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Will you respect the findings of the FBI report?

Will you respect the findings of the FBI report?

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Kreton said:
I couldn't agree more that our entire government is a disaster. There is no America first. Parties and individuals are the primary focus. What is best for America is not important anymore to our government.
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If you don't mind, I'd narrow that down a bit. Instead of government, how about political parties, elected officials. I'm sure there are a lot of departments, agencies, bureaus and other government run organizations that put the country first. The military is basically apolitical or non-political as are a bunch more.

As far as our elected officials goes, we don't have Americans in charge anymore. We have Republicans and Democrats whose number one loyalty is their party, not country. With them, it is always what is good for the party, not the nation.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Popular vote does not win elections. Trump went for the win not the popular vote. The smarter person won.
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But that isn't what you said. That isn't what we are taking about. You are changing the subject and you are changing your statement - and I presume you are done with your failed argument from before then right?
 
Perotista said:
If you don't mind, I'd narrow that down a bit. Instead of government, how about political parties, elected officials. I'm sure there are a lot of departments, agencies, bureaus and other government run organizations that put the country first. The military is basically apolitical or non-political as are a bunch more.

As far as our elected officials goes, we don't have Americans in charge anymore. We have Republicans and Democrats whose number one loyalty is their party, not country. With them, it is always what is good for the party, not the nation.
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Yes I agree fully. I meant politicians and should have been more clear so as not to include many of the good hard working people who actually serve our country in various ways.
 
Kreton said:
Yes I agree fully. I meant politicians and should have been more clear so as not to include many of the good hard working people who actually serve our country in various ways.
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Exactly. Only the die hard partisans fail to see this.
 
This FBI investigation might turn out differently than anyone expects. In Brown's original written statement, she did not remember a bunch of details that would make an FBI investigation more efficient. They only have one week and only fuzzy details. If Brown suddenly remembers key details, to expedite the investigation, she could be sent to jail for lying to the FBI. Mueller was hoping to catch Trump in a perjury trap by catching him answering questions differently. The perjury trap may also be used on Feinstein.

Also, the FBI may need to look into how this entire circus began. They may need to know who contacted Brown, first, and why she wanted to remain private? Who in the Democrat party then leaked this to the press. Was this all part of a conspiracy to defraud? Who is paying the legal tab and when was this scam conceived? The rumors are this scam was conceived years ago when Mitt Romney was running for president and he mentioned Kavanaugh as a possible supreme court justice. There may have been crimes committed by the Democrats. One week is plenty of time of set perjury traps for all the accusers.

Judge Kavanaugh has been investigated by the FBI on six separate occasions as he moved up the ranks. If the FBI was to find something now, it looks like that were not doing their job in the past. This is not good for political optics at a time the FBI's image was tainted by the swamp conspiracies at high levels. They will not spend too much time on Kavanaugh, but will target the accusers, since they are fresh meat and can show the FBI is on top of its game. What may happen is the Democrats will be given choice of letting the nomination process compete or serious charges will be made public. The Democrats were tricked to step in do-do.
 
americanwoman said:
I'm kind of with you here. Each one is going to stick to their story to the end and with no possible other witnesses per their testimonies, it's hard to say what exactly happened.

We are talking about a decades old high school party, I just don't think it's likely there is one person who can honestly recall their memories about it without the bias from the recent events.

The only thing I think the FBI could actually get something more substantial on is that Kavanaugh was probably a jerkoff party jock in high school which is blatantly obvious but neither here nor there except he really should have been more forthright about it.
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And the left somehow portrays Kavanaugh as some kind of crazed drinker but for some reason Ford was only having milk and cookies that night. She was a 15 year old drunk, making her memory suspect.
 
Kreton said:
But that isn't what you said. That isn't what we are taking about. You are changing the subject and you are changing your statement - and I presume you are done with your failed argument from before then right?
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You asked "Will you respect the findings of the FBI when they come out?"

I answered "You mean the way Hillary and the left accepted the outcome of the election."

The answer I gave depends on whether the outcome of the investigation agrees me and supports my agenda. I am only slightly conservative and the half of me that is democrat can never accept the truth unless it agrees with me or my agenda.[/COLOR]
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Then you responded to my question with "You mean the election where she got millions more votes than Trump - literally millions more - then conceded and didn't challenge at any point?"

Now the left half of me agrees with your answer because that side of me cannot except the fact that Trump won by the rules. The left side of me must find some way to show that I won not matter if it is right or not. The left side of me cannot except and will not except reality unless it agrees with my point of view or my agenda.
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Now the right half in me will accept the truth and will accept the outcome of the investigation. So because a lean more right than left I will accept the outcome of the investigation. I hope this clears this up for you. While the right side of me will accept the outcome the left half of me will always look for a way to say I still won and never accept the outcome unless it agrees with me point of view and agenda.
 
Logician Man said:
I sure as hell wouldn't expect my 15 year daughter old who was assaulted by a 17 year old male adult to get any justice in your court room,seeing as you are on record in this forum as stating ' I don't care if a 17 year old male gropes a 15 year old female as long as there is no physical harm involved.'. Is this what you would sit your 15 year old daughter or grand daughter,or your 17 year old son or grandson down,and present as a moral guide for all to follow? What message does this send to our future generations?
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that's really stupid. we aren't talking about getting JUSTICE. IF THAT WAS THE ISSUE-Jong Jr should have filed a police report. a day after it happened a month after it happened etc. HASN'T HAPPENED

so stop the BS about this. This is a concerted plot by bitter Trump Derangement schemers to derail the administration in general and the nominee specifically. This has nothing to do with justice
 
TurtleDude said:
that's really stupid. we aren't talking about getting JUSTICE. IF THAT WAS THE ISSUE-Jong Jr should have filed a police report. a day after it happened a month after it happened etc. HASN'T HAPPENED

so stop the BS about this. This is a concerted plot by bitter Trump Derangement schemers to derail the administration in general and the nominee specifically. This has nothing to do with justice
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Why do you refuse to answer the questions posed following what you posted regarding 17 year old males groping 15 year old females? something you clearly believe is just fine and dandy as long as 'there is no 'physical' harm involved' per your own words? Most people I know from any political POV find those words to be 'really stupid',as well as totally irresponsible,disgusting, and dangerous. They are your words.You may run from them,but you can't hide from them.
 
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Logician Man said:
Why do you refuse to answer the questions posed following what you posted regarding 17 year old males groping 15 year old females? something you clearly believe is just fine and dandy as long as 'there is no 'physical' harm involved' per your own words?
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lets stick to the Kavanaugh matter-this is not about justice. this is about a manipulated woman being used as a tool
 
TurtleDude said:
lets stick to the Kavanaugh matter-this is not about justice. this is about a manipulated woman being used as a tool
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So run it is. Speaks volumes about your morality and crediblity,or lack thereof. And it has everything to do with Kavanaugh because he is accused of the very same thing you state you believe is perfectly acceptable,that being an adult male sexually assaulting a defenseless 15 year old female.Groping a female against her will,by legal definition,is sexual assault,and the victim is entitled to 'justice.'
 
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Logician Man said:
So run it is. Speaks volumes about your morality and crediblity,or lack thereof.
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More nonsense. I love the feigned outrage and if I don't go along with your moronic question, you try to pretend you have some moral high ground. Your few months on this forum have demonstrated another hard core Trump hater and those posts demonstrate a complete lack of an objective view on this matter. It has nothing to do with Ford and all about another Trump resistance supporter trying to stop Trump
 
TurtleDude said:
More nonsense. I love the feigned outrage and if I don't go along with your moronic question, you try to pretend you have some moral high ground. Your few months on this forum have demonstrated another hard core Trump hater and those posts demonstrate a complete lack of an objective view on this matter. It has nothing to do with Ford and all about another Trump resistance supporter trying to stop Trump
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nice deflection Mr.Prosecutor. Is it your contention that you are fine with 17 year old males groping 15 year old females against their will? my question doesn't have a damned thing to do with trump.You're not fooling anyone with your silly deflections and non-answers. It has every thing to do with YOUR morality and credibility, not Trump's,not Kavanaugh's,not anyone but YOURS.
 
TurtleDude said:
lets stick to the Kavanaugh matter-this is not about justice. this is about a manipulated woman being used as a tool
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No this is about a woman who came forward and was immediately called a liar and worse for no reason other than she did the upspeakable and spoke against a rich white Republican.
 
JMR said:
It might have helped if you had read the post to which I was responding before deciding I need your condescending schooling. Repeat of post 28:



To which I responded that the FBI finding no evidence does not prove him innocent. I am quite aware that he has no burden to prove his innocence. The rest of your opinions are noted.
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No. The point I made to you was germane.


Moot said:
Wrong, wrong, wrong...wrong, wrong, a wrong, wrong...wrong, wrong, wrong...wrong, wrong, a wrong, wrong...wrong, wrong, wrong...wrong, wrong, a wrong, wrong....
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Why yes you were, and as usual, continue to be.
 
Kreton said:
Regardless if you think Kavanaugh did it or not right now. Will you respect the findings of the FBI when they come out?
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If you were on a jury pool for a criminal trial and during the selection process the prosecutor asked you "will respect the findings of the police investigators?" what would your answer be?

That is the same question as this poll, isn't it? The question is "do you think trials and evidence should be eliminated and police decide all criminal cases?"
 
I would not take any police report at face value. I want to know and see the evidence.

Remember how much the FBI trashed MLK Jr? I gather nearly everyone answering this poll agrees with what Hoover said and wrote about MLK Jr, right?
 
Kreton said:
Regardless if you think Kavanaugh did it or not right now. Will you respect the findings of the FBI when they come out?
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Kavanaugh is a done deal. There is nothing more to respect.

Like President Trump, he will not be impeached. Unlike President Trump, it's not possible he will be removed.
 
I don't respect the investigation, so I won't respect its findings.
 
Kreton said:
No this is about a woman who came forward and was immediately called a liar and worse for no reason other than she did the upspeakable and spoke against a rich white Republican.
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Oh, and don't forget she couldn't prove a scintilla of what she said. I heard many say she was credible, how so? Women who are genuinely attacked, have been hurt by the charade she presented. She preyed upon the emotional sadness reserved for real victims of assault for her own selfish purpose.
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
Oh, and don't forget she couldn't prove a scintilla of what she said. I heard many say she was credible, how so? Women who are genuinely attacked, have been hurt by the charade she presented. She preyed upon the emotional sadness reserved for real victims of assault for her own selfish purpose.
Regards,
CP
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So if your daughter or grand daughter came to you and told you she had been been sexually assaulted, and couldn't 'prove a scintilla of what she said', you would write it off as a charade she presented, and was preying upon the emotional sadness reserved for 'real victims' ?
 
Logician Man said:
So if your daughter or grand daughter came to you and told you she had been been sexually assaulted, and couldn't 'prove a scintilla of what she said', you would write it off as a charade she presented?
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No. I wouldn't. But, the squirmy level at which the leftist play, doesn't alter my faith in my children. I believe she had an agenda and used the lowest tactic she could contrive. I hate that she did that, precisely because she could put my daughters word in doubt with some who look at Prof. Ford and would now find a reason to doubt.
Regards, you friend,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
No. I wouldn't. But, the squirmy level at which the leftist play, doesn't alter my faith in my children. I believe she had an agenda and used the lowest tactic she could contrive. I hate that she did that, precisely because she could put my daughters word in doubt with some who look at Prof. Ford and would now find a reason to doubt.
Regards, you friend,
CP
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Don't worry this is not over. There will be a real investigation with all the accusers of Brett in the House next year. The House will also get the records from the FBI to see how they were instructed and constrained by the Whitehouse in their investigation. Brett was the least popular candidate for the Supreme Court ever and the American people will get a thorough investigation and possible impeachment proceedings if the evidence supports it.
 
concernedpuma said:
No. I wouldn't. But, the squirmy level at which the leftist play, doesn't alter my faith in my children. I believe she had an agenda and used the lowest tactic she could contrive. I hate that she did that, precisely because she could put my daughters word in doubt with some who look at Prof. Ford and would now find a reason to doubt.
Regards, you friend,
CP
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But 'what you 'believe'' doesn't 'provide a scintilla of
proof' for anything, regardless of who presents it, correct?
 
iguanaman said:
Don't worry this is not over. There will be a real investigation with all the accusers of Brett in the House next year. The House will also get the records from the FBI to see how they were instructed and constrained by the Whitehouse in their investigation. Brett was the least popular candidate for the Supreme Court ever and the American people will get a thorough investigation and possible impeachment proceedings if the evidence supports it.
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Did I seem worried? I'm not. You either don't understand grounds for impeachment, or live in some leftist dream world. I think the Dem's, if they grab the House(?), will be too busy deciding who/what they are than to reflect much on the past. Then, if they do, they will have to get it past the truly reasonable..

Regards,
CP
 
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