lizzie
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So have everyone else. A fact you refuse to accept
It's interesting to check out Orwell quotes on the Internet and how they still apply to today. That people prefer to be lied to, maybe feeling it's for 'the greater good', is probably mentioned somewhere in there as well.Yep. It's almost as if they think it is Chinese, Japanese, and Indochinese are doing this.
As Orwell said, "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
Britain needs more revolutionaries, by the looks of it -- real revolutionaries instead of all the childish leftist poseurs wearing their little fashion Keffiyehs and che teeshirts, offering up their quenelle salutes and mouthing every stupid terrorist platitude under the misapprehension that their doing so actually makes them look intelligent instead of so repulsively stupid.
You keep referring to "you people". Which are the "you people"?
The adults? People with a triple digit IQ? People from western culture?
Gardener said:I wouldn't call it terrorism in the classic sense.
Dave Jensen, 52, a builder who once employed Mr Salvadore as a labourer, said he had converted to Islam five years ago.
However he added that he had never behaved aggressively regarding his religion or beliefs.
Mr Jensen said: "Nick told me in passing he'd turned to Islam, about five years ago. But he wasn't in your face about it. He didn't try and convert others or talk about religion and politics at all.
It's interesting to check out Orwell quotes on the Internet and how they still apply to today. That people prefer to be lied to, maybe feeling it's for 'the greater good', is probably mentioned somewhere in there as well.
This is why the Brits lost their empire. .
I don't refuse to accept it at all. History is full of bloodshed on all sides. The difference is that today's Christians aren't committing widespread rape, cutting off heads, and crucifying people.
The evidence that they are a political movement is shown by the Muslim domination of the entire Middle East, the original home of the Christians and Jews, and now they are trying to force out both, claiming it belongs to Muslims, the last arrival on the scene. But the propaganda is such that freelance Jihadists, like the guy in this thread, and the left of course, consistently fall for all the 'Muslims are the victims' business.This is complete nonsense. Islamofascism as a political-religion has been around for a very long time. When hasn't it lead to brutal subjugation?
What's more interesting is that Orwell was a left winger. Funny how Gardener quotes a left winger who fought against the fascists that now quote him
Well, you see? The bolded is the joke in all this. If it were Christians we were discussing, the moderate Christians (which far outnumber the extremists) would not tolerate the extremist bull**** and savagery. They would put a stop to them like squashing bugs under their thumbs. The moderate Muslims are either cowards, or they live in fear of the extremist element, or they silently condone the bull****. Otherwise, it would not be escalating. I'd just as soon we weren't involved in it at all, but they have migrated to western democratic societies, and some of them have brought their barbaric bull**** with them, so we have to deal with it, like it or not.
It's interesting to check out Orwell quotes on the Internet and how they still apply to today. That people prefer to be lied to, maybe feeling it's for 'the greater good', is probably mentioned somewhere in there as well.
It is not hate. Islam is at war with the West. Great Britain is losing the war in their country. If the West wants to survive this war it will have to recognize that this war is ongoing and re-engage the enemy.
England is committing suicide. It frustrates me to watch it.
We will commit suicide as well. I can see that just as clearly. We are only a few years behind Europe. That frustrates me as well. England should do something about it but England won't. The US should do something. But the US won't.
Of course he was a left winger. Left wingers of his day fought against fascism rather than for it. If you do not comprehend the totalitarian nature of Islamism, you are far too ignorant to have any possible credibility here.
Maybe when you leave home you can actually start learning a little bit about the world around you instead of just spouting so many endless Islamist talking points like you do.
How can Islam get a thousand year time out when the West keeps meddling in the middle east? Its Western interventionist foreign policy that is fueling terror attacks in the west. Muslims will leave you alone if you leave them alone. Its as simple as that.
Can you provide any evidence of your claims that can compare with this?The Family-Family International-Children of God has been around since 1968 and is known for child abuse. Or the Church of Latter Day Saints cult which is also known for child abuse. Both are not being hunted to the ends of the earth.. in fact quite the opposite. There are many other cults or denominations of Christianity that do crazy things in the name of god and that leads to abuse, death and out right murder. It rarely gets in the news of course.
Maybe and maybe not. But who gave the west the right to be judge, jury and executioner? The problem with the world right now is that too many nations meddle in affairs that they have no business in.
The BBC is not a Far Right Racist Neo Nazi Party?
BBC News - Rochdale grooming trial: Nine found guilty of child sex charges
For a long while, the only groups reporting the Epidemic of Rape Violence by Muslims against non-Muslim girls were right leaning internet news groups:
Muslim Gang Rapes and the Left Blames Us
Epidemic: Muslims Sexually Enslaving Children as White Officials Turn Blind Eye Over
England sees epidemic of Muslim men committing pedophile gang rape.
But the problem has grown in scale and outrage until it can no longer be kept hidden by the MSM.
The Official Government of the Netherlands is now Acknowledging the Epidemic of Muslim Rapists:
Fjordman: The Norwegian Government - Covering Up Immigrant Rapes
The fact that you're using a debate tactic of smearing as "far right racists and neo Nazi parties" those who question the beheading incident as possibly.. Maybe... not sure, needs to be watched,.... a Muslim attack pattern, indicates there may be more beheadings to come, and it certainly lets U.S. all know were YOU are coming from!
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I'll remind you that an estimated 1.5 million British people took part in the anti war protests in this country prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The biggest protests ever.
The complete dismissal by Blair and his acolytes , along with all the other major parties showed two things
Their complete contempt for democracy and the very overall humane nature of the British public.
Had their attempts to stop the upcoming slaughter in Iraq had of succeeded things would be very very different now. They were unsuccessful which has led to the situation in this country deteriorating since that time
There are still many great Brits remaining, including the military, but they are being overwhelmed by the left, their ***** media and he rise of Islam. The rest of western Europe is worse than the UK.We lost our empire because we got bled dry fighting the Nazis for 6 years. Worth pointing out as well we have fought in Korea, the Falklands, both gulf wars, Afghanistan and the Baklands. in fact we have lost a solider every year sjnce WW2 so do me a favour and cut the small balls comments. Last time I checked the most successful terrorist attack ever happened in your homeland, its been over 10 years and these group's are still going strong.
That's it exactly, Lizzie. They seem to feel that hiding facts, while portraying Muslims as victims, will solve all their problems. You can see the effect of this strategy on many of these posters, as well as the guy who decapitated his neighbor.Omg, that is what their ****ing press is calling Asian? Seriously? No wonder none of this makes sense. They wont even be honest about who and what they are dealing with.
Based on what? History shows that living in tyranny is the fate of most of mankind. Appeasement sets the stage for longer, more deadly wars.
Leftists who don't care to read often make that claim. Perhaps you should actually read Orwell's work before making these calls.What's more interesting is that Orwell was a left winger. Funny how Gardener quotes a left winger who fought against the fascists that now quote him
Ask all of the people who currently reside in Guantanimo Bay and other " black sites " whether they believe in US human rights promotion.
Or the people held at Abu Ghraib during the Western occupation of Iraq
This phenomenon has been repeated throughout history and we can still see remnants of that with the Che T-shirts and coffee mugs.Is having an empire a good thing? At some point one needs to allow people to control their own destiny. Why SHOULN'T Indians have a say in what happens in India?
I do think a certain post-colonial malaise comes into play here, though. People have been so browbeaten into thinking any regard for their own culture is a sign of racism and the shortcomings of other cultures is all their fault that far too many have actually come to identify with the culture that wishes to destroy theirs. In a way, I am reminded of those silly white suburban kids in America who are low on intelligence and self esteem, but hungry for some sort of culture they can embrace, so they run around as if they are gangsta rappers. There is a certain rewards/punishment system that comes into play where there are such disincentives involved in embracing their own culture that they seek to emulate another -- one where they receive props from their peeps instead of condemnation.
I'm sure the same thing occurs in Britain, and is probably magnified by the colonial guilt in that when you take an uneducated teen low on intelligence and self esteem and create a climate where any regard for their own culture is taboo, they embrace the alternate culture they see around them. In this case, in order to act out, these immature people actually come to identify with Islamists, since that is the most dominant alternate culture around them. That is why they run around spouting terrorist talking points and calling people names if they don't join them -- it is really just their childish search for belonging.
What really bolsters islamists are the self loathing leftists living freely in the democracies, and recreating history to portray themselves as the aggressor, despite all the evidence we can clearly see in front of us today. This has been going on for decades and Orwell, who has rightly been mentioned more than once for his insights into human behavior, knew a great deal on this subject. So did Hayek. Free people turning on themselves is not a recent phenomena.About as frustrated as people are over our policies in the Middle East that have been beneficial to militant Islamic groups.
History shows an increase in human rights and freedom.
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