Would you rather have Russians or liberals interfering in our elections?

[Vern]

Wow.

The fact that you actually believe all that is really rather scary. Here's my answer in the form of a question: what should one do when confronted by a person loudly muttering crazy stuff to themself on a subway platform?

you said it best GC.

Well, that was such a fact filled repudiation of my positions that you surely convinced me. I mean what can I really say except maybe in the genre of, " I know you are but what am I?", eh?

GC, you should google the word hypocrite. You clearly don't know what it means.

 

[ThoughtEx.]

I've said nothing about making laws.

So then what you're saying is we shouldn't worry about foreign interference in our elections, because the media is the real bad guys. We should worry about the media, but never ever do anything about it. Just be really angry at them. But definitely don't worry about a hostile nation picking our leaders. Nothing bad can come from that. Nope. More important we focus on ignoring the people whose job it is to warn us about such things. Because they say mean things about the leader that was picked by the hostile nation. Who is great because he lies constantly and insults people I don't like for superficial reasons.

Let's ignore the fire alarm because it's loud and annoying, wonder why it's so warm in here...

I should start a remedial news network. Where everything is told like it's being explained to a very slow 6 year old with behavioral issues. Our talk show would look something like this.

"No, No, stabbing yourself is bad, because it will hurt you. Just like voting for a known con man that can only get business loans from our greatest enemy. It's called conflict of interest, say it with me now, conflict of interest. That means the con man will benefit from performing tasks for our greatest enemy, even tho it's not good for us. The people. Like stabbing yourself."

"Trump make me laugh, he funny, Trump friend, you no be mean to friend. Trump save me from illegals who want to rape. He good."

"No, No, Trump is tricking you with a very common and obvious tactic. By taking something your scared of, and making it seem worse than it is, he can get you to agree with doing horrible bad things, you wouldn't have agreed to before you were scared. He learned how to do this to stupid people by reading a book called Mein Kampf. Which was written by the worst person in history. But he's not very good at it, which is why anyone smarter than a dog doesn't believe anything he says"

"I smart like dog?"

"No, I'm sorry, you are one of god's extra special people."

"Yay, I special, Yay."

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

you said it best GC.



GC, you should google the word hypocrite. You clearly don't know what it means.

Uh, huh.

Truth is truth. No brag, just fact.

 

[Mycroft]

So then what you're saying is we shouldn't worry about foreign interference in our elections, because the media is the real bad guys

~snipped the irrelevant, hyperbolic, snowflake blather~

I've said no such thing. Seriously, do you have a reading problem? Or a comprehension problem?

 

[ThoughtEx.]

I don't care about the Russians. I don't care about the liberals.

But I DO care about the Mainstream Media interfering in our elections.

I've said no such thing. Seriously, do you have a reading problem? Or a comprehension problem?

More like you got a memory problem...

or you hate America.

 

[Mycroft]

More like you got a memory problem...

or you hate America.

Nope...no memory problem, but you certainly have a comprehension problem.

I didn't say "we shouldn't worry about foreign interference in our elections". I said "I don't care about the Russians." Do you comprehend the difference between those two statements?

 

[Oreo]

If you keep looking back into history you will see that Russia has been hacking us since ww2 and before. I love the way the uninformed act like this latest hack is something new. The Russians knew about the Manhattan project before even the vice president. The only difference now is the DNC got exposed for their corruption. Putin made a fool out of the democrats and the FBI by exposing the corruption in our election process that the FBI should have been on top of.

They weren't backing us they were just fighting against the same enemy. Germany's invasion into Russia. Russia lost over 4 million people during WW2. I think you need a major history lesson.

In this country--any hacking into private or public computers is a FELONY. There are plenty of people in prison over it today. It's the equivalent of someone walking up to your mail box--opening your mail and blasting it all over the internet. Vladimir Putin did this to help Trump win the election, and there is plenty of evidence that suggests Trump surrogates were in on it.

We consider Cyber Attacks to be the 21st century act of war. Therefore this will be considered TREASON against the United States.

 

[ThoughtEx.]

Nope...no memory problem, but you certainly have a comprehension problem.

I didn't say "we shouldn't worry about foreign interference in our elections". I said "I don't care about the Russians." Do you comprehend the difference between those two statements?

Do you understand that your statement was an appeal to trust on a political platform intended to sway people's opinion? By positing that you do not care about the Russians, it is a clear statement that we also should not care about the Russians. We only care about the Russians, because they are foreign power influencing our elections. "I don't care" means the same thing as "I don't worry about".

What you're doing here is trying to flip the script. I implied that people who think like you are limited in intelligence, so now you're trying to insult my intelligence by splitting hairs over the meaning of your words. Either A) you don't understand what you meant, or B) you're counting on Trump supporter's not being to good at reading themselves to understand the scope of your argument.

So either you are dumb, or you hate America. Which is it?

 

[Vox]

I'd rather have Russians since they seem neutral while encouraging demonstrations against both sides (according to Mueller's indictment) and operate on a tiny tiny scale whereas liberals operate on a massive scale supporting big govt schemes that clearly oppose the basic limited govt, carefully enumerated powers spelled out in our Constitution.

The Russians were against Hillary.

I was against Hillary.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[Mycroft]

Do you understand that your statement was an appeal to trust on a political platform intended to sway people's opinion? By positing that you do not care about the Russians, it is a clear statement that we also should not care about the Russians. We only care about the Russians, because they are foreign power influencing our elections. "I don't care" means the same thing as "I don't worry about".

What you're doing here is trying to flip the script. I implied that people who think like you are limited in intelligence, so now you're trying to insult my intelligence by splitting hairs over the meaning of your words. Either A) you don't understand what you meant, or B) you're counting on Trump supporter's not being to good at reading themselves to understand the scope of your argument.

So either you are dumb, or you hate America. Which is it?

My statement wasn't an "appeal" for anything. My statement was only me expressing my own opinion.

Hell, I don't care if you agree with me or not. Do your own thing. Form your own opinion.

That seems to be the difference between you and I. You want to change my mind. I don't want to change anyone's mind.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Maybe we should lead by example. If we stop interfering in other governments we would actually have a legitimate beef. As long as we are constantly interfering in every government on the planet and their process of determining their leaders I have to support Russia and their basically telling us to f--k off. We are clearly 2 faced bigots. That is the proper term for people who do unto others and cry when they do unto us.

Then you should turn in your conservative badge.
Moral relativism with regard to our national security is a dealbreaker.
You're not conservative at all.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I've said nothing about making laws.

You didn't have to.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

If you keep looking back into history you will see that Russia has been hacking us since ww2 and before. I love the way the uninformed act like this latest hack is something new. The Russians knew about the Manhattan project before even the vice president. The only difference now is the DNC got exposed for their corruption. Putin made a fool out of the democrats and the FBI by exposing the corruption in our election process that the FBI should have been on top of.

Again, moral relativism.
Of course they've been practicing espionage. What they're doing now is on an entirely different level.
Just how much are you willing to hand over in the name of "We do it, too"?
Listen, I don't CARE if "we do it, too" and I don't CARE how long THEY have been doing it.
They have gotten TOO GOOD AT IT NOW and at OUR expense, and I don't LIVE THERE, I LIVE HERE.

Do you have any sense of self-preservation at all?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I said "I don't care about the Russians." Do you comprehend the difference between those two statements?

Yes, we comprehend the difference, and your ignorance of the situation is duly noted.

 

[Vern]

The Russians are more secretive and cunning, hard to catch. But once caught the entire public is usually pretty much in agreement about the punishing any caught culprits.

er uh GC, here's another obedient conservative who doesn't seem interested in " punishing any caught culprits"

The Russians were against Hillary.
I was against Hillary.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

GC, I think we need to deal with the elephant in the room: your lack of ability to respond to my posts in an honest and intelligent manner.

Uh, huh.

Truth is truth. No brag, just fact.

This post does not address anything I've posted. Its simply a dishonest deflection from our discussion. The fact that its incoherent is just a bonus.

 

[Mycroft]

You didn't have to.

LOL!!

You're right. I don't have to say anything. You'll make **** up as you see fit.

 

[Mycroft]

Yes, we comprehend the difference, and your ignorance of the situation is duly noted.

LOL!!

"We"??

You got a mouse in your pocket? It's probably smarter than you are. You should listen to it.

 

[James972]

I don't want to change anyone's mind.

its your duty!! If Nazis were taking over you wouldn't want to change their minds?

 

[James972]

Vladimir Putin did this to help Trump win the election, and there is plenty of evidence that suggests Trump surrogates were in on it.

1) so??? it was a better informed electorate that voted after Vlads help.
2) of course if there was plenty of evidence you would present it

 

[James972]

Once Russian helped the Trumpster

Russia helped the American people by exposing the emails. In this case a little foreign intervention created a more informed electorate.

 

[Mycroft]

its your duty!! If Nazis were taking over you wouldn't want to change their minds?

Nazis won't take over.

Do you live in fear that they will?

 

[James972]

Nazis won't take over.

Do you live in fear that they will?

yes the Constitution is based on preventing exactly that from happening!!


Jefferson:
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

er uh GC, here's another obedient conservative who doesn't seem interested in " punishing any caught culprits"



GC, I think we need to deal with the elephant in the room: your lack of ability to respond to my posts in an honest and intelligent manner.




This post does not address anything I've posted. Its simply a dishonest deflection from our discussion. The fact that its incoherent is just a bonus.

Well, blame yourself cause you've forced us up this river.

So in respecting your request that I engage seriously, I will then ask you to reference, to produce some of this evidence you said was "abounding". And...Evidence of what exactly? Do tell, the non crime of "collusion" swiftly shoveled aside, replaced with the cmon, ya gotta be kidding me obstruction offense... on steroids no less?

Those are a simple two to embark upon this, my adventure, going up river deep behind the oppositions false lines with Vern as my guide.

If I never get back, tell my family I loved them.

 

[Vern]

Russia helped the American people by exposing the emails. In this case a little foreign intervention created a more informed electorate.

what a sad pathetic reply. Typical but still sad and pathetic. See how you have tor reduce my post to a sentence fragment to reply. So we can add dishonest. here's my post.

Inane? insane? I would say obediently ignorant. Your little screed leaves out the fact that the "counter protests" were after the election. Once Russian helped the Trumpster Fire[SUP]©[/SUP] get elected they set about causing more discord and chaos. As you desperately look for an excuse to not hold Russia accountable you had to rely on ignorance not fact.

oooooooo James, can you do me a favor, can you tell Gaugingcatenate you are not "in agreement about the punishing any caught culprits." thanks in advance.

Of course you couldn't even reply to a whole sentence. You had to dishonestly ignore that I shredded the entire point of your thread. James, once again, when it comes time for a conservative to choose narrative or integrity, conservatives choose narrative. Your masters appreciate your obedience.

 

[Vern]

Well, blame yourself cause you've forced us up this river.

So in respecting your request that I engage seriously, I will then ask you to reference, to produce some of this evidence you said was "abounding". And...Evidence of what exactly? Do tell, the non crime of "collusion" swiftly shoveled aside, replaced with the cmon, ya gotta be kidding me obstruction offense... on steroids no less?

Those are a simple two to embark upon this, my adventure, going up river deep behind the oppositions false lines with Vern as my guide.

If I never get back, tell my family I loved them.

ah, more dishonest (and incoherent) deflection. GC, you've made two points in this thread. "libruls are mindless minions" and "the entire public is usually pretty much in agreement about the punishing any caught culprits." You've posted nothing to support your obedient narratives. I've proven that conservatives are mindless minions and your conservative friends have proven they have no interest in "punishing any caught culprits." Here's are a crazy idea. Instead of desperately and dishonestly trying to deflect from your own posts, show some integrity and respond in an honest and intelligent manner. You would be the first conservative to do so.