You are doing it again conservatives.

[Reformedfindlay]

But you see I didn't see it as a joke about frying illegals to death because I take people at what they mean and not what I want them to mean because they are eeeeeevil conservatives or Republicans or both.

Herman cain literally said it was a joke...

This seemed to have skipped over your head, this is why he went out of the run for president.

 

[Reformedfindlay]

As will I.

And, the both of us relenting is much more than what we will ever get out of James. HaHa.

He's extreme.

 

[LowDown]

So Obama is not that popular. Most second term presidents are loathed the second term. The right wing base is outraged by what has happened with gay marriage, The ACA, Benghazi, The IRS scandal, The VA scandal and the liberal nature of younger voters on social issues. So with this tsunami of goodness pointing to a right wing gain this fall what does the GOP do? Doubles down on the very things that got them defeated in the past. They has basically given up on the female, Hispanic and young voting blocks with their stance on abortion, immigration and gay marriage. All I have to sat is good luck with that. Oh and good luck with that anti poor people BS your side is spewing and have been spewing over the last six years. That crap is another thing that makes the GOP look like goons. Good luck.

It truly warms my heart to see you so concerned about Republican prospects. But, really, shouldn't you be more concerned about the Democrats? They look like toast right now.

 

[tres borrachos]

I agree. I just think backward thinking is worse and at least the left represents the poor and middle class. The right is bought and paid for by big business so populism is not their strong point.

I'm middle class. The left doesn't represent me.

 

[tres borrachos]

Liberalism always wins in the end. That is a fact. You can jump ship and call yourself a independent all you want but as long as conservatives continue to hate on the poor while trying to act like working class hero's the left is going to win.

"Hate on the poor"?

Do you believe most of the nonsense you post?

 

[PoS]

I agree. I just think backward thinking is worse and at least the left represents the poor and middle class. The right is bought and paid for by big business so populism is not their strong point.

The left does not represent the middle class, they all are for destroying the middle class and the rich and to make them all poor so that everybody becomes government dependent.

 

[AlbqOwl]

Herman cain literally said it was a joke...

This seemed to have skipped over your head, this is why he went out of the run for president.

No. He said it was not a serious plan, and when accused of being insensitive when he used it as an illustration to make a point, he replied that people coming here illegally is what is insensitive. And that was not what ended his campaign. What ended his campaign was the hatchet job all those 'sensitive' Democrats did on him with unproved claims of sexual misconduct--it seems that is their preferred method of derailing a black man who they perceive as a threat. It's okay if Democrats do it--thus Bill Clinton wins the nomination and the Presidency. But not okay for a Republican, especially a religious black one.

For Romney, they hammered away on him being rich and being a Mormon. They must have been unsuccessful in finding a woman who would come forward and claim she had had an affair or that Romney had made improper advances on her.

 

[Reformedfindlay]

No. He said it was not a serious plan, and when accused of being insensitive when he used it as an illustration to make a point, he replied that people coming here illegally is what is insensitive. And that was not what ended his campaign. What ended his campaign was the hatchet job all those 'sensitive' Democrats did on him with unproved claims of sexual misconduct--it seems that is their preferred method of derailing a black man who they perceive as a threat. It's okay if Democrats do it--thus Bill Clinton wins the nomination and the Presidency. But not okay for a Republican, especially a religious black one.

For Romney, they hammered away on him being rich and being a Mormon. They must have been unsuccessful in finding a woman who would come forward and claim she had had an affair or that Romney had made improper advances on her.

Explain his direct response to the press "America needs to get a sense of humor"

Your going on to his immigration policy, I've stuck to the joke, don't get off-topic here to defend your interests.

 

[DrPepper]

It sure as hell is not the so called job makers AP. How have you been my friend?

We buy you every meal you eat. I would say that counts as friendship.

 

[AlbqOwl]

Explain his direct response to the press "America needs to get a sense of humor"

Your going on to his immigration policy, I've stuck to the joke, don't get off-topic here to defend your interests.

The 'joke' as you put it was re his immigration policy, about his immigration policy, related to his immigration policy, to illustrate his immigration policy, and I didn't get off topic in any way unless you were off topic when you brought it up. I have made my argument to set the story straight after the partisan attack machine made it into something that it was not. Just as you were quite wrong in your statement of why he suspended his campaign when he did. My interest, as you put it, is in setting the record straight as best as I can. I figure those running for office deserve honest criticism with the operative word being 'honest' instead of partisan hatchet jobs, deliberate misinformation, and/or the politics of personal destruction.

 

[Lakeside]

Bob. I though you where smarter than that. The left is made up of working class Americans who have been screwed over by corporate greed. The right is bought and paid for by those who want to cut wages, undermine unions and destroy the middle class. This has been going on since 1980. This myth about left wingers being lazy is just right wing propaganda in response to them being defeated over and over when they try to cut entitlements. Liberalism always wins in the end in spite of the rights constant bitching.

It is a good thing that Obama is letting all these illegals stay here in America. By those illegals staying here that will surely increase wages, expand unions and really help the middle class. NOT. Look how well Liberalism has helped Black Americans the past 60 years, and it has only gotten worse since Obama has been the LIAR IN CHIEF. Now I feel like a Liberal with upside down thinking after I wrote this. SMH.

 

[Naptyme]

I'm not saying it's right for every country, but it's right for the US. Our greatest era of growth and expansion coincided with free immigration.eace

I agree that the borders should be open but you have to understand this country is far removed from the country it was almost 100 years ago. Socialism + open borders would be a disaster. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Naptyme]

It is a good thing that Obama is letting all these illegals stay here in America. By those illegals staying here that will surely increase wages, expand unions and really help the middle class. NOT. Look how well Liberalism has helped Black Americans the past 60 years, and it has only gotten worse since Obama has been the LIAR IN CHIEF. Now I feel like a Liberal with upside down thinking after I wrote this. SMH.

This is something I find hilarious. You have all these people having to resort to minimum wage jobs due to the exodus of manufactoring jobs so we now have low wages and high unemployment so the left's answer to that is to bring in millions of more people further driving down wages and putting more people out of work. It is absolutely brilliant.

 

[Jack Hays]

I agree that the borders should be open but you have to understand this country is far removed from the country it was almost 100 years ago. Socialism + open borders would be a disaster. You can't have it both ways.

We have a lot more government than we had 100 years ago but we are far from socialism.eace

 

[Naptyme]

We have a lot more government than we had 100 years ago but we are far from socialism.eace

We may not be there yet but it is obvious that is the path the left is dragging this country.

I still believe that where we are at now as a country can not support open borders. We don't have the means to support the population we have much less add more.

 

[Jack Hays]

We may not be there yet but it is obvious that is the path the left is dragging this country.

I still believe that where we are at now as a country can not support open borders. We don't have the means to support the population we have much less add more.

The US is hardly overpopulated and the greatest period of economic growth in our history coincided with free immigration. Significant tax and regulatory reform would have to accompany open borders in order to free up the economy for growth.eace

 

[Reformedfindlay]

The 'joke' as you put it was re his immigration policy, about his immigration policy, related to his immigration policy, to illustrate his immigration policy, and I didn't get off topic in any way unless you were off topic when you brought it up. I have made my argument to set the story straight after the partisan attack machine made it into something that it was not. Just as you were quite wrong in your statement of why he suspended his campaign when he did. My interest, as you put it, is in setting the record straight as best as I can. I figure those running for office deserve honest criticism with the operative word being 'honest' instead of partisan hatchet jobs, deliberate misinformation, and/or the politics of personal destruction.

it was literally a joke... Whether it reflects his views on immigration means nothing.

You don't make a joke about electrocuting people, of course people will not find it funny.

I still stand to my point, Republican's favorable aspect is definitely not how they treat people, it's their fiscal responsibility preaching.

 

[Naptyme]

The US is hardly overpopulated and the greatest period of economic growth in our history coincided with free immigration. Significant tax and regulatory reform would have to accompany open borders in order to free up the economy for growth.eace

That is the point I am making. Good luck getting the tax and regulatory reforms needed to support open borders. I have more faith in Somalia putting a man on the moon before America ever gets any significant reforms done.

 

[AlbqOwl]

it was literally a joke... Whether it reflects his views on immigration means nothing.

You don't make a joke about electrocuting people, of course people will not find it funny.

I still stand to my point, Republican's favorable aspect is definitely not how they treat people, it's their fiscal responsibility preaching.

Well I disagree. I think Republicans are far superior to Democrats overall in how they treat people. And that would include Herman Cain and Mitt Romney. I can explain it for you but I can't understand it for you. And when you accuse Herman Cain of something and won't acknowledge you got it wrong when it is pointed out to you, it is obvious that trashing him is more important to you than what he actually meant. So we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Reformedfindlay]

Well I disagree. I think Republicans are far superior to Democrats overall in how they treat people. And that would include Herman Cain and Mitt Romney. I can explain it for you but I can't understand it for you. And when you accuse Herman Cain of something and won't acknowledge you got it wrong when it is pointed out to you, it is obvious that trashing him is more important to you than what he actually meant. So we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I'm not acknowledging I'm wrong when I'm not wrong you''re simply too biased to even consider another one's point let alone respect it.

 

[fmw]

I would think the republicans thank you for wishing them good luck.

 

[Conservative]

So Obama is not that popular. Most second term presidents are loathed the second term. The right wing base is outraged by what has happened with gay marriage, The ACA, Benghazi, The IRS scandal, The VA scandal and the liberal nature of younger voters on social issues. So with this tsunami of goodness pointing to a right wing gain this fall what does the GOP do? Doubles down on the very things that got them defeated in the past. They has basically given up on the female, Hispanic and young voting blocks with their stance on abortion, immigration and gay marriage. All I have to sat is good luck with that. Oh and good luck with that anti poor people BS your side is spewing and have been spewing over the last six years. That crap is another thing that makes the GOP look like goons. Good luck.

I guess the question that should be asked is why aren't you upset with the economic results of today, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, the VA scandal, the 17.6 trillion dollar debt, the numbers of discouraged workers, numbers of part time employees looking for full time work?

You seem to believe what the media tells you and ignore the reality, for example that all Hispanic voters aren't brain dead and rubber stamp Democrat voters and that Hispanic voters aren't happy with the Democrat rhetoric that never matches the Democrat results.

 

[Mycroft]

I guess the question that should be asked is why aren't you upset with the economic results of today, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, the VA scandal, the 17.6 trillion dollar debt, the numbers of discouraged workers, numbers of part time employees looking for full time work?

You seem to believe what the media tells you and ignore the reality, for example that all Hispanic voters aren't brain dead and rubber stamp Democrat voters and that Hispanic voters aren't happy with the Democrat rhetoric that never matches the Democrat results.

Because he's an Obama apologist who's only enjoyment on this forum is starting these troll bait threads.

 

[Objective Voice]

Why do you care, you're not going to vote republican anyway? In fact, that you're here ranting about it betrays that you think the GOP will be taking the midterms.

But isn't that the point James D Hill is trying to make? That with all the angst Republicans tend to throw at gays, immigrants, women and the poor, they miss opportunities to convert voters. Instead, they seem to go out of their way to alienate them.

Wasn't it clear from the 2016 Presidential election that instead of pushing likely voters away it's better to say and/or do things that would lure more voters across political lines to their bosom? Instead, it would appear that some within the Republican Party would rather stand firmly on hard-line conservative principles even if driving the hard line hasn't won them the big prize. But then again, perhaps winning back the White House isn't what they have in mind. Perhaps many Congressional and/or state representative Republicans truly believe that the best way forward is to retain power at the state legislative and federal congressional levels.

Things that make you go...Hmmmm....

 

[Conservative]

But isn't that the point James D Hill is trying to make? That with all the angst Republicans tend to throw at gays, immigrants, women and the poor, they miss opportunities to convert voters. Instead, they seem to go out of their way to alienate them.

Wasn't it clear from the 2016 Presidential election that instead of pushing likely voters away it's better to say and/or do things that would lure more voters across political lines to their bosom? Instead, it would appear that some within the Republican Party would rather stand firmly on hard-line conservative principles even if driving the hard line hasn't won them the big prize. But then again, perhaps winning back the White House isn't what they have in mind. Perhaps many Congressional and/or state representative Republicans truly believe that the best way forward is to retain power at the state legislative and federal congressional levels.

Things that make you go...Hmmmm....

things that make be go Hmmmm are how could anyone support the economic results we have today with Obama and how anyone could put social issues above economic issues? You people buy the media spin on gays that make up 3% of the population, give immigrants too little credit in understanding what is right and wrong, and the phony issue of war against women. 4 million fewer voters voted for Obama in 2012 and yet that incompetent still won re-election. Rather sad how many low information voters we have along with the numbers dependent on the Federal Govt. or should I say the taxpayers.