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WikiLeaks' Julian Assange arrested; U.S. seeks extradition from U.K.

Journalists who expose the truth MUST be punished.

It's in the Constitution and everything.
1. He's not a US citizen, the Constitution isn't relevant.
2. He's not a journalist, he's a lowdown, glorified doxxer, who committed a crime against our country.

Deal with it.
 
He's a heroic journalist hunted like an animal.

The Bernie Bro comment reveals the agenda at work here, of course: Hillary and the DNC exposed as the dirty dealers they are, and rather than accepting the truth, the messenger attacked.

A sad day for humanity when the criminals win & the hero is punished.
Assange sat on the Panama Papers, which revealed corruption across the world, and in particular in Russia and China, but chose not to publish them. Why? He's Putin's ass monkey. He doesn't really care about exposing rogue governments, just the Western ones that gave him the liberty he took advantage of as a guest.

That speaks volumes about how seriously he takes fighting tyranny.

He ain't no hero. The man is a glorified internet troll and doxxer, who believes he's above all law and rules.

His arrogance blinded him into believing he could get away with this forever, by cuddling up to the biggest attacker of freedom of the press in history, and now he's learned the hard way that person is not loyal to anyone.
 
1. He's not a US citizen, the Constitution isn't relevant.
2. He's not a journalist, he's a lowdown, glorified doxxer, who committed a crime against our country.

Deal with it.

1. It's relevant to us, or should be, and freedom of speech and the press - especially in exposing the corruption and crimes of the powerful - is a nearly international value. In case you hadn't heard. :)

2. He absolutely is a journalist, and a heroic one. But I get it: he exposed Queen Hillary and her dirty party. He MUST pay!
 
1. It's relevant to us, or should be, and freedom of speech and the press - especially in exposing the corruption and crimes of the powerful - is a nearly international value. In case you hadn't heard. :)
Then why doesn't he publish anything bad about Putin, the Ukraine, or China? Why did he sit on the Panama Papers? Riddle me that, freedom warrior.

2. He absolutely is a journalist, and a heroic one. But I get it: he exposed Queen Hillary and her dirty party. He MUST pay!
Get this through your head: It's a crime for anyone to conspire to breach a secure server, much less one owned by the government. Journalists are permitted to publish material from whistle blowers, who may have broken the law in obtaining the material, but journalists are themselves not allowed to assist them in breaking the law, no matter what the story is.

What journalists are allowed to break the law for a story, they quickly can become above entirely, and it is THAT the Assange fanboys get wrong.
 
Assange sat on the Panama Papers, which revealed corruption across the world, and in particular in Russia and China, but chose not to publish them. Why? He's Putin's ass monkey. He doesn't really care about exposing rogue governments, just the Western ones that gave him the liberty he took advantage of as a guest.

That speaks volumes about how seriously he takes fighting tyranny.

He ain't no hero. The man is a glorified internet troll and doxxer, who believes he's above all law and rules.

His arrogance blinded him into believing he could get away with this forever, by cuddling up to the biggest attacker of freedom of the press in history, and now he's learned the hard way that person is not loyal to anyone.

I get it.

It was her time; OrangeManBad.

Putin's ass monkey?

Joe McCarthy called.

He wants his homophobic red scare rhetoric back. :)

And this rhetoric of yours speaks volumes about your total lack of objectivity and wildly partisan agenda.

Assange is a hero to those who understand what heroism is.

But it is possible, even likely, that Trump had a hand in this.

Your cuddling comment is just more smearing of an heroic journalist hunted like an animal.

But wrong isn't wrong when it's done for the >right< reasons, eh?
 
Then why doesn't he publish anything bad about Putin, the Ukraine, or China? Why did he sit on the Panama Papers? Riddle me that, freedom warrior.


Get this through your head: It's a crime for anyone to conspire to breach a secure server, much less one owned by the government. Journalists are permitted to publish material from whistle blowers, who may have broken the law in obtaining the material, but journalists are themselves not allowed to assist them in breaking the law, no matter what the story is.

What journalists are allowed to break the law for a story, they quickly can become above entirely, and it is THAT the Assange fanboys get wrong.

There is a MASSIVE amount of material WL hasn't published. And isn't there enough broad knowledge about how sleazy and criminal those governments are? Why pile on to the massive propaganda already prevalent in US & world media?

But I really do get it - he exposed how dirty the Democrats are.

He. Must. PAY!

Get this through your head: Freedom of the press. Daniel Ellsberg.

You clearly have NO understanding - nor do you seem likely to seek it out - of how journalists work.

Matt wrote a great piece for RS if anyone else has an interest in this, however. :)

Pentagon Papers, my friend.

If you're ever ready to seek the truth.

:)
 
There is a MASSIVE amount of material WL hasn't published. And isn't there enough broad knowledge about how sleazy and criminal those governments are? Why pile on to the massive propaganda already prevalent in US & world media?

But I really do get it - he exposed how dirty the Democrats are.

He. Must. PAY!

Get this through your head: Freedom of the press. Daniel Ellsberg.

You clearly have NO understanding - nor do you seem likely to seek it out - of how journalists work.

Matt wrote a great piece for RS if anyone else has an interest in this, however. :)

Pentagon Papers, my friend.

If you're ever ready to seek the truth.

:)
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Freedom of the press does not give any press member right to assist anyone in breaking the law, no matter the cause. How do you not understand this?

Whistle blowers might break the law if they so chose, but that is for them alone to do, and they are the ones that should face a jury of their peers that might determine if they should get jury nullification, as a way of clemency for their crimes.

As soon as members of the press are allowed to break the law for a story, they will escalate that precedent to break other laws that might effect private citizens.

Done.
 
:lol:

Freedom of the press does not give any press member right to assist anyone in breaking the law, no matter the cause. How do you not understand this?

Whistle blowers might break the law if they so chose, but that is for them alone to do, and they are the ones that should face a jury of their peers that might determine if they should get jury nullification, as a way of clemency for their crimes.

As soon as members of the press are allowed to break the law for a story, they will escalate that precedent to break other laws that might effect private citizens.

Done.

So why isn't Assange being charged for his role in Russia's hacking of the DNC?
 
My question is what changed Ecuador's opinion.

He wouldn't bathe and smeared **** on the walls. If that's the kind of house guest he is … well … that would do it for me.
 
Obviously, a change in leadership. The former president was sympathetic to the plight of a whistleblower and innocent man.

The new guy Moreno is not, and is very much in the pocket of the Washington government. Some say $ was also involved, as apparently the US has offered Moreno some $ in the form of loans.

A modern version of Judas Iscariot is what I see.

Wikileaks had released documents that embarrassed Moreno, as they revealed tax offshoring and money laundering schemes.

It's a combination of that, and Moreno wanting to normalize relationships with Spain and the US. He had recently met with Pence and the Spanish government.
 
Animal. :roll:

Humans behave similarly to dogs and other critters when they are confined inside a cage. Even you, if you were to be confined like that.
 
Whistle blowers might break the law if they so chose, but that is for them alone to do, and they are the ones that should face a jury of their peers that might determine if they should get jury nullification, as a way of clemency for their crimes.

When Ellsberg was tried, he was unable to testify at all as to whether the material ought to have been classified, so no, a jury of his peers would never have been able to hear his argument. They would have heard the case against him, and that's it. Whistleblower trials in the US are kangaroo courts, and if Ellsberg's case hadn't been dropped after Nixon got caught illegally wiretapping him he likely would be in jail.

The current state of whistleblowing prosecutions under the Espionage Act makes a truly fair trial wholly unavailable to an American who has exposed classified wrongdoing. Legal scholars have strongly argued that the US supreme court – which has never yet addressed the constitutionality of applying the Espionage Act to leaks to the American public – should find the use of it overbroad and unconstitutional in the absence of a public interest defense. The Espionage Act, as applied to whistleblowers, violates the First Amendment, is what they're saying.

As I know from my own case, even Snowden's own testimony on the stand would be gagged by government objections and the (arguably unconstitutional) nature of his charges. That was my own experience in court, as the first American to be prosecuted under the Espionage Act – or any other statute – for giving information to the American people.

I had looked forward to offering a fuller account in my trial than I had given previously to any journalist – any Glenn Greenwald or Brian Williams of my time – as to the considerations that led me to copy and distribute thousands of pages of top-secret documents. I had saved many details until I could present them on the stand, under oath, just as a young John Kerry had delivered his strongest lines in sworn testimony.

But when I finally heard my lawyer ask the prearranged question in direct examination – Why did you copy the Pentagon Papers? – I was silenced before I could begin to answer. The government prosecutor objected – irrelevant – and the judge sustained. My lawyer, exasperated, said he "had never heard of a case where a defendant was not permitted to tell the jury why he did what he did." The judge responded: well, you're hearing one now.
Source: Daniel Ellsberg: Snowden would not get a fair trial – and Kerry is wrong | Opinion | The Guardian
 
He wouldn't bathe and smeared **** on the walls. If that's the kind of house guest he is … well … that would do it for me.

Speaking of smearing, did you know that mainstream media has smeared many innocent people? Telling lies to the public is usually a successful effort because the public believes pretty much everything it is told, whether true and accurate or completely false.
 
Speaking of smearing, did you know that mainstream media has smeared many innocent people? Telling lies to the public is usually a successful effort because the public believes pretty much everything it is told, whether true and accurate or completely false.

The Ellsberg trial happened like 20 years before I was born. Most of the people who have such strong opinions contrary to the facts revolving around those events lived through them. It's mind-boggling to me.
 
The Ellsberg trial happened like 20 years before I was born. Most of the people who have such strong opinions contrary to the facts revolving around those events lived through them. It's mind-boggling to me.

In general terms, from Ellsberg to Manning and Snowden, Kiriakou, Drake, Binney and so many others, whistleblowers prove one thing, one central theme: the US government routinely and constantly deceives the public.

And yet so many people continue to believe it. What a mess.
 
My question is what changed Ecuador's opinion.

Try cashing him in for getting a debt relief loan to the tune of $4.2 billion from the IMF in which the US has a veto power for one

Try Moreno's wanting to cosy back up to the US and in particular the Trump administration after the former president Correa's wish for a more independent Ecuador. Expect to see it align itself with the other Latin American states that are and have shed off the social democratic policies that briefly enjoyed support there over the past 20 years

There is also the fact that Moreno is now being investigated on corruption charges in a case referred to as INS Papers where his brother is said to have opened two accounts in Belize and Panama where bribes and stuff have been getting paid in and where Moreno himself has been spending money around the world. The leak was apparently not down to Wikileaks but was given to the UN by another source but Wikileaks tweeted a comment about it and Moreno saw that as a personal attack even though Assange hasn't been in charge of Wikileaks for over a year now.

You can find out by watching this short clip where the former FM of Ecuador is talking to the Real News

Ecuadorian President's Motives for Surrendering Assange: Vengeance & IMF Loan?

As for the alleged reasons given by Moreno regarding the abuse of Ecuadorian staff and his obnoxious character We won't know just how true or not they are but you have to factor in ,imo , the man has been denied his freedom and holed up for 7 years in a room with no internet ( which apparently is massive to him , unsurprisingly ) for over 12 months and that would take a lot out of anyone imho
 
My question is what changed Ecuador's opinion.

It would not surprise me to see WikiLeaks holding information on Ecuador’s government, or at least something they are involved in.
 
Is this true? How do we know?

He's been a target of the corporate MSM for exposing the secrets of the rich & powerful - Democrat and Republican alike - who pretty much own and/or party with those in media, so they've mercilessly and falsely attacked him.

But at any rate, the man's a hero hunted and cornered like an animal, so it's possible that this had a bad effect, as it would on most anyone.

His arrest is a cataclysmic blow against freedoms enshrined in our Constitution and around the world, so I find attacks on him shocking and tragic.

Stop making sense the natives are getting worried and of course you should believe the corporate media the never side with state propaganda lol
 
Assange is hated twofold because he not only exposed massive corruption and wrongdoing by & on behalf of the necrophiliac plutocracy, but also blew up the comforting myth among the Democrats that their party was any less a criminal syndicate than the Republican Party.

His timing also enraged the Hillbots, who should have already known that Hillary was the Queen of Corruption, Rape, War & Wall street - it's public knowledge, and she's on tape reveling in brutal sexual assault among other acts in a life marked by sociopathic indecency - but that timing...

And the ginned up rape charges (consensual sex!) against Assange dovetailed nicely with the irrational rage of the Hillbots, ready to believe anything except the truth about their vampiric candidate & her corrupt party.

Classic case of wishing death upon the bringer of bad tidings, but the Democrats have had 3 years since everyone (who didn't already know) found out that theirs was the OTHER crime family of US politics, and what have they done?

Absolutely nothing to clean up their own house.

They rage at Trump, they rage at Assange, but they do nothing to attend to their own bloody crime scene.

And all their evils are projected onto the pig Trump as well as the heroic Assange - the latter a classic scapegoat.

Twas ever thus; we humans are truly deplorable one and all.
 
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Juicy read at the Daily Mail about his slovenliness and worse (smearing his excrement on his bathroom wall and stuffing dirty underwear in the toilet).

Wait until they release the one about how he tortured that tiny kitten to death :roll:
 
Leaks regarding the Ecuadorian president hiding money in Panama.

Apparently not by Wikileaks though , they only tweeted about the case that was already underway
 
By all accounts Assange treated the Ecuadorians like crap—for example, refusing to clear up after himself and his cat—and it caught up to him.

Not by" all accounts"......... by Moreno's account and dutifully peddled on by the corporate media


Ain't it funny , you are a hater of all those Latin American politicians that skim off money for themselves at the expense of their populations ONLY when they are of a Left of centre bent and are wholly willing to believe what any right wing corrupt leader says without the slightest evidence to support it. The same happened when I informed you that Noriega's drug running career largely happened when he a
was on the CIA payroll

Ive already told you that you are a shill for the state department and their corrupt lackies so it's pointless saying it again even if you have been caught doing so again
 
Assange is hated twofold because he not only exposed massive corruption and wrongdoing by & on behalf of the necrophiliac plutocracy, but also blew up the comforting myth among the Democrats that their party was any less a criminal syndicate than the Republican Party.

His timing also enraged the Hillbots, who should have already known that Hillary was the Queen of Corruption, Rape, War & Wall street - it's public knowledge, and she's on tape reveling in brutal sexual assault among other acts in a life marked by sociopathic indecency - but that timing...

And the ginned up rape charges (consensual sex!) against Assange dovetailed nicely with the irrational rage of the Hillbots, ready to believe anything except the truth about their vampiric candidate & her corrupt party.

Classic case of wishing death upon the bringer of bad tidings, but the Democrats have had 3 years since everyone (who didn't already know) found out that theirs was the OTHER crime family of US politics, and what have they done?

Absolutely nothing to clean up their own house.

They rage at Trump, they rage at Assange, but they do nothing to attend to their own bloody crime scene.

And all their evils are projected onto the pig Trump as well as the heroic Assange - the latter a classic scapegoat.

Twas ever thus; we humans are truly deplorable one and all.

Love that sig and asking permission to add it to my own
 
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