Will there be another coup attempt if Trump loses or goes to jail?

[Galactic Spin]

Oh and Q anon was discovered to be a leftist disinformation tool-

What a freakish lie.

And if it were true, that wouldn't excuse the white wing Q freaks from being deviant, gullible morons.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Q anon was discovered to be a leftist disinformation tool-

uh-huh. Um, "neo"....are you going to connect any of this directly to Jan 6th....ya know....the topic?

 

[btthegreat]

I could see another 1/06 attempt if TFG loses again. But this time, we have a President who would protect the Capitol instead of inciting an insurrection against it.

Our problems will come in those swing states where MAGA forces have already rigged the system.

 

[neo publius]

The point of the Chinese operatives was it’s tied to the money Biden received. I’m not aware of any Republican politicians being infiltrated, but since I’m not a Republican and I am not defending them I wouldn’t be surprised. Nevertheless, if you sleep with dogs you’re going to end up with fleas.

 

[Galactic Spin]

The point of the Chinese operatives was it’s tied to the money Biden received.

A lie, of course.

 

[Phys251]

The point of the Chinese operatives was it’s tied to the money Biden received. I’m not aware of any Republican politicians being infiltrated, but since I’m not a Republican and I am not defending them I wouldn’t be surprised. Nevertheless, if you sleep with dogs you’re going to end up with fleas.

Proof of these claims?

 

[neo publius]

People Think This Whole QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is A Prank On Trump Supporters

"What the **** is wrong with boomers?"

www.buzzfeednews.com

 

[neo publius]

Proof of these claims?

If I had proof I am sure that Clinton would have had me suicided by now.

 

[Galactic Spin]

If I had proof I am sure that Clinton would have had me suicided by now.

Well that is some hilarious nuttery.

I wonder if you are for real. You seem like a caricature.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Oh my....are you trying to avoid me by not quoting my. That is a weaselly thing to do.

The point of the Chinese operatives was it’s tied to the money Biden received.

Whut? The Chinese agent that was Feinstein's driver was tied to Biden? The Chinese agent that seduced Swalwell ...was connected to Biden? This is some goofy shit, dude.

I’m not aware of any Republican politicians being infiltrated,

I told you there was a Chinese agent arrested at Mar a Lago. I guess Q network skipped that.

but since I’m not a Republican and I am not defending them I wouldn’t be surprised.

yeah, you are defending them, and attacking Dems.

Nevertheless, if you sleep with dogs you’re going to end up with fleas.

If you talk like a Q, yer probably a Q.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

If I had proof I am sure that Clinton would have had me suicided by now.

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

Did Vince Foster Shoot Himself 'Three Times in the Back of the Head' to Avoid Testifying Against Hillary Clinton?

An old conspiracy theory about the 1993 suicide of Clinton associate Vincent Foster, whose death was investigated by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, was dredged up again in September 2018.

www.snopes.com

Are you going to tie any of this to the OP?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

People Think This Whole QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is A Prank On Trump Supporters

"What the **** is wrong with boomers?"

www.buzzfeednews.com

Weird, nothing in that article supports your claim that Q is connected to the Democratic party, its members. It clearly states the followers are overwhelmingly GOP.

 

[Galactic Spin]

People Think This Whole QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is A Prank On Trump Supporters

"What the **** is wrong with boomers?"

www.buzzfeednews.com

Oh look, an article you didn't read.

 

[Emlee]

People Think This Whole QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is A Prank On Trump Supporters

"What the **** is wrong with boomers?"

www.buzzfeednews.com

Did you read past the headline? That’s not saying it was ‘discovered to be a leftist disinformation tool’, it said some believe it was all a left prank.

And?

People have been trying to figure who was behind Q since it began. It’s also been said that it was for certain to have been Ron Watkins.

Rational Americans have always know that Q is bogus and that Qanons are nutters.

The point isn’t who started it, the point is who believes it. The point is who believes all of Q’s crumbs, who believes and spreads all the conspiracies, who shows up at Trump rallies with their Q signs.

And the fact is that it’s still believed and followed by cult45, and it’s got quite a large following, not just a few scattered here and there. Many conspiracies originate with Qanon loons. Flynn speaks directly to Q loons. Qanon believers have even been voted into office. Q devotees have a large presence at rallies.

Your article is from 2018, and yet five years later in 2023 it’s still believed, Qanons and their conspiracies are still going strong. Imagine that.

 

[neo publius]

I don’t know why you think Q anon has anything to do with my interpretations of the facts. Like I said it is all related. I stand by my opinion. Unless you have facts that actually prove me wrong. So far, you don’t.

I didn’t read the article because I don’t have to. Whoever Q anon ended up as, it’s not the original person/people. Probably when they switched from 4 Chan. Nevertheless, they are not the basis for my opinion. I have not even read the posts.

This is simply deduced by reason and research. Not even Fox News, so if you think you’re shaming me for something you project on me- lol - think again.

 

[eohrnberger]

Wrong. Inusrrection means insurrection. Adding an adjective makes its meaning specific, as it relates to the adjective used.

Did you lose track that the definitions of the words 'precise' and 'specific' were being disucssed?

That you think so it not a surprise. But it is you who feels the need to twist facts.

No facts are being twisted.

Words really give you trouble.

The left's motivation for accusing insurrection and coup was the topic being discussed. Do try to keep up.

Again, go back to the definition of the word. But leave out your added adjectives. All of the facts tell us that an insurrection is exactly what happened that day. By definition.

By the left's cynical political push narrative.

You still have not responded to the question as to the differences in the riotous acts committed by the 'Summer of Love' rioters and the 1/6 Capitol rioters.

How unusual.

Seems obvious to me and many others.

Agreed. Your projections are obvious.

Do you find people like MGT and Boebert admirable? Some on your side in Congress are painfully ignorant, loud, and frankly embarrassing.

Off topic. Has nothing to do with the 1/6 Capitol riot.

It’s related. There would have been no insurrection if not for Trump.

Hypothetical and unprovable either way, so nothing more than your opinion.

Again, not a surprise that you say that. It is a current GOP talking point so you are doing your job.

Came to this conclusion on my own earlier than when GOP started talking about it, it was that obvious.

We are to believe that it was fine under Trump, but Biden and the dems somehow completely corrupted all these agencies in a very short time. Laughable, but not in the least believable. Such a novel would be rejected by any publisher in moments. You have to tell a believable story.

Correction. It was the Obama administration that politicized federal agencies and started using them as political weapons against political enemies. Recall the IRS Lois Lerner scandal?

All true though.

All your subjective opinion, and not very accurate at that.

No, it’s true. The GOP did use to be admirable in many ways.


You need some new material.

As do you.

 

[trixare4kids]

I don’t know why you think Q anon has anything to do with my interpretations of the facts. Like I said it is all related. I stand by my opinion. Unless you have facts that actually prove me wrong. So far, you don’t.

I didn’t read the article because I don’t have to. Whoever Q anon ended up as, it’s not the original person/people. Probably when they switched from 4 Chan. Nevertheless, they are not the basis for my opinion. I have not even read the posts.

This is simply deduced by reason and research. Not even Fox News, so if you think you’re shaming me for something you project on me- lol - think again.

It's been my experience that the Q anon card is played by those who had no argument to begin with. Just another attempt to silence their political foes.

 

[Lursa]

Didnt vote. Mine is 'probably' and 'I hope so' and that this time, we are prepared (IMO we will be) and kick their asses. They dont get to get away with mindless tantrums.

 

[BabaVoss]

Did you lose track that the definitions of the words 'precise' and 'specific' were being disucssed?

No. Insurrection means insurrection. Adjectives like "legal" apply in a court of law, not in common everyday conversation. YOU want to take that combination and apply it to every use of the word. Makes little sense, unless you are toting the party line.

No facts are being twisted.

You are doing so consistently.

The left's motivation for accusing insurrection and coup was the topic being discussed. Do try to keep up.

Who is "the left"? An insurrection occurred on Jan 6th. The topic is whether there will be another one when trump loses.

You still have not responded to the question as to the differences in the riotous acts committed by the 'Summer of Love' rioters and the 1/6 Capitol rioters.

This thread is about a repeat of the Jan 6th insurrection when Trump loses. There are multiple and quite significant differences between that day and other violent occurrences. They have been discussed here already.

Off topic. Has nothing to do with the 1/6 Capitol riot.

Josh Hawley raised his fist in encouragment to the 'protestors' - but ran like a scared cat when the insurrectionists broke into the capitol. Some congressional representatives on your side egged it on. Its relevant.

Hypothetical and unprovable either way, so nothing more than your opinion.

LOL. No one actually believes the Jan 6th insurrection would have happened if not for trump. He is the reason they were there. Please. Be serious.

Came to this conclusion on my own earlier than when GOP started talking about it, it was that obvious.

Sure.

Correction. It was the Obama administration that politicized federal agencies and started using them as political weapons against political enemies. Recall the IRS Lois Lerner scandal?

I see. So, Obama did it. Then Trump make everything great again. Then, in a very short time, Biden was able to corrupt the FBI, the CIA, and all these other agencies as you allege. Damn, he's pretty capable for a guy who is supposedly senile, sleepy, evil, and corrupt - depending on which GOP talking point you use. Either Joe is really very good or Trump really didn't make America great. Both are true, it seems. Maybe I should be even more impressed with Joe if that was the case. I'm glad he seems to be running circles around your guys while getting things done.

Meanwhile, trump is trying to dodge yet another criminal case against him, whining incessantly about how unfairly he is being treated, and how everything and everyone is rigged against him. The walls do seem to be closing in on sleazy old trump. Not a bad thing. I know, it's not relevant - other than the fact that he is the guy at the center of the insurrection.

All your subjective opinion, and not very accurate at that.

Still, it is as I said.

As do you.

I'd be concerned if you agreed with me on much of anything. I'm not worried. You seem quite firmly set in what to believe, regardless of facts. You fit right in with the current model GOPer.

/

 

[post]

The point of the Chinese operatives was it’s tied to the money Biden received. I’m not aware of any Republican politicians being infiltrated, but since I’m not a Republican and I am not defending them I wouldn’t be surprised. Nevertheless, if you sleep with dogs you’re going to end up with fleas.

Right-wing media stand by a supposed whistleblower and star GOP witness after he was charged with acting as a Chinese foreign agent

www.mediamatters.org

he was charged with acting as a Chinese foreign agent​

July 14, 2023

 

[Nickyjo]

Though I have participated in this thread, I believe, why do we care about definitions? Of course what happened Jan 6 met the definitions of a coup attempt or insurrection, but for some reason part of the MAGA faithful can’t accept that. So let’s all admit that Capitol visitors were having a seminar on the 2020 election, and things got out of hand. Alternatively, we could simply say that a lying asshole of a president couldn’t face election results that displeased him much as he refused to face them several times previously, and much as he predicted he wouldn’t while campaigning prior to November 2020. His gullible, naïve followers took him at his word, broke the law, threatened Pelosi and Pence, and trashed the Capitol looking for them on the occasion of the confirmation of Biden as duly elected president. No insurrection, no coup attempt. Does that help?

 

[eohrnberger]

No. Insurrection means insurrection. Adjectives like "legal" apply in a court of law, not in common everyday conversation.

YOU want to reject the results of the extensive FBI investigation and DOJ prosecutions. This is a denial of facts of the matter, as ascertained by the extensive FBI investigation and DOJ prosecutions.

YOU want to take that combination and apply it to every use of the word. Makes little sense, unless you are toting the party line.

YOU are taking the left's party line pushing the cynical politically motivated exaggeration of what was a riot, per the facts, as ascertained by the extensive FBI investigation and DOJ prosecutions.

You are doing so consistently.

See above about denial of facts.

Who is "the left"? An insurrection occurred on Jan 6th.

The topic is whether there will be another one when trump loses. This thread is about a repeat of the Jan 6th insurrection when Trump loses.

True. On that topic, in my view, extremely unlikely. The 1/6 Capitol riot was a conflagration of one time events and won't be repeated.

There are multiple and quite significant differences between that day and other violent occurrences. They have been discussed here already.


Josh Hawley raised his fist in encouragment to the 'protestors' - but ran like a scared cat when the insurrectionists broke into the capitol. Some congressional representatives on your side egged it on. Its relevant.

As part of a political rally speech. Are you going to arrest and charge ALL politicians who raise their fist in political speeches?

LOL. No one actually believes the Jan 6th insurrection would have happened if not for trump. He is the reason they were there. Please. Be serious.

Still nothing more than opinions, right?

Sure.

Believe whatever you need to believe.

I see. So, Obama did it.

Yep.

Then Trump make everything great again.

Not an assertion I have posted. But what is clear is that the political operators in both the DOJ and FBI need to be removed from their positions, i.e. cleaning house.
A two tired 'just-us' system delineated by political affiliations is simply not how the nation can go forward.

Then, in a very short time, Biden was able to corrupt the FBI, the CIA, and all these other agencies as you allege. Damn, he's pretty capable for a guy who is supposedly senile, sleepy, evil, and corrupt - depending on which GOP talking point you use.

This above conflicts with your earlier statement about Obama.

Either Joe is really very good or Trump really didn't make America great. Both are true, it seems. Maybe I should be even more impressed with Joe if that was the case. I'm glad he seems to be running circles around your guys while getting things done. Meanwhile, trump is trying to dodge yet another criminal case against him, whining incessantly about how unfairly he is being treated, and how everything and everyone is rigged against him. The walls do seem to be closing in on sleazy old trump. Not a bad thing. I know, it's not relevant - other than the fact that he is the guy at the center of the insurrection.

Hyperpartisan drivel.

Still, it is as I said.

You seem awfully impressed with yourself and your subjective opinion.

I'd be concerned if you agreed with me on much of anything. I'm not worried. You seem quite firmly set in what to believe, regardless of facts. You fit right in with the current model GOPer.

Whatever. Ignoring ad homs.

 

[BabaVoss]

YOU want to reject the results of the extensive FBI investigation and DOJ prosecutions.

Never said any such thing.

The 1/6 Capitol riot was a conflagration of one time events and won't be repeated.

I hope so. That scene of insurrection was horrific and should never happen again.

 

[BabaVoss]

"Josh Hawley raised his fist in encouragment to the 'protestors' - but ran like a scared cat when the insurrectionists broke into the capitol. Some congressional representatives on your side egged it on. Its relevant."

As part of a political rally speech.

No, he was walking across, near the security gate, but protected by the officers and barriers that would be breached shorlty after. He was in a safe place, but egged on the mob waiting outside. Later he fled when they came in.

Are you going to arrest and charge ALL politicians who raise their fist in political speeches?

Did I suggest that he should be arrest or charged? No. Just making the observation, which apparently struck a nerve. Sorry he is such a weasel.

Still nothing more than opinions, right?

LOL. No one seriously thinks Jan 6th would have happened if not for Trump. It is an opinion shared by most rational people. It's laughable to suggest otherwise. But you do you.

But what is clear is that the political operators in both the DOJ and FBI need to be removed from their positions, i.e. cleaning house.

What makes that "clear" to you? Anything specific, or are you just jumping on the GOP bandwagon?
Who should be replaced, and why?
Who should get to make that decision?
You don't 'clean house' just because you don't like the outcome of investigations or criminal proceedings. Your side has had a lot of sleazy characters get their due in the past few years. Sorry, but no one is above the law.

A two tired 'just-us' system delineated by political affiliations is simply not how the nation can go forward.

I agree. Trump should go to prison. We'll see if we have a fair system in the near future. If Trump gets away with stealing and hiding classified docs as he did, we will no longer be able to claim that no one is above the law. Then he will have several state criminal cases to wade through.

You seem awfully impressed with yourself and your subjective opinion.

Only sometimes.

 

[SkyFox76]

Life after J6. I'm thinking he's going with not just no but hell no for another round.