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Rich2018 said:
One gun or 100...it's still the same problem.
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You need to speak to your comrades who claim the problem is a quantifiable one. "Too many." Obviously you disagree.
 
Glitch said:
Fascism was defined by its creator, the devote socialist Benito Mussolini. Who defined it in "The Manifesto of the Italian Fasces of Combat" in 1919, a.k.a. "Fascism Manifesto," as "[a]ll within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." That is entirely a leftist philosophy. The same one that Hitler used in Germany. Which explains why Germany and Italy were such close allies during the 1930s and 1940s after Hitler became Chancellor.

It is the leftist philosophy of fascism that caused Mousilini, Hilter, Stalin, Mao, FDR, and Pol Pot to kill more than 100 million people during the last century, and there continued adherence to that sick and twisted leftist policy is what make leftists pieces of shit (or simply "filth" to save time typing) to this very day.
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Fascism is extreme right wing politics, not left wing.
 
Glitch said:
FDR was included in the list of fascists because, like Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, FDR also created concentration camps where he illegally put American citizens, stealing their property and killing tens of thousands in the process. So why would he be excluded? FDR was a well-established fascist. Only a fascist would completely replace the entire Supreme Court when they ruled against him, which is precisely what FDR did between 1937 and 1943.
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FDR is included in the list of fascists by people who don't know what fascism is
Do you think Hitler and Stalin were "Liberals" ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Fascism is extreme right wing politics, not left wing.
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Either side can be guilty if facism if they are trying to inhibit rights and liberties and control the populace. Gun control is a form of fascism
 
Rich2018 said:
He's not a vigilante

But it's a worry trait when shopkeepers feel the need to arm themselves with guns. They don't in Japan - why do you think that is ?
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Ah, the 'ol "look at Japan" go-to argument. Japan has a lot less OVERALL crime than the U.S., so your comparison is moot. Japan has a completely different culture than we do. If you cut out all crime involving guns, the U.S. is still WAY ahead of Japan. Way less theft and other crimes. They just don't raise shitty people there and their population is very homogeneous. Argue all you want but that has ALOT to do with low crime rates.
 
Maidenrules29 said:
Rich, even the Democratic Mayor in N.Y. is criticizing the bail policy
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And in some cases, he would have a point.

Maidenrules29 said:
Either side can be guilty if facism if they are trying to inhibit rights and liberties and control the populace. Gun control is a form of fascism
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A "side" that does this is no longer democratic.

Maidenrules29 said:
Ah, the 'ol "look at Japan" go-to argument. Japan has a lot less OVERALL crime than the U.S., so your comparison is moot. Japan has a completely different culture than we do. If you cut out all crime involving guns, the U.S. is still WAY ahead of Japan. Way less theft and other crimes. They just don't raise shitty people there and their population is very homogeneous. Argue all you want but that has ALOT to do with low crime rates.
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"In 2018, Japan, a country of 125 million people, only reported NINE deaths from firearms -- compared with 39,740 that year in the United States, according to data compiled by the Sydney School of Public Health at the University of Sydney."

www.cnn.com

Japan's strict gun laws make shootings rare | CNN

The assassination of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has shocked Japan, a country with one of the world's lowest rates of gun crime due to its strict laws on gun ownership.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com


That's just NINE
You can't whitewash that by simply saying that the Japanese respect the law more.
 
Rich2018 said:
And in some cases, he would have a point.



A "side" that does this is no longer democratic.



"In 2018, Japan, a country of 125 million people, only reported NINE deaths from firearms -- compared with 39,740 that year in the United States, according to data compiled by the Sydney School of Public Health at the University of Sydney."

www.cnn.com

Japan's strict gun laws make shootings rare | CNN

The assassination of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has shocked Japan, a country with one of the world's lowest rates of gun crime due to its strict laws on gun ownership.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com


That's just NINE
You can't whitewash that by simply saying that the Japanese respect the law more.
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The Japanese don't want guns, because their government has forbidden them, and they are a populace largely subservient to their government.

Not us.

Their criminals mostly don't want guns, because the penalties can be so severe.

Our criminals couldn't give a ****, for a few reasons.
 
Rich2018 said:
And I'm sure "red" cities/towns have a less than perfect record in this regard.
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Your sarcasm is actually somewhat warranted. The meth heads in town come and go through a revolving door.
 
Maidenrules29 said:
That makes no sense. We live in America. What is "spending time" in those countries going to do besides maybe seeing that they dont have as many violent criminals as we do here? America has a culture and criminal problem.
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Well you know what they say: the first step to fixing a problem is recognizing that there is one.
 
Rich2018 said:
And in some cases, he would have a point.



A "side" that does this is no longer democratic.



"In 2018, Japan, a country of 125 million people, only reported NINE deaths from firearms -- compared with 39,740 that year in the United States, according to data compiled by the Sydney School of Public Health at the University of Sydney."

www.cnn.com

Japan's strict gun laws make shootings rare | CNN

The assassination of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has shocked Japan, a country with one of the world's lowest rates of gun crime due to its strict laws on gun ownership.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com


That's just NINE
You can't whitewash that by simply saying that the Japanese respect the law more.
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Apparently you did not care to respond to the part where I said even if you cut out all crimes that are firearms related, that the United States is still way ahead of Japan crime-wise. they just breed WAY less criminals
 
Maidenrules29 said:
Apparently you did not care to respond to the part where I said even if you cut out all crimes that are firearms related, that the United States is still way ahead of Japan crime-wise. they just breed WAY less criminals
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OK
But I'd accept a society with minimal gun-related crime.
 
Rich2018 said:
OK
But I'd accept a society with minimal gun-related crime.
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You accept this society, even with its gun related crime. In fact, you went out of your way to move here and reside as our guest.
 
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