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Would you support a ban on all firearms in the US?

Would you support a ban of all firearms in the US?

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lurchadams said:
No. Some people actually need certain types of firearms for personal protection and for hunting. I would call for a ban on anything meant for military type assault however, that's until deer start shooting back. Then I'm all for semi-automatic weapons with armor piecing shells. "Take that, Bambi" :)
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So how would you feel about a ban on the sidearms carried by army officers?
 
Rich2018 said:
How did you come by that figure ?

I say confiscation would cost nothing.


The extra costs in police hours would be counter balanced by fines for withholding firearms and not handing them in.
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If you're talking about a mandatory buyback as they did in Australia and the UK that would cost trillions of dollars in taxes, when you add up all the guns privately owned in the USA.
 
Rich2018 said:
Instigating a gun ban doesn't mean just passing a law, it also mean (at least majority) public consent.
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Well I suppose you're right about people quietly turning in their guns IF they consent to it.
 
Rich2018 said:
The you get arrested when you commit your crime(s) and your illegal gun(s) are seized.
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And if the criminals use their illegal guns and shoot the people trying to arrest them? Newsflash, that's what criminals do.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes

Operative word "some"

Latter day David Koresh types.

Thankfully, they are few and far between.

For an everyday Joe with a mortgage and kids, not so much. They hand over their guns rather than go to jail.
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Do you really believe all that or is it just what you heard?
It's a whole lot more than some and believe it they are not far and few between. Plus a lot of "average Joe'" don't have mortgages or kids and the ones that do have kids are old enough to make a choice and will. You think you know people (gun owners) but you don't. Maybe you should get to know them.
 
dairyair said:
Which is why those that claim the left is going to take your guns away is nothing but BS to scare people.
Guns will never be taken away. And never is a very long time.
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It's a cheap pander to the extreme corner of the liberal base.
Look, I understand how they feel and I hate the massive uptick in mass shootings and what not.
It's just that I am convinced that gun confiscation laws and weapons bans will not solve the problem.

If we were a nation of twenty or fifty million without a Second Amendment and without four hundred million firearms, it might be possible to pull off a mass confiscation. And the time to do that would have been around maybe the 1870's or so.
I sure wouldn't have supported it had I been alive back then but my guess is that was about the last time it could have been pulled off....MAYBE.
And STILL, it still would have wound up as a battle to repeal the 2A, so I still doubt it would have succeeded.
Even the conservatives TRIED to ban guns. Reagan passed The Mulford Act in California.

Pffffftttttt, it's never going to work, never going to happen, and instead of wasting time and pitting people against each other, we HAVE to approach the gun issue in a much different manner.

"DO NOT DRIVE DRUNK - - - EVER!!!"

Okay? That DID work...drunk driving has decreased A LOT.

"DO NOT USE A GUN TO SOLVE A PERSONAL PROBLEM !!!"

We need to reeducate the American people on how they need to VIEW firearms altogether. We need to teach Americans proper RESPECT for firearms and we need to teach CHILDREN why resorting to guns is the stupidest possible decision that they could ever make.

And last but not least, one of the biggest issues is the politicization of guns.
When I USED to BE an NRA member, guns were not remotely political.
Now, if you are a liberal, you're not SUPPOSED to like guns, right?
If you're a conservative, the NRA teaches you that only CONSERVATIVES understand guns and the 2A.
This has been such a massive fail that all it has accomplished is to gin up the hostilities.

Likewise, if you're on the Left, you're supposed to hate guns.
Sorry, that's perhaps an even bigger chunk of bull-turd than the NRA's bull-turd stew.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes

Operative word "some"

Latter day David Koresh types.

Thankfully, they are few and far between.

For an everyday Joe with a mortgage and kids, not so much. They hand over their guns rather than go to jail.
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Waco was 27 years ago. It is a very different world today. Thanks to the internet and cell phones, people can communicate with each other and the government can't stop them. You go door to door trying to confiscate firearms from people who have done nothing wrong you are going to get a lot of resistance. Way more than you think.
 
aociswundumho said:
Waco was 27 years ago. It is a very different world today. Thanks to the internet and cell phones, people can communicate with each other and the government can't stop them. You go door to door trying to confiscate firearms from people who have done nothing wrong you are going to get a lot of resistance. Way more than you think.
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In your dreams

People will hand over their guns

There no evidence to suggest they won't. Of course they'll be some latter day David Koresh rebels but not too many.
 
zsu2357 said:
Do you really believe all that or is it just what you heard?
It's a whole lot more than some and believe it they are not far and few between. Plus a lot of "average Joe'" don't have mortgages or kids and the ones that do have kids are old enough to make a choice and will. You think you know people (gun owners) but you don't. Maybe you should get to know them.
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I think I know them well enough to know they won't want to go to jail.
 
dairyair said:
Evidence for something that hasn't happened?
How about your evidence that millions and millions of guns owners will willingly turn in their guns, but for a few.
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Evidence for an assertion that something will happen, yes
 
DebateChallenge said:
Well I suppose you're right about people quietly turning in their guns IF they consent to it.
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And that is why the big metropolitan's are (D) controlled or if not want to be. For that almighty(D) vote. Look at the west coast, it's disgusting.
 
DebateChallenge said:
And all handguns.
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Nope, no hand guns

If you're talking about a mandatory buyback as they did in Australia and the UK that would cost trillions of dollars in taxes....
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I think that's too much, I would seize with no compensation.


Well I suppose you're right about people quietly turning in their guns IF they consent to it.
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I meant a majority of the voting public consenting to it.

The gun owners won't consent of course


And if the criminals use their illegal guns and shoot the people trying to arrest them? Newsflash, that's what criminals do.
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A few do and that makes headline news
Most don't
Did you know Chicago PD seized 100,000 guns in one year


So if it doesn't work with alcohol and drugs why would it work with guns?
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Already discussed

Alcohol did not have a majority public support. It's amazing that such a law ever got passed

Drugs are too easy to make/process and smuggle
 
Rich2018 said:
Of course they'll be some latter day David Koresh rebels but not too many.
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Yes, and there will be videos of the jackboots killing innocent people, showing the government as the true criminal.

Even on this forum, which is filled with state worshipers, not one person as of 9:42pm et has voted in favor of banning all firearms.

In your dreams
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The only person here dreaming, is you.
 
zsu2357 said:
You really think only 1,000-2,000 would hold out? You are smoking or drinking some powerful stuff. Ever hear of sharing?lol.
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It makes just as much sense as the number you pulled out of you @ss,
 
aociswundumho said:
Yes, and there will be videos of the jackboots killing innocent people, showing the government as the true criminal.

Even on this forum, which is filled with state worshipers, not one person as of 9:42pm et has voted in favor of banning all firearms.
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I did

Do you feel we have a broad enough sample size ?


The only person here dreaming, is you.
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"I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.”

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together."


Martin Luther King
A great man
 
Rich2018 said:
Do you feel we have a broad enough sample size ?
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No, but it's still some evidence.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
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Let me know when liberal democrats stop judging people by the color of their skin.
 
Rich2018 said:
Nope, no hand guns
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No, handguns should be the least regulated of all guns. Its silly to want to ban handguns while allowing the more powerful rifles and shotguns.

Rich2018 said:
I think that's too much, I would seize with no compensation.
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So another words you're saying the government should steal. The government should take people's property, people's stuff that they spent their hard earned money on without any compensation whatsoever. You can't just take stuff without compensation, when you take something you owe the person you took it from. To take without compensation is called stealing.

Rich2018 said:
I meant a majority of the voting public consenting to it.

The gun owners won't consent of course
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About 30% of the US population is made up of gun owners and there are lots of people who don't own guns but do believe in gun rights. The voting public will never vote for the kind of gun control you talk about.

Rich2018 said:
A few do and that makes headline news
Most don't
Did you know Chicago PD seized 100,000 guns in one year
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No, not all criminal shootings make headlines.

Rich2018 said:
Already discussed

Alcohol did not have a majority public support. It's amazing that such a law ever got passed

Drugs are too easy to make/process and smuggle
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Guns can be easy to make/process too, ever hear of zip guns?
 
Rich2018 said:
In your dreams

People will hand over their guns

There no evidence to suggest they won't. Of course they'll be some latter day David Koresh rebels but not too many.
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Some will, many will not. Period.
 
holbritter said:
Some will, many will not. Period.
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Very few would comply, the banners are living in a fantasy land. Thing is they never get a total ban on firearms, they may get another useless AR ban imposed once again, for a few years anyway but banning all firearms will always be a fantasy unfulfilled on their part. As for confiscation or buybacks, every buyback program in this country has been a complete failure and they don't have the manpower or resources to confiscate everyone's firearms, more fantasy.
 
Rich2018 said:
Evidence for an assertion that something will happen, yes
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Go for it then.
How millions and millions of gun owners are going to willingly turn in their guns. But for a few.

You made the claim, prove that assertion.

I can't prove mine. I only know gun owners feel strongly about keeping them at this point in time.
 
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