Will The Left Run Up The White Flag

[Kurmugeon]

Your neighborhood? Or a televised event?

I smelled the Blood on all three occassions.

I wouldn't tell you about it, if I were just talking about what I saw about the Rodney King Riots on CNN.

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[Manc Skipper]

"Run up a white flag"? Listen to yourselves! It's not a war.

 

[JMR]

I smelled the Blood on all three occassions.

I wouldn't tell you about it, if I were just talking about what I saw about the Rodney King Riots on CNN.

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I have no idea where you reside that you have experienced three different occasions where "lefties" beat people to death. I find it very difficult to believe.

 

[gemini104104]

Of course tRump's brainwashed cult followers will not go quietly, considering all of the uncivilized and primitive noise they are making at being conned, punked and shafted by tRump. Yet it appears Justice at walking softly and carrying big stick that tRump and his cronies are probably not aware of, will ensure this tRump regime of treason, obstruction of justice, moral atrocities and other uncivilized and lawless schemes will be subjected the most severest and horrifying forms of accountability that they in their pompous and taxpayer squandering can imagine.

 

[Kurmugeon]

I have no idea where you reside that you have experienced three different occasions where "lefties" beat people to death. I find it very difficult to believe.

Most Lefties are in denial about the nature of many in their political faction. I see it all the time. Antifa IS a Fascist Organization!

Additionally, it isn't so much a matter of Where, but a Matter of When.

I am OLD. Two of the three occassions were long ago, in the 1960s, and early 1970s. You've little concept of what those times were like. LSD was thought to be a GOOD, mind expanding, experience by a majority of people under the age of 30. They didn't yet know of the downsides.

In that era, many other wacko things were going on... the Government was using Nukes for anything and everything they could think of, Digging artificial lakes, powering surface to orbital rockets, fracing rock to free up the movement of natural gas to gas-wells... again, they didn't yet know the downsides.

Free Love, or casual sex with anyone at anytime, just for the pleasure of it, like you might drink a soda, was considered normal and healthy, ... because they were foolish enough to think that any STD could be completely cured by a few dollars worth of antibiotic pills... AIDS/HIV wasn't yet understood, though it WAS spreading!

The Government started ridiculously grandious spending programs to help other nations and domestically "The Poor", with little thought to the fact that helping other nations, would create competing manufacturing, science, mining and farming in foreign nations, that would vastly reduce the GDP of America, taking away the ability to keep funding those extremely expensive programs. We foolishly thought we'd be the top of the world's Industry and Wealth Forever onward.

Industry and our people, didn't understand, or chose to ignore, the effects of overuse or casual discarding of toxins, pesiticides, and just plan roadside TRASH!

Nor did we understand, yet, that making it EASY and comfortable to be "The Poor", meant American Poor would multiply much faster than all of the Productive/Educated/Ambitous people. It also made America a magnet, drawing in "The Poor" who didn't want to bother to become productive, from every corner of the globe.

Harshaw had it right, when he posted on this thread, about how we are headed back to ugly, violent, and chaotic days of the 1960s. Things were BAD! Most people alive today didn't live though those years, to understand how bad it was.

But I find it surpizing that you cannot imagine that a person who has experienced 6 decades of life might have witnessed three violent Leftie events while living in a Major Metro area... Didn't you hear about the BLM inspired assassinations of the Dallas Police, or the dozen other BLM execution style murders of police officers which have occured recently?... or are you in denial that those murders where Leftist in origin?

I think most Lefties need to spend some real time in Introspection!

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[JMR]

Most Lefties are in denial about the nature of many in their political faction. I see it all the time. Antifa IS a Fascist Organization!

Additionally, it isn't so much a matter of Where, but a Matter of When.

I am OLD. Two of the three occassions were long ago, in the 1960s, and early 1970s. You've little concept of what those times were like. LSD was thought to be a GOOD, mind expanding, experience by a majority of people under the age of 30. They didn't yet know of the downsides.

In that era, many other wacko things were going on... the Government was using Nukes for anything and everything they could think of, Digging artificial lakes, powering surface to orbital rockets, fracing rock to free up the movement of natural gas to gas-wells... again, they didn't yet know the downsides.

Free Love, or casual sex with anyone at anytime, just for the pleasure of it, like you might drink a soda, was considered normal and healthy, ... because they were foolish enough to think that any STD could be completely cured by a few dollars worth of antibiotic pills... AIDS/HIV wasn't yet understood, though it WAS spreading!

The Government started ridiculously grandious spending programs to help other nations and domestically "The Poor", with little thought to the fact that helping other nations, would create competing manufacturing, science, mining and farming in foreign nations, that would vastly reduce the GDP of America, taking away the ability to keep funding those extremely expensive programs. We foolishly thought we'd be the top of the world's Industry and Wealth Forever onward.

Industry and our people, didn't understand, or chose to ignore, the effects of overuse or casual discarding of toxins, pesiticides, and just plan roadside TRASH!

Nor did we understand, yet, that making it EASY and comfortable to be "The Poor", meant American Poor would multiply much faster than all of the Productive/Educated/Ambitous people. It also made America a magnet, drawing in "The Poor" who didn't want to bother to become productive, from every corner of the globe.

Harshaw had it right, when he posted on this thread, about how we are headed back to ugly, violent, and chaotic days of the 1960s. Things were BAD! Most people alive today didn't live though those years, to understand how bad it was.

But I find it surpizing that you cannot imagine that a person who has experienced 6 decades of life might have witnessed three violent Leftie events while living in a Major Metro area... Didn't you hear about the BLM inspired assassinations of the Dallas Police, or the dozen other BLM execution style murders of police officers which have occured recently?... or are you in denial that those murders where Leftist in origin?

I think most Lefties need to spend some real time in Introspection!

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I agree the 60's were a tumultuous time. I was actually there. :2wave: LSD was NOT embraced by the majority of the people. Casual Sex was not at all as rampant as you try to pretend. There was a great deal of questioning of authority, and resistance to the draft. I find it amazing you do not see how the policies of the right greatly contributed to the unrest. Also amazing that you attribute the same motives and desires to "lefties" of the current times. More amazing that you attribute the goals of radicals to the goals of the rank and file of democrats, and somehow excuse the behavior of radical righties. I'm zero physical threat to you, I am not part of a "mob", I'm not an enemy of America.

Much of what used to be the center right has become possessed by a crazed fringe movement, nodding in sync with a crazy POTUS, and are willing to repeat any insane inanity that he speaks.

I think the far right and the far left are seriously off course. The actions of the 60's are no more relevant than the actions of the 40's. There is no high ground on the right, as any examination of current events would easily reveal.

 

[TurtleDude]

If that happens, I won't be angry at Democratic politicians, I'll be livid and disgusted with Democratic voters.

OTOH: how will they right-wing react to there being no red wave? Not good.

democrats are far more dependent on the government than republicans. so the dems will be more upset than the GOP over bad results in November

 

[TurtleDude]

Of course tRump's brainwashed cult followers will not go quietly, considering all of the uncivilized and primitive noise they are making at being conned, punked and shafted by tRump. Yet it appears Justice at walking softly and carrying big stick that tRump and his cronies are probably not aware of, will ensure this tRump regime of treason, obstruction of justice, moral atrocities and other uncivilized and lawless schemes will be subjected the most severest and horrifying forms of accountability that they in their pompous and taxpayer squandering can imagine.

LOL-hyperbolic hysterical hyperventilation and hits hilarious hottest.

 

[gemini104104]

Nonsense as it appears ignorance is bliss here among tRump's poor and pathetic cult followers, and who also appear to be lending their pathetic souls to hell for an eternity of some of that hell fire.

 

[TurtleDude]

Nonsense as it appears ignorance is bliss here among tRump's poor and pathetic cult followers, and who also appear to be lending their pathetic souls to hell for an eternity of some of that hell fire.

LOL-this looks like POE material

 

[Harshaw]

Really? You have had a neighborhood uprising of mob like democrats?

People should recognize campaign blather for what it is, and talking points for what they are.

If you can't be bothered to notice what actually happened in the world, that is on you.

(That you have to concoct such strawmen as "neighborhood uprising of democrats" is telling as well.)

 

[Harshaw]

democrats are far more dependent on the government than republicans. so the dems will be more upset than the GOP over bad results in November

It's generally Democrats who see elections as life-and-death, far moreso than Republicans.

This, for example, is about the 20th "most important election of our lifetime" in my lifetime.

It's really not that important.

 

[Moderate Right]

Stop lying, the left have been getting their asses kicked by the Antifa because we're "not left enough" for them.

It's not a lie: The Democratic silence on antifa is dangerous - Chicago Tribune

However, you are correct that the left's blatant silence regarding the antifa has come home to roost.

 

[Moderate Right]

Yes of course, we all remember who was responsible for the death in Charlottesville...

And Antifa, unlike white supremacists, did NOT bring any semi automatic weapons there.

In any case, I am not saying I am pro-antifa violence in any shape or form. I am calling you out on your nonsense regarding white supremacists being innocent victims or even in any way "better" than antifa.

LOL. Very clever ways of spin control. It's extremely telling when you don't deny police had to protect the white supremacists, not the "counter protesters" and you also don't deny the left brought weapons with them.

 

[Moderate Right]

No, I'm saying that candidate's aren't entitled to the vote of their base, and that it's up to them to sell themselves to the people and earn their trust.

As I said, the left's base votes for the left. The right's base votes for the right. You don't win or lose elections because of the base, like many stupidly believe. You win or lose elections based on Independents and those in the middle. They are the ones who decide elections. In 2016 Trump didn't win because Hillary's base didn't come out to vote. Trump won because he got the votes of moderate Democrats in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Trump's base had nothing to do with him winning and Hillary's base had nothing to do with her losing.

 

[vesper]

What I find amazing are the size of these rallies Trump is having in key states for Republican candidates. In each case you hear the lines are two miles long and people lined up for hours. If someone is going to stand in line for that long, that same someone is very motivated to vote this mid-term.

I have also noticed some articles where Democrats are walking back all the talk about a blue wave and as of late some conceding they may not win back the House.

 

[Eriech]

What I find amazing are the size of these rallies Trump is having in key states for Republican candidates. In each case you hear the lines are two miles long and people lined up for hours. If someone is going to stand in line for that long, that same someone is very motivated to vote this mid-term.

I have also noticed some articles where Democrats are walking back all the talk about a blue wave and as of late some conceding they may not win back the House.

Doesn't look good for Democrats. No way they can deliver on expectations.

They are going to lose ground in the Senate and either win by a handful or lose by a handful in the house. If they win Pelosi and Maxine are going to over reach and Democrats will get crushed in 2020. If they lose Trump is going to keep on keeping on MAGA and the Democrats will get crushed in 2020.

As far as the makeup of the Congress, moderates of both parties are getting picked off, potentially. Moderate blue state Republicans out.....moderate red state Democrats out.

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[Slavister]

LOL. Very clever ways of spin control. It's extremely telling when you don't deny police had to protect the white supremacists, not the "counter protesters" and you also don't deny the left brought weapons with them.

You are trying to draw some sort of equivalence between the two sides. They are NOT.

First, the weapons that were brought by Nazis were much more powerful / not comparable to "weapons" brought by antifa. You are talking semi automatic weapons vs knifes ? Seriously ?

Second, by your logic, Nazis and Allies were comparable in World War 2, since they were both using weapons and were both violent. By your logic, you see no difference between the two sides in World War 2. Good one. Keep digging that hole.

 

[eohrnberger]

What I find amazing are the size of these rallies Trump is having in key states for Republican candidates. In each case you hear the lines are two miles long and people lined up for hours. If someone is going to stand in line for that long, that same someone is very motivated to vote this mid-term.

I have also noticed some articles where Democrats are walking back all the talk about a blue wave and as of late some conceding they may not win back the House.

Hi Vesper. Tis true, the Dems are walking back the talk of the 'blue wave' that was supposed to be coming.
The self inflicted Kavanaugh debacle, the abandonment of presumed innocence, the silence on AntiFa fascist tactics, Warren's DNA test results, multiple leading Dems calling for confrontation, intimidation, incivility, mob politics, conservative speech accused of being violence and liberal violence claimed to be free speech, the extremist hyperbole offered up by the DNC propaganda 'news' media, it's all came home to roost.

'Reap what you sow' would seem to be applicable.

But only the election will tell.

 

[vesper]

Hi Vesper. Tis true, the Dems are walking back the talk of the 'blue wave' that was supposed to be coming.
The self inflicted Kavanaugh debacle, the abandonment of presumed innocence, the silence on AntiFa fascist tactics, Warren's DNA test results, multiple leading Dems calling for confrontation, intimidation, incivility, mob politics, conservative speech accused of being violence and liberal violence claimed to be free speech, the extremist hyperbole offered up by the DNC propaganda 'news' media, it's all came home to roost.

'Reap what you sow' would seem to be applicable.

But only the election will tell.

I also think this illegal immigration problem has lit a fire under many across party lines. Ever since they were ordered by a judge to return to capture and release, they are pouring across the border in mass. What is playing out in Mexico right now where they are not permitting the people to enter has turned violent. The pictures of this mass of people are powerful.

People are tired of our feckless laws and want them changed but without more Republicans, it isn't going to happen. I watched an interview with some border partrol persons and they say the Cartel uses these people to come over in mass to tie up border patrol in one area while they make it across the border with drugs in another part of the border that doesn't have the manpower to secure it. A lot of their personnel is also busy carrying for children, running shelters for these people, feeding them, etc. It is insane.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

It's not a lie: The Democratic silence on antifa is dangerous - Chicago Tribune

However, you are correct that the left's blatant silence regarding the antifa has come home to roost.

Pointing out that a group of people aren't quite aware of the wolf in sheep's clothing is a lot different than accusing that same group of actually being members of the wolf pack.
Do you like it much when people accuse conservatives of all being in cahoots with the Nazis?
The Democratic silence on Antifa (I read that article when it first came out, thank you very much) is coming to an end, precisely because Democrats are seeing Antifa assuming full flower. We see the Communist flags and the mutterings of "liberals get the bullet too", and we see journalists being attacked.

I'll thank you to quit terming it as "blatant" unless you want me to start affixing swastikas to everything you say from now on.

 

[veritas1]

I expect the left to become more violent and unhinged after they fail on Nov. 6th. After 2020, they'll be absolutely out of control.

 

[Kurmugeon]

I expect the left to become more violent and unhinged after they fail on Nov. 6th. After 2020, they'll be absolutely out of control.

The Far-Left will go violent and out of control.

The Center-Left, and Moderate-Right-Center, will complete the process started in the #walkaway, and create a new political party.

And then the Democratic Party will die.

As it needed to die from the moment they turned their backs on Working Class People, and adopted the Anti-White/Anti-Male, Identity Politics.



Its all very predictable... isn't it?

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[eohrnberger]

I also think this illegal immigration problem has lit a fire under many across party lines. Ever since they were ordered by a judge to return to capture and release, they are pouring across the border in mass. What is playing out in Mexico right now where they are not permitting the people to enter has turned violent. The pictures of this mass of people are powerful.

People are tired of our feckless laws and want them changed but without more Republicans, it isn't going to happen. I watched an interview with some border partrol persons and they say the Cartel uses these people to come over in mass to tie up border patrol in one area while they make it across the border with drugs in another part of the border that doesn't have the manpower to secure it. A lot of their personnel is also busy carrying for children, running shelters for these people, feeding them, etc. It is insane.

Yes. It is insane. It is also insane that there are some of the electorate and in congress which don't want to secure the border.

Walls have both historically, and in present day, shown themselves to be effective in border control. No reason that we shouldn't build one on the Southern border, where illegal border crossing and illegal immigrants is a significant problem.

 

[Eriech]

I expect the left to become more violent and unhinged after they fail on Nov. 6th. After 2020, they'll be absolutely out of control.

The walking dead series is a allegory of what will happen after 2020. Unhinged Zombie apocalypse........

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