Navy Pride
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What exactly about their "lifestyle" do you dislike, and what exactly do you think they might do to impressionable young boys?
We have been over this issue a dozen times redress and you know exactly how I feel.
I would ban them because of their lifestyle and what they might do to young impressionable boys......... I feel confident the BSA will do the right thing.
No I don't NP. Why are you afraid to state your concerns clearly and openly.
You might not like it my left wing friend but the BSA are a private organization and can deny membership to anyonr they see fit.
I would ban them because of their lifestyle and what they might do to young impressionable boys......... I feel confident the BSA will do the right thing.
No I don't NP. Why are you afraid to state your concerns clearly and openly.
I would ban them because of their lifestyle and what they might do to young impressionable boys......... I feel confident the BSA will do the right thing.
I feel confident the BSA will do the right thing.
Okay Navy Pride,
here's one for you:
Would you be okay with sending your son to a scouting event knowing that the BSA for two decades systematically shuffled pedophiles around troops Catholic Church Style and hid them from the police?
Pedophiles are overwhelmingly straight males. So statistically, your kid would be safer from pedophilia with homosexual scout leaders.
Its really quite simple.........When my family goes to mass we don't sleep with the priest...........with a gay scoutmaster or scout they might sleep in the same tent. I hope that explains it for you.
I never had a problem with blacks in the military or BSA. In fact the Republican Party was the main reason the Civil Rights bill was passed....Most of the dems were from the south and wanted to reject the civil rights act. You never hear that side from the Liberial press.
I don't know what he would do...Its just not about him.....Its about openly gay scouts...I would not like to have my son sleep in a small tent with openly gay scouts......If they approve gays openly in the scouts I would not be surprised to see a mass exodus.
I know your a Catholic hater and you love to spiel your point about the priests but the truth is only about 1% of Catholic Priests have been convicted of any child abuse.
It is your fear that homosexuality is contagious? You fear that a sexual assault may occur? I submit, sir, that far more sexual assaults have been committed by clergy than BSA yet you defend the Catholic church and do not hold them to the same standards.
I do understand where you are coming from though. Your generation has been conditioned to fear gays. You were taught that it is a mental disorder and assumingly contagious. That doesn't make you a bad person. Just ill-informed.
He's a bad person. If his generation were taught that the earth is the center of the solar system and new evidence came forth to disprove that and he ignored it, he would no longer be afforded the luxury of being "ill-informed". The same applies here.
I would ban them because of their lifestyle and what they might do to young impressionable boys......... I feel confident the BSA will do the right thing.
He's a bad person. If his generation were taught that the earth is the center of the solar system and new evidence came forth to disprove that and he ignored it, he would no longer be afforded the luxury of being "ill-informed". The same applies here.
I feel confident that the BSA will do the right thing as well, but as with many anachronistic customs based on illogical fears and prejudices, it has taken time.
The reason that I believe the BSA SHOULD end their ban on gays is precisely BECAUSE of what it will do for impressionable young boys. You see, I don't think gay is a disease or a choice, so there ARE and ALWAYS will be children who are gay (not that it is relevant when they are children, but it is still what they are) and they ARE impressionable. The impression I would prefer to give them is that being what they are is perfectly acceptable. Making people hide what they are is one great way to crush a person. Allowing people to be opnely gay does not mean allowing people to have gay sex in public, it just means allowing them to admit what they believe they are.
I don't believe either of my children are gay, but I want them to know that if they are, it's fine by me, I will love them for who they are, not their sexual orientation. My children are aware of my stance on this, and they are aware that I believe that organizations that discriminate in this way are simply fearful backwards people who will get old and die and take their prejudices with them.
Go take a look at the hundreds of thousands of conservatives who have reversed their position on this issue for one simple reason, they learned their own child was gay, and in that moment, they come to realize that gay people are not something to fear, but people who want to disciminate against their children over this simple fact of their child's nature are the people to be feared.
Fortunately, we don't punish people for their thoughts. Navy Pride is not a bad person. He is just as entitled to be prejudiced against gays as you are to be prejudiced against people with blue eyes. It is actions that make a person bad . . . not thoughts. Prejudice comes from people judging other people. Perhaps we have a "physician, heal thyself" moment here.
He's a bad person. If his generation were taught that the earth is the center of the solar system and new evidence came forth to disprove that and he ignored it, he would no longer be afforded the luxury of being "ill-informed". The same applies here.
Members of the quasi-religious group, Westboro Baptist Church, planned to gather in Connecticut to protest the funeral of Newtown, Conn., shooting victim Principal Dawn Hochsprung. However, Good Samaritans were already there to thwart any possible protest with a human wall.
The Westboro Baptist Church announced plans to picket Hochsprung's funeral on Wednesday in Woodbury, Conn., and "sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment." The group has blamed the mass shooting on Connecticut's same-sex marriage legislation. On Dec. 14, 26 people were shot at Sandy Hook Elementary School, 20 of those victims included children ages 6 and 7.
Motorcylists lined up on Wednesday to protest the possible protesters. "All these guys see us and think we're bad. We're not. It's solidarity, is what it is," New York native Jim Hannigan told Newtown Patch. "I just felt I had to be here."
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