You can learn about white history in Florida every day. ron desantis just stopped advanced placement African-American studies in Florida.

[Fletch]

Well, just like your ability to support your positions, you're simply very bad at it.

But that never stopped you before amirite?

No you are not right. Like I said, you either dont know what the word means or you are lying

I gave multiple examples of government expansion under the direction of conservatives, and when pressed, you backed away and tried to make everything about me. When that failed, you tried to make it about you.

Now you are bqack to lying. What you claimed to be evidence was not evidence of anything other than your ignorance on the topic. You are confusing bad fiscal policy with big government. Intentionally no doubt to cover for the fact that there isnt a big government action or program that you oppose.. It isnt the right coming up with things like Obamacare or banning products or empowering the regulatory state. Thats you guys. Republicans arent perfect by any means, but they are not the drivers of expanding federal power. That is the left. And its not even close. Pretending otherwise is just gaslighting on your part.

Now we get to watch you painfully wallow on.

Another lie. You are on a roll.

Except when Republicans increase the size and scope of government, you try to rationalize this expansion out of sheer desperateness, and when all else fails, try to troll your way out of this exchange.

And you wrap it all up with......another lie. Now head back to the Borg Mothership and get your instructions for tomorrow.

 

[Bucky]

UK is a different country, black citizens and their history is part of our country...why are you insistent on acting like they are from somewhere else?

If you want to include "black history," shouldn't we get rid of Black history month in February, a month dedicated to black history?

 

[Kushinator]

What you claimed to be evidence was not evidence of anything other than your ignorance on the topic.

Why, because you say so and desperately want to present the notion of small government conservatism?

You are confusing bad fiscal policy with big government.

Your opionion on fiscal policy is irrelevant. Republicans have a history of growing the size and scope of government while maintaining to their base that they are trying to cut spending and shrink government.

When it comes to action, they NEVER follow through, and the only time they push to cut government spending is when they lose elections. Suddenly, government is too big because voters didn't buy their rhetoric.

Republicans arent perfect by any means, but they are not the drivers of expanding federal power.

Republicans are hypocrites who are trying to hold onto what political power they have left. One of the ways they do so is by convincing ignorant conservatives that they are actually the party of small government, when history shows this isn't anything remotely accurate.

That is the left. And its not even close. Pretending otherwise is just gaslighting on your part.

Democrats never pretend to be the party of small government. Your strawman has no power, just like your lame excuses.

Another lie

And you wrap it all up with......another lie.

I've demonstrated the validity of these claims. Obviously you disagree... but who cares?

Like i've pointed out multiple times; you're very bad at supporting your arguments.

 

[ClaraD]

I still don't understand what is "black history."

Stop acting obtuse.

 

[ClaraD]

You act like I am not a product of the public school system.

If you are a product of homeschooling, we have a prime example of why some kids shouldn't be homeschooled.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This thread is ridiculous.

There is no such thing as African American history. Only American history.

Yes, but the left seeks to divide and conquer. The agenda of the left is to foment and exasperate the differences among Americans so that we are too busy fighting each other to fight them.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you had actually bothered to look at the curriculum, you would know the answer to your question...

Oh?

Why don't you share the curriculum for the class?

 

[Manc Skipper]

Americans don't have so much history that they can afford to whitewash what little they do have.

 

[bomberfox]

So we shouldn’t teach about the triumph of the civil rights movement over the lynch and segregation culture in certain states? We don’t have time when discussing the industrial revolution (as you suggest) to mention the move towards the 8-hour workday that the Haymarket incident was about? That event was so significant that May Day is celebrated in just about every country in the world, except perhaps the US and Canada. Why not merely mention that in the context of your suggestion to teach about the Cold War, as an example of US’s sometimes paranoiac reaction to the Soviet Union. We could even note that Catholic Church celebrates May 1 as the feast of St. Joseph the Worker, such is the significance of the date world wide. (My fave strange reaction was that the Cincinnati Reds even changed their name to the Redlegs for a few years in the 1950s, tho given your concerns about space in the curriculum that could just be a footnote to explain how silly we got in those times.)

The whole reason desantis doesnt want this taught is because the klukkers who helped him against Gillium want to bring it back.

 

[Galactic Spin]

I see DeSantis is starting to feel the heat over his overture to racists. Being the sort sighted moron he is, he will look at his victory margin in 2022 and give everyone the middle finger.

Yesss.... good...

 

[Uncensored2008]

The reason why it is needed is that our textbooks have intentionally excluded black history in our textbooks.

Bullshit.

First off, there is no such thing as "black" history. History is history.

The attempt by the left to segregate history is in order to foment hatred and racism - which is the foundational principle of the democrat party.

None of us learned about the Tuskegee project,

False, in 11th grade we watched a documentary with Bill Cosby exploring the syphilis experiments. That was 1974.

none of us learned about Emmitt Till, none of us learned about the Tulsa Massacre, none of us learned about the Orangeburg massacre. We learned even less about Native American Indian history or languages. You would be hard-pressed to find any Native languages taught off the reservation. Why is that?
That doesn't even get into the history of Asians or Latinos in this country.

It's not that democrats don't know anything - it's just that most of what democrats "know" is simply not true.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Our textbooks don't exclude black history. Do you understand students still learn about the civil war and read to Kill a Mockingbird?

You act like people in school don't get taught about MLK Jr

Jeez.

Leftists have an agenda.

That leaves no room for integrity.

 

[Bodecea]

Leftists have an agenda.

That leaves no room for integrity.

MAGAts have an agenda.
That leaves no room for integrity....or a soul...or a spine.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So....in other words....you just got caught LYING, and you know it.

The next time a fascist tells the truth will be the first time.

What is it you claim I "lied" about?

And, like most of your white-grievance ilk, you lack the decency (or just the balls) to admit that you lied.

Ohh look, racism - that gives you true power - right?

You spewing racist epithets is guaranteed to make me crumble before the mighty democrat Reich.

Got it.

But I gotta tell ya....I already knew this about you people BEFORE I decided to gut your ignorant-arsed argument.

Bottom line here is this: There were DOZENS of Nazi/Neo-Nazi/White-Nationalist signs at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. Your claim that "One idiot brought a Nazi flag - yes - the fascist media took hundreds of angles and attempted to make it look like there were bunches".....has been exposed as an IGNORANT WHITE-GRIEVANCE LIE.

Obviously, you will NOT rebut the FACTS presented (in the form of VERIFIABLE PHOTOS from the Charlottesville rally).....because you CANNOT rebut them. Hence, the pathetic, ignorant deflection from you, above.

Sucks to be you, huh?

....no one gives a rat's butt about what people like you think.

You just got b-slapped in the face with FACTS. Your response has been entirely predictable.

Sure there were..

And Sarah Palin said she could "see Russia from her house."

I mean, Nazi democrats don't blatantly lie to defame enemies of the democrat Reich - do they?

 

[j brown's body]

Leftists have an agenda.

That leaves no room for integrity.

What's the "agenda?"

 

[j brown's body]

Yes, but the left seeks to divide and conquer. The agenda of the left is to foment and exasperate the differences among Americans so that we are too busy fighting each other to fight them.

So the banning of teaching about black history but not other histories isn't fomenting and exasperating the differences?

I mean, you can't get much more racist than that unless you arrest blacks for trying to vote after allowing them to register.

 

[Uncensored2008]

More ignorant DEFLECTION from you.

Can't back up anything you say, I see.

Gee.....I'm "shocked".

But you can't run from your white-grievance ignorance and LIES simply by deflecting and dissembling, @Uncensored2008.

If you were a dog, you'd be showing me your belly right now.

Nearly anything said or posted by a democrat is a lie.

We all know that.

Accepting unsourced and uncited pictures from some unknown Nazi hate site would be utterly foolish.

democrats lie about everything - always.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I see DeSantis is starting to feel the heat over his overture to racists. Being the sort sighted moron he is, he will look at his victory margin in 2022 and give everyone the middle finger.

Yesss.... good...

The delusions of leftists..

 

[Uncensored2008]

What's the "agenda?"

End the constitutional Republican and establish a totalitarian, collectivist state in the mold of Communist China.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So the banning of teaching about black history but not other histories isn't fomenting and exasperating the differences?

Lying is rarely a means to discover fact and reality.

When leftists begin by lying, there is no fact behind them.

I mean, you can't get much more racist than that unless you arrest blacks for trying to vote after allowing them to register.

What you claim is false, as you well know - come back with an honest argument and I'll debate it. Lies will simply be identified for what they are.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So the banning of teaching about black history but not other histories isn't fomenting and exasperating the differences?

I mean, you can't get much more racist than that unless you arrest blacks for trying to vote after allowing them to register.

One thing the racist and fascist democrats fear is examination of the actual curriculum.

And of course the Educational Industrial Complex has refused to let lawmakers see an actual syllabus - it's doubtful they actually have one beyond hatred of whites.

But what we DO know is that race baiter Henry Gates is behind this - we remember the hoax in the Obama years where Gates defamed police officers.

Anyway

{With the caveat that the course is still in development, and that he only plays an advisory role in determining its content, Dr. Gates said that he was “sincerely hoping” that the course would not ignore teaching about controversial subjects, like critical race theory or the 1619 Project. The 1619 Project, developed by The New York Times, sought to reframe the country’s history by putting the consequences of slavery and the contributions of Black Americans at the center of the national narrative. Dr. Gates said that rather than being part of the theoretical framework of the course itself, those topics could be part of a unit “teaching different theories of the African American experience.” There could, for example, “be a course on Marxist approaches to race,” Dr. Gates said, adding, “and most certainly I would imagine something on critical race theory and maybe something on the 1619 Project.” He said: “This hypothetical unit would discuss the controversies over different interpretive frameworks used to analyze the history of race in America. I am certainly not advocating employing those theories as interpretive frameworks for the course itself. That’s a big difference.”}

Hmmm. what could cause the Florida Legislature to deny this?

It's racist AND Marxist - precisely what democrats want to foist upon high school students.

 

[ultmd]

I still don't understand what is "black history."

.....words that ONLY come from white-grievance conservatives.

This is not a surprise.

Fortunately, well-chronicled academic subjects such as Black/African-American History require neither the understanding nor acceptance of people like you....to exist.

Yours is an argument that (at best) comes from someone who doesn't appreciate history.

At best.

 

[ultmd]

The next time a fascist tells the truth will be the first time.

....I think I've just been called "ugly"...,.by a BULLFROG!

Just fyi (much under-educated friend).....Fascism is an ultra-RIGHT ideology. IOW....it's your "home base".

Being called "fascist", by an ACTUAL Fascist.....is some pretty rich stuff. Reminds me of the rhetorical tactics of LITERALLY EVERY major fascist movement in the 20th century. From Hitler's Nazis.....to Mussolini's Italy....to Franco's Spain....etc.....ACTUAL FASCISTS have always accused those who advocated for (small-L) liberal democracy of being the extremists and the authoritarians.

So in your case, this was definitely a "tell" (not that there was really any doubt about who/what you are, anyway).

What is it you claim I "lied" about?

Pretending to be a moron is not an effective debate tactic, my friend.

You've lied about objectively verifiable information at least twice in this thread. And I've noted it each time. Go back and re-read my previous remarks.

Or, continue to pretend to be too stupid to understand.

Makes no difference to me. You are, after all.....exactly what you have shown yourself to be in this thread.

Ohh look, racism - that gives you true power - right?

LOL....I think the "power" gap between us was pretty obvious already, my friend.

You spewing racist epithets is guaranteed to make me crumble before the mighty democrat Reich.

Your words sound more and more like a Nazi's each new set of remarks.

Sure there were..

And Sarah Palin said she could "see Russia from her house."

....More DEFLECTION from you, I see.

So again....bottom line: the Charlottesville Rally was LITERALLY FILLED with signs and slogans sympathetic to white-supremacy and white-nationalism....held up by white-supremacists and white-nationalists spewing ignorant, bigoted, fascistic rhetoric.

You HAVE NOT been able to rebut that FACT.....and you WILL NOT ever rebut that FACT....because you CANNOT rebut that FACT.

Everything else from you is just ignorant noise (i.e. DEFLECTION).

I mean, Nazi democrats don't blatantly lie to defame enemies of the democrat Reich - do they?

Ah yes....there it is....@uncensored2008 's CONSPIRACY THEORY for this thread!

You just couldn't help yourself, huh? When cornered, you ALWAYS resort to an ignorant, lazy-arsed CT, of some sort.

 

[Uncensored2008]

....I think I've just been called "ugly"...,.by a BULLFROG!

Just fyi (much under-educated friend).....Fascism is an ultra-RIGHT ideology. IOW....it's your "home base".

ROFL

Typical exchange with a democrat:

democrat: Fascism is right wing
American: What makes it right wing?
d: Because it's fascist
A: Okay, but what makes fascism right wing?
d: because it's capitalist
A: Weren’t Mussolini and Hitler collectivists with the state controlling the means of production?
d: They were corporatists
A: So they sold stock in an exchange?
d: well, there were private owners
A: So there was no exchange or stock involved like a corporation would use?
d: greedy Capitalists pigs
A: but there was no stock for the public to buy and ownership was set by the party that ruled the government?
d: see - capitalists
A: Government controlling the means of production is capitalism?
d: Racist
A: isn't racism a collectivist concept? The denial of individualism in favor of group identity?
d: Racism is right wing
A: From the trail of tears, slavery, the Klan, Jim Crow, to BLM, haven't the democrats been behind virtually all racism in America?
d: Democrats were Republicans back then
A: That's just stupid. Back to fascism.
d: Fascism is right wing
A: Fascism holds that the state - the government, is supreme. Isn't that what democrats claim?
d: Republicans are fascists
A: Don't Republicans advocate for individual civil rights?
d: We need courts to make laws at the federal level to ensure rights for women by imposing law from the top
A: shouldn't people decide for themselves on a state by state basis?
d: You're destroying democracy

Being called "fascist", by an ACTUAL Fascist.....is some pretty rich stuff. Reminds me of the rhetorical tactics of LITERALLY EVERY major fascist movement in the 20th century. From Hitler's Nazis.....to Mussolini's Italy....to Franco's Spain....etc.....ACTUAL FASCISTS have always accused those who advocated for (small-L) liberal democracy of being the extremists and the authoritarians.

I mean, a collectivist economy that denies individualism is super "right wing," because reasons.

So in your case, this was definitely a "tell" (not that there was really any doubt about who/what you are, anyway).


Pretending to be a moron is not an effective debate tactic, my friend.

You've lied about objectively verifiable information at least twice in this thread. And I've noted it each time. Go back and re-read my previous remarks.

Or, continue to pretend to be too stupid to understand.

Makes no difference to me. You are, after all.....exactly what you have shown yourself to be in this thread.


LOL....I think the "power" gap between us was pretty obvious already, my friend.


Your words sound more and more like a Nazi's each new set of remarks.


....More DEFLECTION from you, I see.

So again....bottom line: the Charlottesville Rally was LITERALLY FILLED with signs and slogans sympathetic to white-supremacy and white-nationalism....held up by white-supremacists and white-nationalists spewing ignorant, bigoted, fascistic rhetoric.

You HAVE NOT been able to rebut that FACT.....and you WILL NOT ever rebut that FACT....because you CANNOT rebut that FACT.

Everything else from you is just ignorant noise (i.e. DEFLECTION).

Ah yes....there it is....@uncensored2008 's CONSPIRACY THEORY for this thread!

You just couldn't help yourself, huh? When cornered, you ALWAYS resort to an ignorant, lazy-arsed CT, of some sort.

Oh my, should it be illegal to be white?

Maybe democrats can come up with some sort of camps to concentrate the hated whites in until they can come up with some sore of "final solution?"

 

[ultmd]

Nearly anything said or posted by a democrat is a lie.

PROJECTION.

In the REALITY-BASED WORLD.....Nearly everything said or posted from a white-grievance fascist types is a lie.

That's a well-documented fact.

We all know that.

....if by "we", you mean "anti-intellectual, FauxNews-loving, white-grievance types like me, and NO ONE ELSE"......then you might be correct.

Otherwise..........you're making a fool of yourself, here.

Accepting unsourced and uncited pictures from some unknown Nazi hate site would be utterly foolish.

Still MORE PROJECTION, from the white-grievance fascist.

I guess you'll say/do almost ANYTHING to avoid/deflect from the FACT that you can't defend your own ignorant LIES in this thread, huh?