With Biden Looking On, The Remains Of 13 Service Members Killed In Kabul Return Home

[Big Steve]

Biden got us out of Afghanistan today. Something the 2 other Presidents before him failed to do. The country owes thanks to President Biden.

And, seeing as you've proven to be nothing but an abject failure at answering a simple question, you are hereby relegated to that steamy pile of human feces I refer to as my "ignore list".

You're dismissed...

 

[Str8BaLLin]

Hahaha those 2 people running this country have done absolutely nothing good. And you guys are really trying to bash Trump?. Take your blinders off. Biden has been worse than first term George Bush.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Civilians would've been pulled out first.

Period.

That they weren't is a failure on monumental proportions on Biden's part...

Yes, I agree we should have pulled more civilians out first. I don’t agree with the term“monumental” though. We did evacuate a ton of people 122k at last count. 5,000 something Americans. Also blowing past another date with Taliban poses it’s own set of risks as well.

 

[SkyFox76]

Yes, just read article and saw video on the Daily Mail website.

It appears to show him checking his watch.

Of course, the liberal media did not report this incident.

If President Trump had done it, it would have been page 1 headlines.

To be fair to that mentally fragile gentleman, he was doing something that many of us old people do who still wear wristwatches.

Because of his cognitive problems, however, he probably forgot to realize what such a movement would look like to onlookers.

Or maybe he didn't think Trump worshippers hair would catch on fire if he looked to see what time it was. Luckily he wasn't wearing a tan suit!!

 

[roguenuke]

Half a second after the ceremony ends is still the ceremony.

Doesn't surprise me liberals are excusing this behavior. Typical.

No. Once it ends, it is over. You don't get to say "well it was half a second after, so that counts as the ceremony".

How long does he have to wait to do something after the ceremony ends? What is the real end of the ceremony if not the end of the actual ceremony?

 

[BlueTex]

Civilians would've been pulled out first.

Period.

That they weren't is a failure on monumental proportions on Biden's part...

I keep looking for threads where the armchair generals were calling for civilians to be removed back in July... It's odd, not ONE armchair general started a thread about bringing American citizens, SIV's, etc. out of Afghanistan until after Kabul fell. At what date should we have started pulling out civilians? Should the president have ordered all American citizens to leave the country? On what date?

 

[roguenuke]

Civilians would've been pulled out first.

Period.

That they weren't is a failure on monumental proportions on Biden's part...

And starting to force civilians out, publicly showing that this was being done would have invited more attacks. Even with thousands of troops there and an agreement to do it a certain way, they couldn't keep all attacks from happening. If they would have been trying to take civilians out of Baghram, that would have been even worse (from what people who were there have said).

Hindsight gives everyone 20/20 vision and makes everyone believe they know who it "should have been done".

Now, there are definitely some things I disagreed with too. For one, no one should have been allowed to fly from the US to Afghanistan after May if not really even after January. All visas allowing such passage should have been revoked. That would have cut down on how many were there. And efforts should have been made to identify and contact every single American in Afghanistan to emphasize that we were leaving, they needed to leave then, not wait. We also should have worked harder at identifying those Afghan allies, those who worked with us, who we knew would need protection to get them out too, to at least identify them and their needs, what plans could work to get them out and started the processing if it hadn't already been started or restart if it was stalled.

 

[TheParser]

Luckily he wasn't wearing a tan suit!!

I had to search the Web to find out about the tan suit "scandal."

I had never heard of it.

I agree that a few Republicans were being silly geese for trying to make a scandal out of a tan suit.

Actually, President Obama looked fine in a tan suit.

More people should wear a tan suit.

Too bad President Trump did not occasionally wear one, too.

 

[highroller]

I didn't get the picture from a news source. I just found the picture.

And regardless whether it was "less than a half second" or longer, he DID look at his watch. That is probably optics Biden should have avoided.

So you admit that your picture misrepresents what you are portraying. It’s a nice way to say “I’m straight up lying”

 

[Big Steve]

So you admit that your picture misrepresents what you are portraying. It’s a nice way to say “I’m straight up lying”

How does it do that? The claim is that he looked at his watch during the ceremony.

He did.

Of course, I've no doubt that Biden felt he had better places to be...

 

[Big Steve]

I had to search the Web to find out about the tan suit "scandal."

I had never heard of it.

I agree that a few Republicans were being silly geese for trying to make a scandal out of a tan suit.

Actually, President Obama looked fine in a tan suit.

More people should wear a tan suit.

Too bad President Trump did not occasionally wear one, too.

The reason you never see world leaders wearing tan suits is because it's a "weak" color. It's not easy to contrast. Black, dark grey and blue are the easiest to contrast with a stark white shirt and a tie in a power color (red, blue or yellow). Just like a tan suit, you'll almost never see a President wearing a black tie.

Obama and Nixon favored blue ties. Trump favored red. George W. Bush and Clinton didn't really have a preference. Reagan and Bush I were anomalies, in that they wore just about everything. they'd wear light grey suits, tan suits, and Reagan even had a dark burgundy suit...

 

[Cope]

Yes, I agree we should have pulled more civilians out first. I don’t agree with the term“monumental” though. We did evacuate a ton of people 122k at last count. 5,000 something Americans. Also blowing past another date with Taliban poses it’s own set of risks as well.

While I do see it as a failure, what makes it of monumental proportions to me is that number. 122,000 evacuated and we only got out 5,000 Americans. The fact that we left ANY Americans there is MONUMENTAL.

 

[Bodecea]

Yes. Here was Biden..."looking on".

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And.....? Are you that sad and desperate?

 

[Bodecea]

No video. Just that picture.

I'm sure you can find it...unless the media has edited their videos like they've done before.

So, I was right. You ARE that sad and desperate.

 

[Bodecea]

A real President wouldn't have let them be killed in the first place.

So the last three in officer were not real Presidents?

 

[Bodecea]

Here's the video. He glanced at his wrist at the same time everyone moved their hands behind them. Less than a half second on the video. This is Fox News making bullshit up to please their fans.

Ah...so this is like the still shot of Former President Obama where they made it look like he was looking at some woman's butt.

 

[Bodecea]

A real President wouldn't have surendered to the Taliban, but that is what Trump did. Now we have to deal with the reprocussions.

You mean the president who invited the Taliban to D.C. and tried to invite them to Camp David....?

 

[Big Steve]

And starting to force civilians out, publicly showing that this was being done would have invited more attacks. Even with thousands of troops there and an agreement to do it a certain way, they couldn't keep all attacks from happening. If they would have been trying to take civilians out of Baghram, that would have been even worse (from what people who were there have said).

Hindsight gives everyone 20/20 vision and makes everyone believe they know who it "should have been done".

Now, there are definitely some things I disagreed with too. For one, no one should have been allowed to fly from the US to Afghanistan after May if not really even after January. All visas allowing such passage should have been revoked. That would have cut down on how many were there. And efforts should have been made to identify and contact every single American in Afghanistan to emphasize that we were leaving, they needed to leave then, not wait. We also should have worked harder at identifying those Afghan allies, those who worked with us, who we knew would need protection to get them out too, to at least identify them and their needs, what plans could work to get them out and started the processing if it hadn't already been started or restart if it was stalled.

Spin it any way you want. The inarguable fact is that American civilians, who are now in danger, were left behind in Afghanistan, and it was Biden who left them there.

You can "what if" this thing into the ground, but that's the inescapable reality...

 

[Bodecea]

I didn't get the picture from a news source. I just found the picture.

And regardless whether it was "less than a half second" or longer, he DID look at his watch. That is probably optics Biden should have avoided.

"I didn't get the picture from a news source. I just found the picture." Sure, Skippy.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

While I do see it as a failure, what makes it of monumental proportions to me is that number. 122,000 evacuated and we only got out 5,000 Americans. The fact that we left ANY Americans there is MONUMENTAL.

We should do everything we can to evacuate every single American but the deal Trump made with the Taliban happened in Feb 2020. The recent withdrawal timeline was announced and extended in April 2021. And there was about 9 to 10 days between the time our troops began to leave and Kabul fell for civilians to leave via commercial flights. There’s a certain point where it’s like, “Let’s go. Time to leave.”

 

[Cope]

Ah...so this is like the still shot of Former President Obama where they made it look like he was looking at some woman's butt.

I mean, not that I'd make a big deal about it... but he probably was (looking at her butt)

 

[vegas giants]

How does it do that? The claim is that he looked at his watch during the ceremony.

He did.

Of course, I've no doubt that Biden felt he had better places to be...

I demand a congressional investigation

 

[Bodecea]

Yes .. how patriotic .. right after Biden blamed his military leadership (and Trump) for creating this outcome because he used their advice to make decisions. All Biden is interested in is taking credit for taking responsibility while evading the actual responsibility. Pathetic. He is responsible for those 12+ American deaths and 90+ Afghan deaths .. him .. not Trump .. not his leaders .. Biden.

You should do something about it..............like go to Afghanistan to fight.

 

[Bodecea]

I demand a congressional investigation

I'm sure Gym Jordan or Matt Gaetz will demand one, if MT head Greene doesn't beat them to it.

 

[roguenuke]

Spin it any way you want. The inarguable fact is that American civilians, who are now in danger, were left behind in Afghanistan, and it was Biden who left them there.

You can "what if" this thing into the ground, but that's the inescapable reality...

How many were left behind? How many of those chose to stay, didn't know if they wanted to leave? Please show evidence.

I want to get those people out, but there was no spin in what I said. There is not much to be done with the situation that exists. But there are multiple other avenues to get those remaining.

And I don't see any actual plan from those who are complaining here about how they would and realistically could have done better. Claiming "well this is what they should have done" doesn't really work when you don't actually know the situation, take into account the entire situation there.