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Why Trump Thinks Putin is "Genius"


Isn't it true that just more than a week ago Putin claimed that they wouldn't imvade? And isn't it a lie for Putin to have claimed to cross the eastern border as a peacemaker, especially considering the conflict was never planned as a peaceful event?

What should we think of a former president who characterizes lies and deception as genius?

Trump values deception more than sincerity?

Why should anyone trust trump?

Emmanuel Macron says Vladimir Putin promises not to ‘escalate’ Ukraine crisis

French president says he has received a commitment to restart Normandy-format talks
www.ft.com

"Putin has denied he is planning to invade and has blamed the US and Nato, which he accuses of ignoring Moscow’s security needs, for escalating the crisis. "
 
What should we think of a President who believed the lies...or didn't believe the lies and didn't do anything to stop the invasion?
 
That article is from Feb. 8
 
Mycroft said:
And election fraud is worse.

But you don't care, do you?
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Absolutely everyone cares about election fraud. You on the other hand want to believe there was voter fraud.
 
Mycroft said:
What should we think of a President who believed the lies...or didn't believe the lies and didn't do anything to stop the invasion?
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What lies did Biden believe? And if he enacted sanctions and military support before the invasion, what would be left after it had started? How would he have been able to convince other nations to act, for instance in SWIFT transactions and other measures if nothing had happened yet, a week ago?
 
US&THEM said:
Absolutely everyone cares about election fraud. You on the other hand want to believe there was voter fraud.
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I didn't say a word about voter fraud.
 
If Biden had taken effective steps BEFORE the invasion...there wouldn't BE an invasion.

If Biden's pukes can't convince other nations to deal with a problem BEFORE it becomes a problem...they are ineffective.
 
Mycroft said:
And election fraud is worse.

But you don't care, do you?
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Huh? Election fraud? What election fraud?

It would be a better use of your time spending another 6 years looking for Obama's secret birth certificate or something. I hear you're not gonna believe what Trump's top people are finding on it!

And then after that, you should sign up for Trump U. Sure it's expensive- but hey, I hear it's better than Harvard, believe me!
 
Mycroft said:
If Biden had taken effective steps BEFORE the invasion...there wouldn't BE an invasion.

If Biden's pukes can't convince other nations to deal with a problem BEFORE it becomes a problem...they are ineffective.
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Well, that would have been ideal , yes , if something was potentially able to stop putin, but would you be able to specify exactly what he should have done?

I imagine that if he played all the cards in the period before the invasion began, it would not have prevented the act, and worse, there would be no options left after the invasion was underway. Also I see the options as less likely to be agreed upon among our allies if nothing had yet happened. Still, I'm asking what he should have done specifically that would have dissuaded Putin from attempting this war. Please address that.

You also have have not answered why anyone should trust trump when he so admires false statements and deception in others. Why should a person trust trump?
 
KingLeo said:
Because Putin is smart enough to realize to control Trump all you have to do is stroke his ego no matter how stupid and moronic you really know he is.
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Mycroft said:
If Biden had taken effective steps BEFORE the invasion...there wouldn't BE an invasion.

If Biden's pukes can't convince other nations to deal with a problem BEFORE it becomes a problem...they are ineffective.
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Also, Biden and the NATO allies realized that the sanctions that are in place now come at a high cost to our countries collectively. Do you remember the negotiations and diplomatic attempts that the Kremlin flatly rejected?
 
soap box said:
Also, Biden and the NATO allies realized that the sanctions that are in place now come at a high cost to our countries collectively. Do you remember the negotiations and diplomatic attempts that the Kremlin flatly rejected?
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"negotiations and diplomatic attempts" are useless unless there's a cost for rejecting them. That's what Trump taught a lot of countries...and that's what the Biden pukes don't know how to do.
 

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Trump talks about Putin, mocking Merkel and more at Mar-a-Lago

It was Presidents’ Day and Donald Trump looked especially relaxed. Wearing a white golf shirt emblazoned with the presidential seal, he was talkative without being combative.
nypost.com

That should answer both your questions.

soap box said:
You also have have not answered why anyone should trust trump when he so admires false statements and deception in others. Why should a person trust trump?
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Putin didn't invade under Trump's watch.

btw, in case you are someone who likes polls...

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62 percent of voters say Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine if Trump were president: poll

A majority of American voters say that Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had former President Trump still been in office, according to a new survey released …
thehill.com
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Looks like a LOT of Americans trust Trump.​
 
Mycroft said:
"negotiations and diplomatic attempts" are useless unless there's a cost for rejecting them. That's what Trump taught a lot of countries...and that's what the Biden pukes don't know how to do.
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Russia is paying a high cost.
 
NolanVoyd said:
Russia is paying a high cost.
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No. The US is paying a high cost.


Biden ripped for buying Russian oil: 'We are being conned,' billionaire oil and supermarket CEO says

John Catsimatidis, the billionaire owner and CEO of New York City supermarket chain Gristedes, who is also in the oil industry, reacted to U.S. President Biden buying oil from Russian President Vladimir Putin.
www.foxbusiness.com
 

If you scoff at the NYT and WAPO then I can scoff at the NY Post . You would also have to cite or confirm that " other stories making the rounds" because neither is plausible concerning threats to blow up Moscow. That's an incredibly irresponsible thing for a president to assert, and an unsupported assertion for a discussion.

That is to say neither point answered my questions.

Why would I care about the results of a poll of people when I can't discern whether or not they are sufficiently informed to draw such a conclusion?

I must repeat the question, Please explain why a person should trust trump considering that he so greatly admires deception and lying.

Do you admire deception and lying too?
 
NolanVoyd said:
Russia is paying a much higher cost than we are.

He won't last long.
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Okay. You have an opinion. Too bad you don't support your opinion.

So it goes.
 
shrug...

I presented a quote. You are free to agree with what Trump said to Putin...or not.

Your choice.

soap box said:
Why would I care about the results of a poll of people when I can't discern whether or not they are sufficiently informed to draw such a conclusion?
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I don't care if you don't care about the results of a poll. I just presented it in case people like polls.

I generally disregard all polls, myself.

soap box said:
I must repeat the question, Please explain why a person should trust trump considering that he so greatly admires deception and lying.

Do you admire deception and lying too?
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I don't perceive any "deception and lying" from Trump. As that quote shows...he says what he means. That...I admire.

It's too bad Biden doesn't.
 

But in this thread you said it was a "successful manipulation and end run" . As I noted in post # 26, he lied about being peacekeepers and lied before that about whether or not he intended to start a war. Those were lies and trump called it "genius". Isn't 'manipulation' a euphemism for lying in this case? It's not what a person would claim was an example of honesty. Manipulation cannot be considered truth in international relations.

I didn't claim that trump himself told lies in this case and I'm aware that last night he stated it was wrong to start the war. I asked if he can be trusted when he continues to call a liar a "genius".

As I asked before, you didn't post a quote about threatening to bomb the golden minarets, how does that qualify as a quote by calling it "other stories making the rounds" as in post # 42

You also never specified which lies Biden believed, your post # 28.

In Post # 40 you claimed that "trump taught a lot of countries" . Which countries does that refer to?

That's why I repeat the question , why should anyone trust trump when he so much admires Putin who has obviously lied to the world about an important event?
 
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