Will there be a middle class rebellion against progressives?

[CaughtInThe]

There will be a Confederate uprising against progressives.

It's already started.

 

[coco]

Who cares

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I thought this opinion piece might be discussion worthy. Here are some parts which stood out to me.
"But the current focus on "systemic racism," coupled with a newfound and heavily enforced cultural conformism and the obsessive focus on a never-ending litany of impending "climate emergences" are less likely to pass muster with most of the middle class, no matter how popular they are with the media, academics, and others in the progressive corner."
I don't think the majority of Americans view the U.S. as having a "systemic racism" problem and, like me, many just feel the narrative creates unnecessary division. Then, "cultural conformism". IMO, the Dems have lost their way with their insistence that all must conform to their views. It's obnoxious and very unrealistic. It's another situation causing unnecessary division, IMO. Finally, the climate crisis. I have long thought there is way too much drama around a highly vague and undefined issue. The supposed solutions are just extremely expensive guesses which, actually, may end up doing more harm than good, be ever so costly to the average American and make services we've grown to rely on and count on - spotty and inconsistent.
"And this new middle-class rebellion is being bolstered by a wide-ranging intellectual rebellion by traditional liberals against the Left's dogmatism and intolerance."
Oh, the leftist intolerance! I simply agree it would be hard for it to not generate rebellion.
"Biden is similarly losing the middle class on immigration."
The border and crime is where I think the Dems and Biden will suffer the most consequences. I disagree with the author who thinks climate policy will be the biggest Dem problem - because I think many of those bills will really struggle to pass. But, back to the border. There is simply no acceptable or feasible justification for what Biden has deliberately created at the border and the ramifications of the open border to the U.S..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...-steam-opinion/ar-AAKGpvT?ocid=BingNewsSearch

A middle class rebellion against progressives isn't going anywhere until there's a political option other than Trumpism.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Most true Middle Classers are intelligent and educated. So, no.....

Ad hominem responses are not an argument. So, yeah...

 

[Captain Adverse]

The author’s biography suggests that he isn’t a conservative, he is a registered Democrat for example, and Newsweek is a center publication so I’m not sure you dismiss his arguments out of hand.

Good point. I have conservative views on some topics, liberal views on others, and in a few cases what some might call radical ones.

Posts like the one you responded to only serve to demonstrate one's confirmation bias, and a refusal to see any possibility that all of the people don't have to agree with all of one's views all the time. (To paraphrase Mr. Lincoln.)

 

[The AntiDonald]

I, too, hope that the Silent Majority will reassert itself in the 2022 Congressional elections -- assuming that the elections are honest.

This notion of a silent majority was put to death last Nov. 3rd. The real loud majority voted for Biden. Trump was dumped. Anything left of Trumpism being a majority is just delusional.

 

[coco]

Good point. I have conservative views on some topics, liberal views on others, and in a few cases what some might call radical ones.

Posts like the one you responded to only serve to demonstrate one's confirmation bias, and a refusal to see any possibility that all of the people don't have to agree with all of one's views all the time. (To paraphrase Mr. Lincoln.)

I don't like you. I don't even like your avatar. Everything about you is wrong. Your pompous.

 

[Gaius46]

I don't like you. I don't even like your avatar. Everything about you is wrong. Your pompous.

I don’t like people who use “your” when they’re supposed to use “you’re”.

Get up on the wrong side of the bed today?

 

[tshade]

Ad hominem responses are not an argument. So, yeah...

????? you wanted an opinion----I gave one. Middle Class is generally educated, as are progressives..........Viola

 

[AGENT J]

Oh, you know - that "bat shit insane tinfoil hat corner of the internets" - Newsweek.

Newsweek OPINION thanks for changing NOTHING lol

just like i said,

"Wow what bat shit insane tinfoil hat corner of the internets did is this false narrative being pumped out of LMAO

anyway . . . no, there will be no middle-class rebellion progressives no matter what that made-up definition that means this week.

probably 95% of people I know are middle class or lower and i dont hear this narrative about a "middle class" rebellion right, left, center, black, white, independent etc etc"

 

[MAGAnificent]

I thought this opinion piece might be discussion worthy. Here are some parts which stood out to me.

"But the current focus on "systemic racism," coupled with a newfound and heavily enforced cultural conformism and the obsessive focus on a never-ending litany of impending "climate emergences" are less likely to pass muster with most of the middle class, no matter how popular they are with the media, academics, and others in the progressive corner."

I don't think the majority of Americans view the U.S. as having a "systemic racism" problem and, like me, many just feel the narrative creates unnecessary division. Then, "cultural conformism". IMO, the Dems have lost their way with their insistence that all must conform to their views. It's obnoxious and very unrealistic. It's another situation causing unnecessary division, IMO. Finally, the climate crisis. I have long thought there is way too much drama around a highly vague and undefined issue. The supposed solutions are just extremely expensive guesses which, actually, may end up doing more harm than good, be ever so costly to the average American and make services we've grown to rely on and count on - spotty and inconsistent.

"And this new middle-class rebellion is being bolstered by a wide-ranging intellectual rebellion by traditional liberals against the Left's dogmatism and intolerance."

Oh, the leftist intolerance! I simply agree it would be hard for it to not generate rebellion.

"Biden is similarly losing the middle class on immigration."

The border and crime is where I think the Dems and Biden will suffer the most consequences. I disagree with the author who thinks climate policy will be the biggest Dem problem - because I think many of those bills will really struggle to pass. But, back to the border. There is simply no acceptable or feasible justification for what Biden has deliberately created at the border and the ramifications of the open border to the U.S..

MSN

The amusing aspect is that todays aged libruls are children of the 1960s who rebelled against the establishment of the time. They are now the same thing they originally rebelled against.

 

[gbg3]

The amusing aspect is that todays aged libruls are children of the 1960s who rebelled against the establishment of the time. They are now the same thing they originally rebelled against.

Lol, and rest of us grew up and recognized the logic of conservatism during the growing up process.

 

[Captain Adverse]

I don't like you. I don't even like your avatar. Everything about you is wrong. Your pompous.

Remember when I asked for your personal opinion?

Me neither.

 

[Craig234]

Lol, and rest of us grew up and recognized the logic of conservatism during the growing up process.

There have been two other irony of the day candidates, but you win. The people who grow up are the ones who learn nor only the logic but the morality of progressive values. People who don't grow up are often people who can't get past Ayn Rand delusions and similar right-wing views. The only logic to right-wing is error logic.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Reread the article primarily based on commonsense and written by a moderate Democrat. You will find he included recent polling and a few stats.

He didn’t, he just said “mark my words” in variations.

Right wing fanfic you guys use to self-soothe.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

I thought this opinion piece might be discussion worthy. Here are some parts which stood out to me.

"But the current focus on "systemic racism," coupled with a newfound and heavily enforced cultural conformism and the obsessive focus on a never-ending litany of impending "climate emergences" are less likely to pass muster with most of the middle class, no matter how popular they are with the media, academics, and others in the progressive corner."

I don't think the majority of Americans view the U.S. as having a "systemic racism" problem and, like me, many just feel the narrative creates unnecessary division. Then, "cultural conformism". IMO, the Dems have lost their way with their insistence that all must conform to their views. It's obnoxious and very unrealistic. It's another situation causing unnecessary division, IMO. Finally, the climate crisis. I have long thought there is way too much drama around a highly vague and undefined issue. The supposed solutions are just extremely expensive guesses which, actually, may end up doing more harm than good, be ever so costly to the average American and make services we've grown to rely on and count on - spotty and inconsistent.

"And this new middle-class rebellion is being bolstered by a wide-ranging intellectual rebellion by traditional liberals against the Left's dogmatism and intolerance."

Oh, the leftist intolerance! I simply agree it would be hard for it to not generate rebellion.

"Biden is similarly losing the middle class on immigration."

The border and crime is where I think the Dems and Biden will suffer the most consequences. I disagree with the author who thinks climate policy will be the biggest Dem problem - because I think many of those bills will really struggle to pass. But, back to the border. There is simply no acceptable or feasible justification for what Biden has deliberately created at the border and the ramifications of the open border to the U.S..

MSN

When Biden and the left get done there will be no middle class. With the rise of prices the only people left will be the poor and the wealthy.

 

[MAGAnificent]

When Biden and the left get done there will be no middle class. With the rise of prices the only people left will be the poor and the wealthy.

Which is the left wings idea of utopia to begin with. No middle class.....just the ruling elite and the peasants

 

[Sand Castle]

When Biden and the left get done there will be no middle class. With the rise of prices the only people left will be the poor and the wealthy.

I hope you don't mind but you post is quite fitting here:

"There have been two other irony of the day candidates, but you win. The people who grow up are the ones who learn nor only the logic but the morality of progressive values. People who don't grow up are often people who can't get past Ayn Rand delusions and similar right-wing views. The only logic to right-wing is error logic"

Craig234

 

[Irwin Corey]

Which is the left wings idea of utopia to begin with. No middle class.....just the ruling elite and the peasants

Well! There you go again! You are in for the suprise of your life, IF, you get your way and Benedict Donald achives his tRumptopia ... that is exactly what he has in mind. That IS, HAS BEEN, and Will Be the GOAL of the GOP Sellouts (to the wealthy) since Ronald Reagan; and Donald Judas Trump is the personification of that goal!



American economics over the last 40+ years bears that out.

(BTW, this weeks tRumpNONsense belies your name; it's "the donald" that's senile!)

 

[coco]

I don’t like people who use “your” when they’re supposed to use “you’re”.

Get up on the wrong side of the bed today?

Get over it. your is easier to type. Sorry, i forgot a capital.

 

[Deuce]

Insistence doesn't necessarily equate to obedience. I and many others are not "forced to adopt" what the Dems insist upon. A perfect current event, full of examples, is COVID - masking and vaccinations. You could go to any thread here on DP about masking and about vaccinations. You'll find comment after comment from the left "insisting" that all get vaccinated. These same posters not only insist others do so but shame them if others say - no, I'll make my own choice.. And, these same posters are strongly in favor of vaccination mandates and various forms of punishment for those who don't comply (punishments including not being admitted to normal life events, like travel, school, employment, etc.).
Schools are huge in the leftist "insistence" realm. CRT, pronouns, and sex education are just a few examples.
Carville does an excellent job of discussing where the Dems have gone with their insistence.

James Carville: The woke are tired of being woke | CNN

Legendary Democratic strategist James Carville thinks Democrats' allegiance to all things "woke" will hurt the party at the ballot box and they should speak "the language of the people" instead.

www.cnn.com

So, by insistence you mean "liberals express their opinion."

Free speech works two ways, dude. Conservatives shame people all the goddamned time. How is it different?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

The author’s biography suggests that he isn’t a conservative, he is a registered Democrat for example, and Newsweek is a center publication so I’m not sure you dismiss his arguments out of hand.

Kotkin is a disgruntled former Democrat (switched to Independent in ‘16).

His first claim; “I don't think the majority of Americans view the U.S. as having a "systemic racism" problem …” can be affirmed or refuted depending on which poll one chooses to believe.

Personally, I have no use for disgruntled people’s opinions.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Which is the left wings idea of utopia to begin with. No middle class.....just the ruling elite and the peasants

We are well on our way to that right now. Have you seen the price of things since Biden took office. This is just the start.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

I hope you don't mind but you post is quite fitting here:

"There have been two other irony of the day candidates, but you win. The people who grow up are the ones who learn nor only the logic but the morality of progressive values. People who don't grow up are often people who can't get past Ayn Rand delusions and similar right-wing views. The only logic to right-wing is error logic"

Craig234

Just look at what they have done to our economy and the price of goods and services. They have been doing this since FDR took the peoples gold and then doubled the price in the greatest stealing of wealth from the people of this country. But his baker buddies made out OK . They got the gold and we got the promissory note that has lost value ever since.

 

[Hypothetical]

Actually, you are wrong.
Reread the article primarily based on commonsense and written by a moderate Democrat. You will find he included recent polling and a few stats.

Bottom line, even today's liberals aren't really fans of progressivism, the latter a group that is only 8% of Democrats. And because of this, the predicts there might be a backlash against Biden's more progressive policies, (such as immigration) in the upcoming 2022 midterms.

I think that is because they are starting to understand the new "progressive" is a call word for the old anarchists.

and only batshit insane or the deluded are true anarchists.