Will there be another coup attempt if Trump loses or goes to jail?

[beefheart]

While "coup attempt" wasn't?
I get it, this is a prime source of policital slap stick, but even the idea that a coup attempt happened. Has been a running joke for some time now.

Oh, who did you use to be here?

I can think of a few people.....A Linoge, Big Steve, et al....

 

[Hamish Howl]

It was so nice when they left. Sure we had the usual morons, but now its the constant trolling and propaganda bullshit.

Or the two of them talking smack between themselves about others in the usual 3 page circle jerk.

 

[beefheart]

Nice try. We all saw your adios post on your profile page.

If only some people would have the decency to stand by their actions.

TD got banned and his followers, went with him like good little robots.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Oh, who did you use to be here?

I can think of a few people.....A Linoge, Big Steve, et al....

At first I thought Linoge, but now I'm thinking Big Steve.

 

[beefheart]

Whatever you need to believe.

My last post on this doomed thread.

Oh, if only.....

 

[beefheart]

Or the two of them talking smack between themselves about others in the usual 3 page circle jerk.

It is a cancer to this forum.

 

[beefheart]

At first I thought Linoge, but now I'm thinking Big Steve.

AKA...so many names I forgot them.

Posters like that always have a "tell".

 

[IQ57]

Oh, who did you use to be here?

I can think of a few people.....A Linoge, Big Steve, et al....

Or the two of them talking smack between themselves about others in the usual 3 page circle jerk.

If only some people would have the decency to stand by their actions.

TD got banned and his followers, went with him like good little robots.

At first I thought Linoge, but now I'm thinking Big Steve.

Oh, if only.....

It is a cancer to this forum.

AKA...so many names I forgot them.

Posters like that always have a "tell".

Patting each other on the back with hate and lies as the world burns around you trying to claim victory.

That’s how sewing circles work. (Along with other unmentionable circles you are participating in)

Welcome to the cult of the brainwashed.

 

[Paradoxical]

They are among the most gullible people on the planet. Trump hasn't lifted a finger to actually help any of them. He took part in that J6 choir thing that was suppose to raise money for the J6 prisoners lawyers. Trump buddy Cynthia Hughes took off with that money (Approx $500,000). Now you'd think that billionaire Trump could have stepped up and replaced it, but he stayed silent.

So after being screwed over with his "I'll grant pardons" after his never stepping up to offers funds, after stepping aside when the $500,000 vanished, there are STILL some idiots (both incarcerated and outside supporters) that think he'll actually pardon them once elected. They are the real life version of Charlie Brown/Lucy football scenario.

Lol

 

[Paradoxical]

Is that you admitting jealousy?

You have less than 40,000

Reaction score is double. Could it be from the majority of people on social media are left leaning and cult like? Ilk? Group think? Following the narrative of propaganda?

Don’t stray away from the plantation or you will be chastised?

Looks like the brainwashing is working.

I hope the Dems don’t try stealing the election again.

Facebook did a devious experiment with younger people to find out their emotional reactions to “likes” and they with held likes that were given. They found some young people became suicidal when their friends did not “like” their posts (so the posters thought).

I don’t care if I get any likes. I suppose if this forum were filled with conservatives I may have lots of them. I really am here to teach and make people think and laugh. It is an odd hobby I have I know. I don’t like preaching to a choir. Liberals seem to though. Trump doesn’t give a whit if people don’t like him. He was here to make America Great and in 2024 he’ll do it again. Biden couldn’t beat anyone at this point.

 

[Paradoxical]

1. You are correct that seditious conspiracy carries 20 years. Insurrection carries 10. Seditious conspiracy is a more serious version of insurrection, and requires that it be planned.

2. 8 people have been convicted of seditious conspiracy so far.

Four Oath Keepers Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

Four members of the Oath Keepers were found guilty today by a jury in the District of Columbia of seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

www.justice.gov

Jury Convicts Four Leaders of the Proud Boys of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

A jury in the District of Columbia today returned guilty verdicts on multiple felonies against five members of the Proud Boys, finding four of the defendants guilty of seditious conspiracy for their actions before and during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

www.justice.gov

We know this DOJ hates conservatives

 

[Ethel2]

We know this DOJ hates conservatives

You have that wrong.
“Conservatives hate Justice”
Fixed

 

[IQ57]

You have that wrong.
“Conservatives hate Justice”
Fixed

Conservatives are for law and order and embrace justice.

The current justice in the DNC is one-sided and corrupt, and you folks love it.

Weaponizing politics is what the left is doing.

Autocratic rule for one side. Get in line, do as you are told, or you will be cast out.

“Power and control will lead to your own demise, since they are tricking you with their lies.” - IQ57

“The lies may change, but the facts remain the same.” - IQ57

It’s easier to be fooled, than to be convinced you are fooled.

Who’s embracing the propaganda the most with lies and hate? The left

Social media and social engineering.

Technology for all, so they can wash your brains and lead you where they want, the path to your own destruction. And they want you to drag the rest of us down with you. It explains all the hate we see that gets injected into people with the propaganda meant to divide.

Your post is a prime example of this.

 

[Peacenik]

The proud boys and oath keepers likely have no interest in calling prison home like their leaders and co-clowns are enjoying.

Bryan Mock was just found guilty today so he can look forward to dry bread and green baloney sandwiches. At least he saved some money by choosing to represent himself.

Minnesota Man Found Guilty of Four Assaults on Law Enforcement During Jan. 6 Capitol Breach - Defendant Kicked Fallen Officer, Shoved Police, Threw Flagpole at Officers, and Stole Riot Shields

Minnesota Man Found Guilty of Four Assaults on Law Enforcement During Jan. 6 Capitol Breach - Defendant Kicked Fallen Officer, Shoved Police, Threw Flagpole at Officers, and Stole Riot Shields

goldrushcam.com

So that's what he thinks "being a patriotic American' is? Shoving and kicking at officers protecting our capitol? Breaking flagpoles in half and hurling the staff like a spear at officers? Stealing riot shields, depriving them of protection against the mob as they are trying to protect our government? Vandalizing the Capitol? Preventing Congress from finalizing the election Trump lost?

He needs to get put away for a long time.

Hopefully the most aggressive and violent right wingers from all over the country already went to DC on January 6th 2021 and are now being rounded up, tried, convicted and put away. They won't be available to cause more trouble when Trump tries to incite more violence against our nation.

Alexander Hamilton:

"When a man unprincipled in private life[,] desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper . . . despotic in his ordinary demeanour — known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty — when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity — to join in the cry of danger to liberty — to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion — to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day — It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may 'ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.'"

 

[eohrnberger]

Because they didn't.


True, but it does provide context for their behavior.

Interesting what you pick and chose which context you'll maintain, and which contexts you drop. Quite telling, actually.

They would not have engaged in an insurrection and Trump not asked them to do so - even if you want to pretend that they made that up in their heads.

I didn't. You ignored the insurrection, and pretended that were permitted to do what they did. They weren't.

Not claiming the riot was permitted, that would be simply rediculous. What is a fact that the political demonstration on the Capital grounds was legally permitted.

Dozens of people reported the same. They were there at Trump's behest. Over 150 people. Did they all just imagine it?


Yes they are. That is why many of them are in prison now.


I know better than to listen to a serial liar. Not everyone does, apparently.

You resort to childish insults. Yet you know Trump incited them.

Yet to be proven.

Members of the Oath Keepers terrorist group were convicted of sedition. Members of the Proud Boys terrorist group were convicted of seditious conspiracy.

True. What is also true is that all the other people the FBI have arrested and all the other people the DOJ has prosecuted were not members of that group, so accurate to say the seditious conspiracy charges apply to a tiny fraction of the people, 0.01% per the numbers you provided in an earlier post. This invalidates the overly broad bush lefties apply to all the people who participated in the legally permitted political demonstration on the Captial grounds.

What changed?

First it's 6 people charged with more serious crimes (as I quoted your post), and then it's 'Several Groups' (as I quoted your post).
Is this not a change? So which is it? 6 people or 'Several Groups'? If several groups, list them.

Look up. “…but I’m sure the spectacle of it made Trump happy, and perhaps he thought the chaos would help sway Pence into doing his bidding.”

There is still no 'perhaps' in that sentence.

There no question. You wouldn't survive a high school debate team once.

Pointless ad hom.

I see.


There is much that you don't know.

 

[Peacenik]

The barriers were moved, the police stood down except for the ones at the capitol steps and the “protesters” were infiltrated by Anti Fa and the FBI, so whoever was there was being incited not by Trump, but by Democrats who wanted the results they got. They were probably disappointed it wasn’t worse.

Any police who removed barriers were aiding and abetting the insurrection.

Show us evidence of antifa causing this. It's simply not there. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers planned and executed violence at the capitol, not antifa.

If any FBI took part it was because they are far right and not acting on any official orders to disrupt the government.

Trump was the one who called for the mob to gather. Trump was the one who gave a speech and whipped them up into a frenzy. Trump was the one who sent them to the Capitol. Trump is guilty of inciting an insurrection. Trump needs to stand trial for it and get put away for life.

Anyone who gets the facts and gets truly informed knows all of this.

There are no 'alternate facts.' There are only lies, rumors and propaganda of the right.

Big money funds the propaganda of the far right. Big money wants America bitterly divided because that allows big money to corrupt our government, knowing that we the people will be bickering over basic facts while they butter up the office holders and get their way. That's why big money is increasing their wealth at a higher rate than everybody else. We need more people to see the big picture about big money so we can make some big changes in the USA. That is how we regain control of our government for we, the people. Not by attacking it.

 

[Paradoxical]

Any police who removed barriers were aiding and abetting the insurrection.

Show us evidence of antifa causing this. It's simply not there. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers planned and executed violence at the capitol, not antifa.

If any FBI took part it was because they are far right and not acting on any official orders to disrupt the government.

Trump was the one who called for the mob to gather. Trump was the one who gave a speech and whipped them up into a frenzy. Trump was the one who sent them to the Capitol. Trump is guilty of inciting an insurrection. Trump needs to stand trial for it and get put away for life.

Anyone who gets the facts and gets truly informed knows all of this.

There are no 'alternate facts.' There are only lies, rumors and propaganda of the right.

Big money funds the propaganda of the far right. Big money wants America bitterly divided because that allows big money to corrupt our government, knowing that we the people will be bickering over basic facts while they butter up the office holders and get their way. That's why big money is increasing their wealth at a higher rate than everybody else. We need more people to see the big picture about big money so we can make some big changes in the USA. That is how we regain control of our government for we, the people. Not by attacking it.

You really outdid yourself in your projection with that post.

 

[Ikari]

Will MAGAs try to overthrow the government again if their cult leader either goes to jail or loses the election?

Maybe, I think the fact that the 1/6 Seditionists are being punished may make them reconsider. Or they may just reconsider to up the violence.

 

[Indydave]

Will MAGAs try to overthrow the government again if their cult leader either goes to jail or loses the election?

my guess is no.....unless it comes down to a few votes difference.......the peril imo is that so many conservatives are willing to support a person like Trump.......if 70 million voters are convinced that an overthrow of the government because they cannot live with the fact that there are millions of people who are liberal then this could lead to another 1/6 or worse.......the nazis 1930's

we have to start somewhere doing a better job of publicly educating the masses...history and civics need to be emphasized more ......conservatives are lost in this religious homophobic white supremacy belief system and it is nothing less than stupid and contrary to the Constitution in more than one way..............liberals are lost in their desire to 'protect' every minority that comes along the pike with specific laws for that particular minority.....

 

[Paradoxical]

Maybe, I think the fact that the 1/6 Seditionists are being punished may make them reconsider. Or they may just reconsider to up the violence.

The DOJ will have to revamp its efforts of destroying conservatives by going after people who talk smack about Bud Light and Target with early morning raids and confiscating their posting history on DP and indicting them for treason or something.

 

[HumblePi]

Will MAGAs try to overthrow the government again if their cult leader either goes to jail or loses the election?

I voted 'no'. I believe that contained within the thousands of pieces of evidence, guilt will be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt and Trump will be convicted on at least five of the 37 counts against him. It is already obvious that he willfully and knowingly broke the law by intentionally lying about the documents.

Many former Trump supporters, even some hosts on Fox News, have distanced themselves. Many people that took part in the Jan 6 insurrection have shown remorse and acknowledge that Trump led them there and used them for his own political ambition. They describe themselves as 'victims of persecution'.

I don't believe for a minute that ultimately, when the trial is finished, there would be more than a small crowd of people that would still put themselves in danger for Trump by committing more violence in his name.

 

[Paradoxical]

I voted 'no'. I believe that contained within the thousands of pieces of evidence, guilt will be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt and Trump will be convicted on at least five of the 37 counts against him. It is already obvious that he willfully and knowingly broke the law by intentionally lying about the documents.

Many former Trump supporters, even some hosts on Fox News, have distanced themselves. Many people that took part in the Jan 6 insurrection have shown remorse and acknowledge that Trump led them there and used them for his own political ambition. They describe themselves as 'victims of persecution'.

I don't believe for a minute that ultimately, when the trial is finished, there would be more than a small crowd of people that would still put themselves in danger for Trump by committing more violence in his name.

Which of those 37 counts has anything to do with 1-6?

Oh, and who was charged with "insurrection"?

 

[Ikari]

The DOJ will have to revamp its efforts of destroying conservatives by going after people who talk smack about Bud Light and Target with early morning raids and confiscating their posting history on DP and indicting them for treason or something.

lol

More conspiracy and victim carding from you. Though it is to be expected. Sorry you're still making excuses for sedition.

 

[BabaVoss]

Interesting what you pick and chose which context you'll maintain, and which contexts you drop. Quite telling, actually.

I’ve been quite consistent.

Not claiming the riot was permitted, that would be simply rediculous.

It was a dumb thing to imply.

What is a fact that the political demonstration on the Capital grounds was legally permitted.

So you answered an unasked question.

Yet to be proven.

Pretty easy to see, unless you want to deny it. Then you never will.

True. What is also true is that all the other people the FBI have arrested and all the other people the DOJ has prosecuted were not members of that group, so accurate to say the seditious conspiracy charges apply to a tiny fraction of the people, 0.01% per the numbers you provided in an earlier post. This invalidates the overly broad bush lefties apply to all the people who participated in the legally permitted political demonstration on the Captial grounds.

I haven’t applied any label to all the people at the rally. As to the insurrection question, it doesn’t matter how many people were involved or what percentage of people from the legally permitted rally participated. (Do you see how silly your argument is here?)

It was an insurrection.

First it's 6 people charged with more serious crimes (as I quoted your post), and then it's 'Several Groups' (as I quoted your post).
Is this not a change? So which is it? 6 people or 'Several Groups'? If several groups, list them.

I did.

There is still no 'perhaps' in that sentence.

THere is. Not sure what to tell you. You are reading the wrong sentence.

Pointless ad hom.

An accurate observation.

 

[Winston]

I voted 'no'. I believe that contained within the thousands of pieces of evidence, guilt will be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt and Trump will be convicted on at least five of the 37 counts against him. It is already obvious that he willfully and knowingly broke the law by intentionally lying about the documents.

Many former Trump supporters, even some hosts on Fox News, have distanced themselves. Many people that took part in the Jan 6 insurrection have shown remorse and acknowledge that Trump led them there and used them for his own political ambition. They describe themselves as 'victims of persecution'.

I don't believe for a minute that ultimately, when the trial is finished, there would be more than a small crowd of people that would still put themselves in danger for Trump by committing more violence in his name.

With each indictment trump gets an indictment bump in the polls…