequences causing the concern. And it is concerning that the voters can be easily won over by a demagogue and believe that they are helping our country by giving him power.
 
uh, no, if you are openly "america first" that doesn't translate well into "leader of the free world".

ROFL

Are you saying JFK and Bill Clinton were not "America First?"


The deep seated hatred for America from the democrat party was not really open until the Obama years.
 
The difference is that Biden didnt care. Trump does. And the further point is that the American people believed that trump was better able to handle the country than was Harris. The Biden administration was a Carter-level failure and the dems paid the price for that in November.

Trump doesn’t care. Except about getting attention and enriching himself through corruption. Trump has shown he only care about billionaires who will pay their tribute to him.
 
Most likely the same group that laughed at him the first time around - remember that time at the UN?

Also included would be your allies and trade partners that trump is threatening with nonsense tariffs and leaving alliances.

And then there's the ones that simply prefer more presidential presidents.

Bud, the list is forever long. Again, needing to deal with the reality of what the American voter thrust upon the world does not equate to respect. Your dude is essentially white trash with a big bank account. Let's not pretend he's more, k?




Trump stays out of wars by kicking cans. His influence the first time around was utterly meaningless, given that pretty much everything he bragged about went back to the way it was once he was out of office. Even your enemies know they simply need to wait out your term limits to resume doing whatever they please. Trump is like eating chinese food ... yeah, you feel full when you leave, but you're hungry 30 minutes later.



No, sorry, they are not. Your president is a pig. That's how the non-pig world sees him. I will concede that other pigs do like him and welcome his return. You know, the guys you normally look at as enemies? Yeah, those guys. They think he's great.
Another correct analysis.

You did leave out that he's threatening to violate the same agreement he signed with MEX/CAN. Further proving his word isn't worth the saliva he manufactured to slur it.
 
He is not - not until sentenced. Though your party cries - the case will be dismissed. It is based on fraud - as you well know - in order to thwart free and fair elections - democrats hate nothing more than democracy.
Yes, he is. X34. Deny all you want to. It's what you people are really good at. The man should have been thrown in prison 2 years ago. Send Garland a Christmas card. In the meantime, all of Americans will be suffering big time. You MAGA just don't realize yet. But trust me, you will.
 
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