would you vote to repeal the 2nd ammendment

[mrdeltoid]

I said several posts back that "MAY ISSUE" is a definite third rail for me and for a lot of gun owners, lib and con alike.
All states should be "SHALL ISSUE".
You seem to be advocating for removing all need for any CCW whatsoever so that is where we both appear to differ.
By the way, it's the same in Los Angeles County...which is also "MAY ISSUE" and that essentially means "will NOT issue".
And I agree that must be changed.

PS: I grew up in Bethesda, MD.
Left there in late 1977.

Was a very nice area at one time. I don't know how good it is currently. Oh, yeah, I can't argue with any part of your post. I prefer no CCW laws, but I can live with shall issue. Most of the states I travel in honor my permit. It's so ironic I can carry in about 30 states, but I can't in my home state. SMH

 

[mrdeltoid]

I'd vote to repeal it. Apparently, Americans can't handle it. They're too stressed, too angry, too poor, too abused, too helpless to change anything and too violent. When and if we become a more caring and less divided nation, we'll bring it back.

How would repealing the 2a, change Americans from being " too stressed, too angry, too poor, too abused, too helpless to change anything and too violent."?

 

[haymarket]

Why so obtuse? Apparently a simple question is way beyond your capacity. I'd hide it better.

Unless I sit in Congress or a state legislature I cannot conceive of a situation where I would vote on this issue. Now were I to sit there, I do not think any changes in the current Amendment are necessary so I would not support repeal.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Was a very nice area at one time. I don't know how good it is currently. Oh, yeah, I can't argue with any part of your post. I prefer no CCW laws, but I can live with shall issue. Most of the states I travel in honor my permit. It's so ironic I can carry in about 30 states, but I can't in my home state. SMH

It is still a very nice area to live in if you can deal with the traffic (which is actually worse than L.A. and always was) the heat and the extreme humidity. But I must confess that the last time I was there in 1992 I actually got lost in my own hometown! It had GROWN SO MUCH!
When I left Bethesda in the Seventies I think the population was around 65 or 75 thousand but it has to be well over 150 to 175 thousand now.
And the office buildings, holy cow...

The house I grew up in was purchased in 1960 for 30 thousand something by my parents and it recently listed for almost 800 thousand.



Not worth 800 large? Well, you know what they say: LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
This house and neighborhood are located less than a quarter mile from this:



If it looks familiar, it's Bethesda Naval Hospital, which is across the street from National Institutes of Health and the National Library of Medicine, among other things.

 

[TurtleDude]

i'd probably support an update with about fifty fewer commas and maybe a specification that howitzers, bioweapons, and nuclear bombs aren't covered.

they aren't-those aren't weapons citizens would normally keep and bear for self defense.

 

[TurtleDude]

Curious, which Liberal legal scholar was that?

Might have been Sanford Levinson (JD, Yale-Professor at U of Texas) who wrote a seminal Yale Law Journal article called the Embarrassing Second Amendment about 30 years ago.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Unless I sit in Congress or a state legislature I cannot conceive of a situation where I would vote on this issue. Now were I to sit there, I do not think any changes in the current Amendment are necessary so I would not support repeal.

Quit trying to divert...multiple times, and just answer the damned question.

 

[Luther]

Vote in what manner? When will the average citizen who is not an office holder vote on anything of such importance as changing the US Constitution?

Great job of making this poll more than what it is(wink)

 

[haymarket]

Quit trying to divert...multiple times, and just answer the damned question.

Perhaps if you learned to read you would not post such nonsense.

 

[haymarket]

Great job of making this poll more than what it is(wink)

What it is? I thought I exposed that earlier.

 

[LouC]

Might have been Sanford Levinson (JD, Yale-Professor at U of Texas) who wrote a seminal Yale Law Journal article called the Embarrassing Second Amendment about 30 years ago.

Thanks, I will look into it!

:2wave:

 

[Luther]

What it is? I thought I exposed that earlier.

Well, you thought wrong(LOL)

 

[LouC]

Might have been Sanford Levinson (JD, Yale-Professor at U of Texas) who wrote a seminal Yale Law Journal article called the Embarrassing Second Amendment about 30 years ago.

Would still love Waddy to fess up who the Liberal legal scholar is?

 

[haymarket]

Well, you thought wrong(LOL)

Only for a select few who opted NOT to understand for fear it would weaken or destroy their phony point they were trying to make..

 

[Luther]

Only for a select few who opted NOT to understand for fear it would weaken or destroy their phony point they were trying to make..

Well, I'm not one of them

 

[haymarket]

Well, I'm not one of them

Keep telling yourself those soothing things. You just might convince yourself.

 

[SMTA]

I've been engaging with a poster that believes the 2a should be repealed. So, what say you? Would you vote to repeal the 2nd amendment? yes or no

Let’s repeal in numerical order and start with the 1A first.

 

[eman623]

This poll is very meta. Asking people to vote how they would vote. I'm tempted to start a "How would you vote in a poll to decide whether you would vote to repeal the 2nd amendment." :2razz:

 

[eman623]

Let’s repeal in numerical order and start with the 1A first.

If people really feel a need to repeal an amendment, the 3rd seems a good place to go to scratch that itch. At almost the instant of its passing, military culture and weaponry changed to render it obsolete. Plus the young country had lots of land on which to build bases so there was simply no need to billet soldiers in citizens' homes.

 

[Angel]

No. The right to bear arms is based on the right to self-defense, which is based on the right to life.

 

[danielpalos]

No. Well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Our legislatures must provide for the common defense.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

If our legislatures refuse to do their Job, it is the obligation of the militia of the United States to, take it up with the Judicature.

 

[mrdeltoid]

It is still a very nice area to live in if you can deal with the traffic (which is actually worse than L.A. and always was) the heat and the extreme humidity. But I must confess that the last time I was there in 1992 I actually got lost in my own hometown! It had GROWN SO MUCH!
When I left Bethesda in the Seventies I think the population was around 65 or 75 thousand but it has to be well over 150 to 175 thousand now.
And the office buildings, holy cow...

The house I grew up in was purchased in 1960 for 30 thousand something by my parents and it recently listed for almost 800 thousand.

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Not worth 800 large? Well, you know what they say: LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
This house and neighborhood are located less than a quarter mile from this:

View attachment 67268329

If it looks familiar, it's Bethesda Naval Hospital, which is across the street from National Institutes of Health and the National Library of Medicine, among other things.

Brings back memories. I was a Pt. there in 1976 after I rotated back to the states from Okinawa. Nice place.

 

[mrdeltoid]

It is still a very nice area to live in if you can deal with the traffic (which is actually worse than L.A. and always was) the heat and the extreme humidity. But I must confess that the last time I was there in 1992 I actually got lost in my own hometown! It had GROWN SO MUCH!
When I left Bethesda in the Seventies I think the population was around 65 or 75 thousand but it has to be well over 150 to 175 thousand now.
And the office buildings, holy cow...

The house I grew up in was purchased in 1960 for 30 thousand something by my parents and it recently listed for almost 800 thousand.

View attachment 67268328

Not worth 800 large? Well, you know what they say: LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
This house and neighborhood are located less than a quarter mile from this:

View attachment 67268329

If it looks familiar, it's Bethesda Naval Hospital, which is across the street from National Institutes of Health and the National Library of Medicine, among other things.

Quit trying to divert...multiple times, and just answer the damned question.

Thankyou

 

[AProudLefty]

I've been engaging with a poster that believes the 2a should be repealed. So, what say you? Would you vote to repeal the 2nd amendment? yes or no

Criminals hope it's repealed.

 

[mrdeltoid]

It is still a very nice area to live in if you can deal with the traffic (which is actually worse than L.A. and always was) the heat and the extreme humidity. But I must confess that the last time I was there in 1992 I actually got lost in my own hometown! It had GROWN SO MUCH!
When I left Bethesda in the Seventies I think the population was around 65 or 75 thousand but it has to be well over 150 to 175 thousand now.
And the office buildings, holy cow...

The house I grew up in was purchased in 1960 for 30 thousand something by my parents and it recently listed for almost 800 thousand.

View attachment 67268328

Not worth 800 large? Well, you know what they say: LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
This house and neighborhood are located less than a quarter mile from this:

View attachment 67268329

If it looks familiar, it's Bethesda Naval Hospital, which is across the street from National Institutes of Health and the National Library of Medicine, among other things.

Criminals hope it's repealed.

Bingo