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World Opinion?

Do you care what the world thinks about the US?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 42.9%
  • No

    Votes: 24 57.1%

  • Total voters
    42
This is all kind of silly. EXCEPT for the U.S., what other countries do 99% of the time is what's in their self interest. How other countries interact with the U.S. has been and will continue to be based on what's in their self interest, not what their opinion is of us. I think it's time we acted like them. The U.S. has done the heavy lifting to defend and advance democracy in the world for 65 years. Screw "the world" - if they want to live with tyrants, dictators, islamofascists, let them. Let's work on self-sufficiency, starting with energy.
 
Willoughby said:
Sorry i probably phrased it in the wrong terms. I meant that it would not effect the united states as much as it would if other aid givers withdrew their aid. I did not mean this in terms of how much the countries receive but in terms as a percentage of the US governemnt money is spent on aid

Sorry then. Perhaps I read it wrong. I'll look more thoroughly from now on.
 
alphieb said:
If you believe that, I hope you have plenty of money to pay twice the amount for goods. Meanwhile, it would probably cause some major inflation.


I'm sure it would .. But I am not talking about economics. I am talking about possibilities. We would have inflation for sure .. The global market however would go into convulsions and collapse.
 
Willoughby said:
If the US didn't have so much economic power another country would. There is nothing particulary special about the states. Once britain was the worlds biggest economic but they fell and so will the states one day.

And dinosaurs roamed the earth too. It may fall but you won't be around to see it. But we do have the power. And we have used that power to advanced the world one many fronts. I don't know what would have happened if we didn't have that kind of prosperity and technological advances in this country.

Willoughby said:
That wouldn't take out much on the foreign aid front. The US is nowhere near the top of the list in terms of foreign aid.

So the billions upon billions in foreign aid and private donations not to mention assitance and manhours wouldn't be usefull? Wow .. I wish I could get hold of that kind of money so I cound be useless too.

Willoughby said:
Maybe its that sort of attutude that keeps on getting u in to lots of problems

Tough ****... I could give a rat turd less what the rest of the world thinks. They don't like us then they should grow a set of balls and A.) Do sometrhing about it. Maybe france can send us some threatening cheese or wine. Or B.) Stop dealing with us. If we are that horrible show us a lesson and cut of all ties with us. Handle your own problems, get your own hands dirty, commit your own people to die for a cause. I personally have no problem with option A or B
 
So the billions upon billions in foreign aid and private donations not to mention assitance and manhours wouldn't be usefull? Wow .. I wish I could get hold of that kind of money so I cound be useless too.
I really didn't get my point. I am not saying that the US doesn't give a significnat amount of foreign aid , i was just making the point that, now listen carefully, compared to other countries they don't give as much of their national budgets. By the way i wasn't comenting on private donations so i don't know why you used that against me....
 
Willoughby said:
I really didn't get my point. I am not saying that the US doesn't give a significnat amount of foreign aid , i was just making the point that, now listen carefully, compared to other countries they don't give as much of their national budgets. By the way i wasn't comenting on private donations so i don't know why you used that against me....

Understood... Now you listen carefully..... At no time did I ever say they gave the most. I said they would not have to give any. And this would be money that would be kept witin the country. I don't really understand your purpose of bring that up. But if we are going to go there then lets add everything up. Foriegn Aid, Military aid, Man Hours, Private donations. My bet is it dwarfs any and every country out there. It's easy to give more from the goverment cawfers whent he goverment has no other issues to deal with on a global scale. Write your check and close your door. We don't have the luxory.
 
Willoughby said:
Sorry i probably phrased it in the wrong terms. I meant that it would not effect the united states as much as it would if other aid givers withdrew their aid. I did not mean this in terms of how much the countries receive but in terms as a percentage of the US governemnt money is spent on aid


Oh, so what you're saying is that the United States gives far far more than any other single nation on the planet, but because we don't give as high a percentage of GDP as some of the maggot infested socialist countries we're dirt.

Anyone out there got a chart listing per capita PRIVATE donations by country?

Let's see how those nice French Fries stack up against real Americans when it comes to real charity.
 
Oh, so what you're saying is that the United States gives far far more than any other single nation on the planet, but because we don't give as high a percentage of GDP as some of the maggot infested socialist countries we're dirt.

Anyone out there got a chart listing per capita PRIVATE donations by country?

Let's see how those nice French Fries stack up against real Americans when it comes to real charity.
Do people just not listen? If the US stop giving aid then the world would be in a much worse off condition (the US would probably be aswell). The US are generous in their aid (esp. private donations). The orginal poster who brought up aid said that the US would save massive amounts of money from their budget if they stopped giving aid. All i said that it wouldn't be as big a chunk out of their budgets as it would be for some countries!
 
Willoughby said:
Do people just not listen? If the US stop giving aid then the world would be in a much worse off condition (the US would probably be aswell). The US are generous in their aid (esp. private donations). The orginal poster who brought up aid said that the US would save massive amounts of money from their budget if they stopped giving aid. All i said that it wouldn't be as big a chunk out of their budgets as it would be for some countries!

I listen just fine. I also read well, and I didn't read what you just said in your earlier posts.
 
alphamale said:
This is all kind of silly. EXCEPT for the U.S., what other countries do 99% of the time is what's in their self interest. ... The U.S. has done the heavy lifting to defend and advance democracy in the world for 65 years.

There you have it: can you blame anyone for holding the USA in low esteem
when you claim self-righteously that everyone else is driven by self interest and
the USA isn't?

The USA is no different from most other countries in that almost everything
it does externally is purely for its own self interest.

I do not believe that people from the USA are hated. I believe that what are
hated are displays of arrogance as demonstrated in the quoted post and the
frequent claims that "we're right and everyone else is wrong" (to paraphrase).
 
Thinker said:
There you have it: can you blame anyone for holding the USA in low esteem
when you claim self-righteously that everyone else is driven by self interest and
the USA isn't?

The USA is no different from most other countries in that almost everything
it does externally is purely for its own self interest.

I do not believe that people from the USA are hated. I believe that what are
hated are displays of arrogance as demonstrated in the quoted post and the
frequent claims that "we're right and everyone else is wrong" (to paraphrase).


Alphamale said:
This is all kind of silly. EXCEPT for the U.S., what other countries do 99% of the time is what's in their self interest. ... The U.S. has done the heavy lifting to defend and advance democracy in the world for 65 years.

The first part of Alpha's post is not correct, in that the US doesn't sacrifice it's own self-interest on behalf of others on purpose, it's just that total boobs keep getting elected to office.

The second part of his post is spot-on, except it's been more like 90 years since we got dragged into WWI.
 
I care about the opinion of people I respect. to hell with everyone else.
 
Thinker said:
There you have it: can you blame anyone for holding the USA in low esteem
when you claim self-righteously that everyone else is driven by self interest and
the USA isn't?

The USA is no different from most other countries in that almost everything
it does externally is purely for its own self interest.

I do not believe that people from the USA are hated. I believe that what are
hated are displays of arrogance as demonstrated in the quoted post and the
frequent claims that "we're right and everyone else is wrong" (to paraphrase).

Fu ckem... who gives a **** if they like it or not. You don't like the arrogance than I say stop dealing with us arrogant Americans
 
Those 26 people that voted 'no' are part of the reason we had 9/11.
 
Thinker said:
I do not believe that people from the USA are hated. I believe that what are
hated are displays of arrogance as demonstrated in the quoted post and the
frequent claims that "we're right and everyone else is wrong" (to paraphrase).

I can only assume you don't actually read this forum. I see many, many, MANY posts from Europeans (in particular) and others doing nothing but berating the US and insisting that we 'got it all wrong' on everything from economics to religion. Time and time again, post after post others talk about how 'their way' is better and how we (the USA) are backwards for not doing it 'their' way, etc.

From an arrogance perspective, Europeans are typically 'off the charts' (with noteable exceptions, of course). Somehow its 'OK' when its not coming from and American though :roll:

Of course it is not limited to this forum. I hear in the news, read it, etc. I think you'd do well to recognise the double standard. I'm not saying we're not guilty of some arrogance. I'm just saying that we're not too different from anyone else.
 
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Billo_Really said:
Those 26 people that voted 'no' are part of the reason we had 9/11.

:rofl , OMG man, that was an AWESOME joke! Thanks! I really needed that. I had a rough day at work and that was just the intentional humor I needed to loosen up. Thanks!!:applaud :applaud
 
manthe said:
:rofl , OMG man, that was an AWESOME joke! Thanks! I really needed that. I had a rough day at work and that was just the intentional humor I needed to loosen up. Thanks!!:applaud :applaud

Hey hey no wait. I got a better one. What did the fish say when it swam into the wall.




















Dam. :rofl
 
Kelzie said:
Hey hey no wait. I got a better one. What did the fish say when it swam into the wall. Dam. :rofl

OK, I'll 'Bite' :mrgreen: , what DID he fish say when it swam into the wall?

And for you;

Why did the Elephant paint her toe-nails red?
 
Billo_Really said:
Those 26 people that voted 'no' are part of the reason we had 9/11.
27

As a Conspiracy Nut, I am legally required to believe that 9/11 was enabled more by past leaders than present ones.

In any event, my power ends at the pole. So please tell me: How does my first vote for Bush, while not caring what other countries think about the US, differ from another person’s first vote for Bush who did care about what other countries think? How is their “Bush” vote different than my “Bush” vote?
 
manthe said:
OK, I'll 'Bite' :mrgreen: , what DID he fish say when it swam into the wall?

And for you;

Why did the Elephant paint her toe-nails red?

My answer was at the bottom of my last post. Kinda blended into my sig. :lol: I give on yours.
 
Kelzie said:
My answer was at the bottom of my last post. Kinda blended into my sig. :lol:

Oh...I'm faaar too dumb to have picked up on that. But, I do get it....now :lol:

Kelzie said:
I give on yours.

So she could hide in the strawberry patch.
 
manthe said:
Oh...I'm faaar too dumb to have picked up on that. But, I do get it....now :lol:



So she could hide in the strawberry patch.

:rofl I love bad jokes. They are fantastic. Worst joke ever:

Why did the vampire wear suspenders?





















To keep his pants up. Ba dum ching!:mrgreen:
 
Kelzie said:
I love bad jokes. They are fantastic.

Ich auch!

Kelzie said:
Worst joke ever:
Why did the vampire wear suspenders?
To keep his pants up. Ba dum ching!

:rofl :lol:

Why couldn't the bicycle make it up the hill?


















because it was two tired :lol:

(I HONESTLY made that one up! Not just now, a while ago, but I did)


What is green and goes "slam, slam, slam, SLAM!"?















a 4 door pickle :mrgreen:
 
Bravo. :applaud I really like the bicycle one.
 
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