Will there be another coup attempt if Trump loses or goes to jail?

[Galactic Spin]

After reading that are you suggesting that Alphabet supports Trump? I guess in upside down land and fantasy land you have some kind of sense in that analysis.

Why would the DOJ, FBI, and CIA support a criminal foreign asset? They exist to protect the country from people like Trump.

 

[neo publius]

Here is what else the jackass said to incite the insurrection

— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

— “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

— “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” The crowd repeatedly chanted “Fight for Trump!” “Thank you,” Trump said.

He assailed “weak,” “pathetic” Republicans who were not standing with him in his push to overturn the election results, and said “there’d be hell all over the country” if Democrats had been robbed of an election win.

Nothing burger with extra nothing sauce.

 

[Demon]

Thanks for your lay and unqualified personal opinion. I think I will leave it up to Jack "the Ripper" Smith to determine if charges should be filed against the jackass for seditious conspiracy and/or insurrection.
This is FUN!

Oh, nice nickname for Smith! I like it.

 

[Emlee]

You just know that every morning when Stewart Rhodes wakes up to eat his rubbery prison scrambled eggs for the next 18 years he'll say to himself - whew I ducked insurrection charges!!

And his 18 years ducking those insurrection charges could potentialy become even longer. DOJ is appealing some of sentences, including Rhodes.

Justice Department appeals Jan. 6 prison sentences for Stewart Rhodes, Oath Keepers​

The Justice Department on Wednesday appealed the sentences handed down to seven members of the Oath Keepers — including founder Stewart Rhodes — for their roles in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, a signal that prosecutors are not satisfied with the severity of the jail terms delivered by the federal judge overseeing the case.

U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta sentenced Rhodes to 18 years in prison — the harshest sentence for any Jan. 6 defendant — reflecting his leadership of what Mehta characterized as a dangerous criminal conspiracy aimed at violently derailing the transfer of presidential power.

Nevertheless, the sentence for the Yale Law School graduate and disbarred attorney was seven years shorter than the 25-year prison term prosecutors recommended and four years below an agreed-upon “guidelines range” based upon Rhodes’ conduct.
In a series of filings, prosecutors also signaled they were appealing the sentences — all delivered by Mehta, an appointee of President Barack Obama — of several other defendants convicted for their own role in Rhodes’ alleged conspiracy.
Many of Rhodes’ coconspirators faced sentences that similarly fell below the guidelines ranges for their conduct — in some cases by several orders of magnitude. Among those who, like Rhodes, were convicted of seditious conspiracy:

• Florida Oath Keeper leader Kelly Meggs received a 12-year term; DOJ sought 21 years.
• Roberto Minuta of New York was sentenced to 4.5 years; DOJ sought 17 years.
• Joseph Hackett of Florida received a 3.5-year sentence; DOJ sought 12 years.
• Ed Vallejo of Arizona received a 3-year sentence; DOJ sought 17 years.
• David Moerschel of Florida was sentenced to three years: DOJ sought 10 years.

DOJ also appealed the conviction of two Oath Keepers acquitted of seditious conspiracy but convicted of conspiring to obstruct Congress:

• Jessica Watkins of Ohio, who was sentenced to 8.5 years in jail; DOJ sought 18 years.
• Kenneth Harrelson of Florida, who was sentenced to 4 years; DOJ sought 15.

Justice Department appeals Jan. 6 prison sentences for Stewart Rhodes, Oath Keepers

Prosecutors are dissatisfied with the severity of the sentences handed down by the federal judge overseeing the case.

www.politico.com

 

[neo publius]

Why would the DOJ, FBI, and CIA support a criminal foreign asset? They exist to protect the country from people like Trump.

Criminal foreign asset? Like taking money from China - Hunter Biden - like meddling in foreign prosecutions when your son’s company is being investigated- fraudulent Joe - like having a foreign agent drive your car for 17 years- Diane Feinstein- or having an affair with a Chinese asset - Eric Swalwell?

 

[Galactic Spin]

Criminal foreign asset? Like taking money from China - Hunter Biden - like meddling in foreign prosecutions when your son’s company is being investigated- fraudulent Joe - like having a foreign agent drive your car for 17 years- Diane Feinstein- or having an affair with a Chinese asset - Eric Swalwell?

No, not like any of that pathetic cult whataboutism at all.


We are talking about a criminal president who will soon be under indictment for 100+ felonies.

You need to step outside the bubble and get some fresh air.

 

[Peacenik]

This is crazy propagandizing peacenik and you do this all of the time and I am tired of it. But, your post is why there was a 1-6 commission, and why the DOJ is going after anyone that as much as entered the Capitol on serious charges, and why they send 20 FBI agents out to the home of a Catholic abortion protester. Your party wants the left to think that most of conservatives are fat right-wing extremists hell-bent on killing liberals.

The 1-6 event was not planned at all. The entry was a spontaneous event encouraged by Ray Epps and a few yahoos that broke the window. There were tens of thousands of people there and only less than about 50 tops were pushing and shoving and did anything close to breaking in. The rest were waved in. When you look at the videos of those who did enter, they were very peaceful.

But, FEAR SELLS, and that is what YOU and your side is selling and I am sick and tired of it.

So much wrong in that post. Let's unpack it.

Incorrect statement made.

There was no 1-6 Commission. There should have been an independent 911-style Commission to investigate the 1-6 Capitol violence, but Republicans killed it. Obviously, Republicans do not wish the full truth to come out about 1-6 because it was Trump supporters who attacked our government that day.

There was a bipartisan United States House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol that revealed the truth Republicans were trying to cover up by killing the 911-style Commission to investigate the 1-6 Capitol violence.

Whatever your opinion is of the Democratic Party, it is your opinion. It does sound highly flawed. The Democratic Party supports the truth being told and does not need to try to get people to think anything less of conservatives. We are all Americans. We have a great country. It is understood that people will have various opinions about politics, so we have a system of political parties to represent different views. We should be respectful and open to dialog. Well informed individuals of both parties understand that extremists do not represent the more centrist views of either party.

It is widely known that the extreme right hates government; hates the media; hates the left; has a lot of racists and fascists. Everyone should be aware of the risk and threat to domestic tranquility posed by the intolerant violent extreme right. It is sad that misguided individuals actually believe they can somehow prevail in a world of better-adjusted people. They should realize that they are outliers and will never get the mainstream to go along with them.

We really have a beautiful system. It is good that we have conservative and liberal views represented. Both sides can make positive contributions to guiding our self-government. Hatred and animosity are counter-productive. Discussions should focus instead on what is best for America.

 

[Peacenik]

Many who entered the Capitol on 1-6 have been let off with very light sentences, or not even prosecuted. Those who vandalized our property or attacked other people are being held accountable for their actions. Justice is being done. It is not correct to say serious charges are being brought against anyone who entered. Illegal entry into the Capitol as a part of that mob is a serious offense, but many have been let off without even having to serve any time if all they did was enter illegally. Everyone who entered should have know they were doing wrong because the doors were locked and windows were smashed to gain entry. They had to pass barricades that had been torn down and fought over. Any police who let the public enter were failing to do their duty. It is widely known that many of the protestors were also police, and that right wing authoritarians can be found on many police forces.

Investigations and court cases have proven that plans were made among violent right wing government hatred groups for violence at the Capitol on 1-6 in an attempt to prevent Biden from taking office. Trump told them they wouldn't have a country if they didn't stop the transfer of power. That is what they were trying to do. Sure, videos can be cherry-picked of trespassers being peaceful in the capitol that day. There are also videos of terrible violence. A well-informed individual should be aware of both.

A rational well-informed view of the event is not motivated by propaganda or fear, but instead by the facts. The facts are the best basis for properly understanding what happened that day, and how the maga crowd is misinformed and contains dangerous elements. We know that most people don't want violence whether they are conservative or liberal. It would be foolish to downplay the threat posed by right wing extremists.

Maga people foolishly believe in all kinds of unsupported conspiracy theories. Their beliefs are motivated by rumor and peer pressure, not investigative reporting. They are more likely to believe something they saw on social media than on a reputable news media. They think the government is out to get them. They feel victimized. Trump uses his conman techniques to tap into their irrational fears of the government. Donald is not above inciting violence.

 

[AZRWinger]

Then do it. You made the claim, show it.

You don't know how to use a link?

Remarks by President Biden on the Continued Battle for the Soul of the Nation | The White House

Independence National Historical ParkPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania (September 1, 2022) 8:03 P.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: My fellow Americans, please,

www.whitehouse.gov

Cue childish tantrum demanding spoon feeding.

 

[Luce]

There was no arrests for insurrection when a far left anarchist torched a police station in Minneapolis, instead he was charged with arson. Does that mean his act was not an act of insurrection?

Sorry, the guy that did that was a right wing extremist.

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ivan Harrison Hunter, a Texas rightwing extremist, bragged about helping to set the fire then was seen shooting 13 rounds at the building

www.theguardian.com

Man sentenced to 4 years for Minneapolis police station fire

The man must also pay $12 million in restitution for his role in lighting the Third Precinct headquarters on fire during unrest after George Floyd's death

www.police1.com

 

[Gimmesometruth]

All means to purge them are authorized.

That is an interesting display of your imagination. Can you post the specific passage to support this fantasy of yours?

Yes, I can.

Then do it. You made the claim, show it.

You don't know how to use a link?


Cue childish tantrum demanding spoon feeding.

Search for "purge"....zero results.

Shouldn't you be in summer school right now?

 

[IQ57]

Search for "purge"....zero results.

Shouldn't you be in summer school right now?

School’s out for summer in the real world, but definitely in session on this forum for the left.

Hopefully, you’ll learn something.

 

[BabaVoss]

That's twice he used 'Trump whitewash' and has yet to define it, or how it applies.

Pay attention. Here's what I said;

trump ushered in an era of whitewashing in politics unheard of before now, and his supporters use it as well. When the tape came out where he described being able to sexually assault a woman just because he was a ‘star’, he quickly came up with multiple defenses, such as “that was just locker room talk” and “maybe that wasn’t even me”. There Is a log list of things he has lied about, and he very often employs some form of whitewashing in order to diminish the impact to him. His followers have picked this up, and do so willingly - maybe even subconsciously. Like here. “That word doesn’t mean what it says in the dictionary because no one was charged with a crime named that.” It is absurd.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

summer school

School’s out for summer

uh-hurr-hurr-durr

 

[AZRWinger]

Haha, it's hilarious when you trumpers take a short pause from insulting and being cruel to everyone..

...to cry like little babies that someone is beng mean to you.

Classic projection.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Sorry, the guy that did that was a right wing extremist.

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ivan Harrison Hunter, a Texas rightwing extremist, bragged about helping to set the fire then was seen shooting 13 rounds at the building

www.theguardian.com

Man sentenced to 4 years for Minneapolis police station fire

The man must also pay $12 million in restitution for his role in lighting the Third Precinct headquarters on fire during unrest after George Floyd's death

www.police1.com

In either case, what he did was an act of insurrection against the local government there.

 

[AZRWinger]

Trump will pardon them all.

To pardon anyone Trump would have to be reelected, hurray.

 

[SkyFox76]

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School’s out for summer in the real world, but definitely in session on this forum for the left.

Hopefully, you’ll learn something.

Did the word summer throw you off?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

To pardon anyone Trump would have to be reelected, hurray.

nuh-huh....just like his declassifying POWERS, he don't need no stinking badges...

 

[Ethel2]

Nothing burger with extra nothing sauce.

That’s the thing about MAGATS-there’s absolutely no data, no evidence, no facts that will EVER convince them that they are wrong even though normal people see it clearly

 

[BabaVoss]

Whitewashing in politics occurred way earlier than Trump. The history of US politics didn't start with Trump, yet you seem to want to ignore all that came before.

Again, you aren't paying attention. I said "...trump ushered in an era of whitewashing in politics unheard of before now". So no. Your charges above are false.

It is absurd that you discard the far more precise legal definition in favor of pushing your demanded solely politically motivated political narrative as an attack vector.

The word in the dictionary is what people use. The "legal" definition you want to hide behind is for lawyers. It isn't "more precise", it is more specific for legal use - in court. We aren't in court.

The attack vector supported by the also solely politically motivated political application of the overly broad brush to people who were at the Capital on 1/6 but didn't riot, and even more absurdly people who were never at Capital on 1/6 but support political opinions and positions that you don't agree with.

No one saying anything about the people at the rally that didn't attack the capitol. We are talking about those involved in the insurrection. Period. Why the sideshow?

Suite yourself if you want to continue to be-clown yourself.

Hmm.

Continuing 'to call out stupid when I see it' and calling stupid people with differing political opinions and positions as 'anti-American criminality' is itself anti-American, anti-free political speech, and anti-Democratic.

Pretending criminals did not participate in criminal acts because they are supporting your candidate is un-American and blatantly partisan. No wonder the GOP is so often cited with "Party Uber Alles" motives.

You think it politically important, perceiving a cynical political advantage in doing so, that's clear.

I think it important that we maintain and uphold the rule of law. Even if it is politically uncomfortable. It's clear you don't. Another thing we have trump to thank for - you guys are willing to lie and cheat until you get your way. Because that is the trump way.


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[BabaVoss]

While seditious conspiracy is defined as an action intended to incite insurrection or rebellion how does one do that when they tell the crowd to march peacefully? They don't.

Trump also told them to fight like hell or they would lose their country. He's good at covering all the bases.

What's treasonous about telling a crowed to go up there and march peacefully at the Capitol?

That's not all he told them. Stop pretending you don't know that. The insurrection would not have happened if not for Trump. You know that too.

 

[BabaVoss]

Trump will pardon them all.

Fortunately, he won't get that chance.

 

[Ethel2]

No, not like any of that pathetic cult whataboutism at all.


We are talking about a criminal president who will soon be under indictment for 100+ felonies.

You need to step outside the bubble and get some fresh air.

Yeah, good luck with that. MAGATS quickly melt outside their bubbles like the Wicked Witch of the West exposed to water.

 

[Ethel2]

To pardon anyone Trump would have to be reelected, hurray.

Only real traitors think that the Jan 6 convicted criminals should be pardoned for their heinous crimes that include seditious conspiracy among others. Then again MAGATS aren’t really Americans, are they.