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Yet another "I told you all so" story.

Paradoxical said:
Yet another reportable comment. Good thing I don't run to the monitors.
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we all watch your threads and posts and see how much time you spend trying your best to prove to all of us that you're never, ever wrong.

it's pretty basic stuff.
 
Paradoxical said:
This was the excerpt from my post. Your post has nothing to do with my excerpt. Try harder Ethel.


"These states "had high age-adjusted death rates; they had high unemployment and significant GDP losses, and they kept their schools shut down much longer than almost all other states," the report added.

"The study verifies other studies which have found that locking down businesses, stores, churches, schools, and restaurants had almost no impact on health outcomes across states," the report determined. "States with strict lockdowns had virtually no better performance in COVID death rates than states that remained mostly open for business."
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You are talking about “age adjusted death rates”. There are many factors that go into that metric besides lockdown or no lockdown. Whether a state had a lockdown has little to do with your metric. Whether an infected person died from his or her infection could be related to vaccination status, age, presence of comorbidities, quality of local healthcare, race (people of color have less access to the best healthcare) etc. It’s highly likely that the single most important metric in determining death rate (deaths per million people) is simply the number of infections per million people. And the link I provided you with proves that most of the worst states in terms of both numbers of infections and deaths per capita are RED states, which generally had fewer lockdowns and suffered the consequences. If the CFR is relatively constant then the more people who get infected the more deaths per capita will result.
The data from Worldometers is the raw data. You don’t need obfuscating studies from Fox “news”.
 
Tlrmln said:
I'm sure you'll want to rethink your question, so I'll hold off answering.
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Still don't see it.

I don't have access to the original data-set. Perhaps you could elucidate?
 
Ethel2 said:
You are talking about “age adjusted death rates”. There are many factors that go into that metric besides lockdown or no lockdown. Whether a state had a lockdown has little to do with your metric. Whether an infected person died from his or her infection could be related to vaccination status, age, presence of comorbidities, quality of local healthcare, race (people of color have less access to the best healthcare) etc. It’s highly likely that the single most important metric in determining death rate (deaths per million people) is simply the number of infections per million people. And the link I provided you with proves that most of the worst states in terms of both numbers of infections and deaths per capita are RED states, which generally had fewer lockdowns and suffered the consequences. If the CFR is relatively constant then the more people who get infected the more deaths per capita will result.
The data from Worldometers is the raw data. You don’t need obfuscating studies from Fox “news”.
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I just heard a "whoosh" sound as what you said went over a head.
 
The Committee to Unleash Prosperity.

I giggled. These FOX people are cucks.
 
Hatuey said:
The Committee to Unleash Prosperity.

I giggled. These FOX people are cucks.
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That group is associated with the Koch brothers. We all know what their agenda is.
 
Ethel2 said:
That group is associated with the Koch brothers. We all know what their agenda is.
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Cuck: Hi, I'm from Ministry of Making Tons Of Money, I'm here to tell you that child labor is better than banning child slavery, and that I identify as a conservative.

FOX News People: Wow, this guy must know what he is talking about. Id like to hear more.
 
Hatuey said:
Cuck: Hi, I'm from Ministry of Making Tons Of Money, I'm here to tell you that child labor is better than banning child slavery, and that I identify as a conservative.

FOX News People: Wow, this guy must know what he is talking about. Id like to hear more.
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Fox doesn’t provide any news. A recent article I read called that to my attention. The use to call themselves “fair and balanced”. They are neither and they abandoned those words.
Shepherd Smith left for that reason.
 
Ethel2 said:
Fox doesn’t provide any news. A recent article I read called that to my attention. The use to call themselves “fair and balanced”. They are neither and they abandoned those words.
Shepherd Smith left for that reason.
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He left because he is far left and no one liked him.
 
jaeger19 said:
I just heard a "whoosh" sound as what you said went over a head.
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Says the one who died t know what age adjusted means Responding to a poster who doesn’t either.
 
Paradoxical said:
Says the one who died t know what age adjusted means Responding to a poster who doesn’t either.
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I know exactly what it means. I also know what an intervening variable is.
You don't.
 
Paradoxical said:
He left because he is far left and no one liked him.
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This is why he left in his own words:

“If you feel like the Fox viewers were getting mis- or disinformation, I was there to make sure that they got it straight,” Smith said in the clip, which Amanpour tweeted on Tuesday. “I stuck with it for as long as I could. And at some point I realized I've reached a point of diminishing returns and I left.”Jan 19, 2021

And this:


“His exit, the now-CNBC host revealed, was largely because he was fed up with his former broadcast colleagues "who are smart enough and educated enough to know better" and who he claims were spreading lies they knew to be false. “

I think he knows better why he left than you or anyone else here does.
 
Paradoxical said:
I love how the left tries to rewrite history and use word salad. What in the eff is this "works for"? This is meaningless tripe. The president's job is to uphold the constitution. America was founded on capitalism and small government and freedom from religion. It has been the Democrats who hate capitalism and if they "work for' anything, they "work for" BIG government. This statement of "works for" the people is absolute nonsense. His job isn't to promote "equity"
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The country was not founded on capitalism as it didn't even exist at the time.

But thanks for the far right whacko "history" lesson.
 
Paradoxical said:
Do YOIU even know what you mean by that statement?
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Yes, but obviously you don't get that saying our government works for capitalism is a nonsense statement. We are self governed, so that is why the government works for the people, and not an abstract economic idea.
 
Paradoxical said:
So, lemme get this straight. The truth is trolling?

If I am "trolling" why is it that not one of you ever proves me wrong? All you lefties ever do is say "You're wrong" because you can't handle truth.

Your claims are a dime a dozen that I am wrong. I make posts, you don't like them and every one of you just says "you're wrong". Just because you all gaslight and gang up on me in tribal fashion doesn't mean I'm wrong.
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The truth? That's hilarious. Spoken like a true evangelical. What makes you wrong is that you are wrong. All you do is rant your ideological beliefs and your hatred for any other views. You are a preacher for your faith, and you think that you have a true believers monopoly on the truth. You are no different than the imagined leftists you rail about, you just come from the other side. And you have the truth. Sorry, there is no truth, especially not in politics.
 
Paradoxical said:
Really now? How come so many people who wore masks got sick and died?
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You always seem to miss in my posts where I say that it is a straw man argument to say that masks alone stop all chances of infection and death. No one ever claimed this. There have always been multiple things recommended to mitigate the spread. Do you know what mitigate means? Or should we have Big Bird explain the word of the day to you? in addition, you have zero information on how many people got sick and died when following all of the recommendations. You just throw stuff out there with zero facts or statistics to back it.

Now we will wit for your dully predictable reply.

But...but... but... how many died with masks? A dull question that you have no real answer for.
 
devildavid said:
NOT A STUDY! PURE PROPAGANDA!
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LMAO... I really feel sorry for people like you. You have been trained to dismiss any information that contradicts your political narrative. While doing so may serve you well now, there will come a day when you question that narrative and discover just as so many others already have, that they were lied to and deceived. For your sake I just hope that happens sooner rather than later.

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Grim17 said:
LMAO... I really feel sorry for people like you. You have been trained to dismiss any information that contradicts your political narrative. While doing so may serve you well now, there will come a day when you question that narrative and discover just as so many others already have, that they were lied to and deceived. For your sake I just hope that happens sooner rather than later.

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I don't feel sorry for people like you who can't distinguish real studies from propaganda. You deserve the ignorance you wallow in.
 
devildavid said:
I don't feel sorry for people like you who can't distinguish real studies from propaganda. You deserve the ignorance you wallow in.
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The smart reader or listener will automatically dismiss anything put out there by Fox "news". Same with Newsmax and OAN. All propaganda machines. The OP here was disproven by me via a link to Worldometer. Its unbelievable that people believe that crap, at least without first independently verifying it.
 
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