Wisconsin judge arrested by FBI, charged with obstructing immigrant arrest (1 Viewer)

[HumblePi]

Wisconsin judge arrested by FBI, charged with obstructing immigrant arrest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...judge-arrest-fbi-ice-immigration-enforcement/
The arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan is the first publicly known instance of the Trump administration charging a local official for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement.

Federal prosecutors have charged a Milwaukee judge with obstructing an immigration arrest operation — the first known instance of the Justice Department pursuing a criminal case against a local official for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement since President Donald Trump returned to office.

FBI Director Kash Patel announced the arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan in a post on the social media platform X, which he deleted moments after posting. Patel accused Dugan of “intentionally misdirecting” federal agents who arrived at the courthouse to detain an immigrant who was set to appear before her in an unrelated proceeding.
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And, there is it. The Trump DoJ has crossed the red line.

 

[braindrain]

Wisconsin judge arrested by FBI, charged with obstructing immigrant arrest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...judge-arrest-fbi-ice-immigration-enforcement/
The arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan is the first publicly known instance of the Trump administration charging a local official for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement.

Federal prosecutors have charged a Milwaukee judge with obstructing an immigration arrest operation — the first known instance of the Justice Department pursuing a criminal case against a local official for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement since President Donald Trump returned to office.

FBI Director Kash Patel announced the arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan in a post on the social media platform X, which he deleted moments after posting. Patel accused Dugan of “intentionally misdirecting” federal agents who arrived at the courthouse to detain an immigrant who was set to appear before her in an unrelated proceeding.
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And, there is it. The Trump DoJ has crossed the red line.

You do know know judges are not above the law right?

It is a crime to interfere with any federal officer or employee while they are engaged in the performance of official duties. If that is what the judge did, which is what the FBI is claiming why should she not be arrested.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Very tough bit of business.

Technically if the judge knew there was a warrant issued to make an arrest and she deliberately lied to facilitate an escape its being obstructed, and obstruction is what she did. Whether we agree with why she may have done it or not.

It would be an act of civil disobedience conducted by a high official. Such acts have consequences, as proper as they might be.

Not enough info to form an opinion yet.

 

[phoenix2020]

Very tough bit of business.

Technically if the judge knew there was a warrant issued to make an arrest and she deliberately lied to facilitate ann escape its being obstructed, and obstructs is what she did. Whether we agree with why she may have done it or not.

It would be an act of civil disobedience conducted by a high official. Such acts have consequences, as proper as they might be.

Not enough info to form an opinion yet.

Thanks, this largely captures my current state of opinion as well.

 

[Craig234]

For decades, 'safe places' have been off-limits to deportation agents - such as courts, schools, churches IIUC. trump reversed that policy and any undocumented people in court as defendants, victims, witnesses are now regularly grabbed. Judges and prosecutors regularly object to this.

FBI arrests judge for alleged obstruction of immigration arrest operation, Patel says in deleted social post – live

US Marshal Service confirms arrest of judge Hannah Dugan shortly after FBI director’s since-deleted X post accusing her of helping an immigrant ‘evade arrest’

www.theguardian.com

 

[braindrain]

For decades, 'safe places' have been off-limits to deportation agents - such as courts, schools, churches IIUC. trump reversed that policy and any undocumented people in court as defendants, victims, witnesses are now regularly grabbed. Judges and prosecutors regularly object to this.

FBI arrests judge for alleged obstruction of immigration arrest operation, Patel says in deleted social post – live

US Marshal Service confirms arrest of judge Hannah Dugan shortly after FBI director’s since-deleted X post accusing her of helping an immigrant ‘evade arrest’

www.theguardian.com

Judges and laws objecting to something don’t is rather meaningless. They don’t get to make that decision

 

[Airyaman]

Yugish thread here:

Judge Hannah Dugan arrested by FBI for allegedly helping undocumented immigrant 'evade arrest'

Not a whole lot of details about what she actually did, but it seems that now it isn't enough to openly criticize and defy judges, we are going to see some arrested. https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-hannah-dugan-arrested-fbi-allegedly-helping-undocumented/story?id=121161497&cid=social_twitter_abcn

debatepolitics.com

 

[Cameron]

Although I sympathize with the judge, that does sound like obstruction. Judges should not be helping criminal suspects evade law enforcement, especially where a warrant has been issued.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Judges and laws objecting to something don’t is rather meaningless. They don’t get to make that decision

That’s not true either.

You are denying the very real legal standing of precedent.

If the letter of the law says one thing, but it’s long standing practice says the spirit of the law is something else; if one can legitimately argue the spirit has standing precedent in law that has been understood and followed by the courts it’s the spirit of the law that might stand under judicial review.

Always a very tough case to make though.

 

[Gardener]

Good.

 

[SkyChief]

The FBI stated that they arrested a State Circuit Court judge on charges of obstructing immigration agents who went to her courtroom to arrest someone who was scheduled to appear there.

Judge Hannah Dugan of the Milwaukee County Circuit Court was taken into custody earlier today based on "obstructing an immigration arrest operation last week.”

“We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, Eduardo Flores Ruiz , allowing the subject - an illegal alien - to evade arrest,” - FBI Director/Kash Patel

source: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/othe...thouse-fbi-says/ar-AA1DCrsS?ocid=BingNewsSerp

It seems that the immigrant (Eduardo Flores Ruiz) was violent, and as such, would be subject to deportation. There were three charges of violence ("infliction of pain or injury") against the illegal immigrant, Eduardo Flores Ruiz.

Judge Dugan hid Eduardo Flores Ruiz in the Jury Room so that ICE agents wouldn't be able to arrest him. I think Judge Dugan will not be charged with obstruction, but she should be encouraged to step down from the bench. (resign)

 

[Noodlegawd]

Wisconsin judge arrested by FBI, charged with obstructing immigrant arrest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...judge-arrest-fbi-ice-immigration-enforcement/
The arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan is the first publicly known instance of the Trump administration charging a local official for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement.

Federal prosecutors have charged a Milwaukee judge with obstructing an immigration arrest operation — the first known instance of the Justice Department pursuing a criminal case against a local official for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement since President Donald Trump returned to office.

FBI Director Kash Patel announced the arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan in a post on the social media platform X, which he deleted moments after posting. Patel accused Dugan of “intentionally misdirecting” federal agents who arrived at the courthouse to detain an immigrant who was set to appear before her in an unrelated proceeding.
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And, there is it. The Trump DoJ has crossed the red line.

What red line? Are you suggesting that the judge did not actually obstruct a lawful arrest by federal agents, or that state court judges should be immune from prosecution for violating federal law?

 

[hooligan]

 

[Napoleon]

If post 11 is correct then she was hiding him from law enforcement in the Jury Room.

 

[hooligan]

If post 11 is correct then she was hiding him from law enforcement in the Jury Room.

Broken link.

I don't have any details - just sharing the perspective of an active lawyer who also used to be an FBI Special Agent.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

trump reversed that policy and any undocumented people in court as defendants, victims, witnesses are now regularly grabbed.

It wasn't "any undocumented people." It was a specific, named individual who was subject to arrest because he had previously been deported and had returned without permission. He was in violation of 8 U.S. Code § 1326, punishable by two years in prison.

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[HumblePi]

What red line? Are you suggesting that the judge did not actually obstruct a lawful arrest by federal agents, or that state court judges should be immune from prosecution for violating federal law?

That's exactly what I'm saying. The Judge knows the law, obviously. According to Stephen Miller, they're going after the "criminal left-wing judges".

 

[vanceen]

Lots more details would be necessary. That will not, of course, stop many people from making up their mind over who is the bad guy here.

The Trump administration's defiance of court orders is far and away the most worrying thing about this presidency. If this judge did in fact engage in obstruction, it makes things worse by giving them more of an excuse.

The obligation of the Executive Brance to obey court orders is perhaps the most important element of separation of powers.

 

[Napoleon]

Broken link.

I don't have any details - just sharing the perspective of an active lawyer who also used to be an FBI Special Agent.

From what I can find, the following is alleged to have occurred. Her clerk was informed that ICE was in the building looking for him and she then squirreled him away in her Jury Room and seems to have prohibited ICE from looking for him in her courtroom. ICE then had to present their warrant to the Chief Judge and come back to enter and search her courtroom by his authority and that’s where they found him hiding in the Jury Room.

 

[HumblePi]

Lots more details would be necessary. That will not, of course, stop many people from making up their mind over who is the bad guy here.

The Trump administration's defiance of court orders is far and away the most worrying thing about this presidency. If this judge did in fact engage in obstruction, it makes things worse by giving them more of an excuse.

The obligation of the Executive Brance to obey court orders is perhaps the most important element of separation of powers.

Didn't Trump just defy a Supreme Court order? (at least twice)

 

[vanceen]

Didn't Trump just defy a Supreme Court order? (at least twice)

That's what I'm talking about.

 

[vanceen]

From what I can find, the following is alleged to have occurred. Her clerk was informed that ICE was in the building looking for him and she then squirreled him away in her Jury Room and seems to have prohibited ICE from looking for him in her courtroom. ICE then had to present their warrant to the Chief Judge and come back to enter and search her courtroom by his authority and that’s where they found him hiding in the Jury Room.

If those are indeed the facts it looks as if she exceeded her authority and broke the law by obstructing justice.

 

[Napoleon]

If those are indeed the facts it looks as if she exceeded her authority and broke the law by obstructing justice.

Definitely looks that way. At the very least I’m having a hard time thinking of a plausible way he could be hiding in her Jury Room and she didn’t know and it shouldn’t have required the authority of the Chief Judge to override her for ICE to have a look around.

 

[HumblePi]

If those are indeed the facts it looks as if she exceeded her authority and broke the law by obstructing justice.

If she's not shipped to El Salvador overnight, we 'might' get to see a trial and get the facts. Of course, any trial would be up to cockeyed Kash Patel, so she's probably already halfway to El Salvador.

 

[Craig234]

It wasn't "any undocumented people." It was a specific, named individual who was subject to arrest because he had previously been deported and had returned without permission. He was in violation of 8 U.S. Code § 1326, punishable by two years in prison.

It's many people, and in this case, the objection isn't to them arresting him, it's their doing so in courthouses, and arresting a judge.