Why The Gun Control Debate is Over

[tshade]

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Yes.

The Gun Cult care more about their religious totems than children. If anything, they celebrate those slaughtered as martyrs to their idol. The gun.

 

[RF667799]

Children have been killed since time immemorial. Everyone managed to bear it.

Overwrought emotionalism is no way to run anything but a huge bar tab.

 

[RF667799]

Yes.

The Gun Cult care more about their religious totems than children. If anything, they celebrate those slaughtered as martyrs to their idol. The gun.

Those who lap up the output of the Gun Control Industry and support them through their offerings are more of a cult than are gun owners.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Children have been killed since time immemorial. Everyone managed to bear it.

Quod erat demonstrandum

 

[RF667799]

Quod erat demonstrandum

I don't accept the denigration you wrap up in your virtue signaling. Because I don't believe the virtue signaling is genuine. It's just a way to try to get in digs at what you perceive as the other tribe. Everything I said in the post you think supports your bigotry, is factual.

 

[Phys251]

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Yes.

The Gun Cult care more about their religious totems than children. If anything, they celebrate those slaughtered as martyrs to their idol. The gun.

I don't accept the denigration you wrap up in your virtue signaling. Because I don't believe the virtue signaling is genuine. It's just a way to try to get in digs at what you perceive as the other tribe. Everything I said in the post you think supports your bigotry, is factual.

 

[Gozaburo]

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"But kids are dying!" is such a lame false dichotomy.

Maybe the most ironic part of the gun debate is that liberals believe that the average citizen (who takes the necessary legal precautions) should have their rights to own modest modern weaponry limited, but that same citizen can vote for wars where we hurl missiles at peasants in mud huts, arm the local police with military grade equipment, and vote for other policy with far more violent consequences.

How does it follow that a citizenry is competent enough to participate in the democracy of the world's most powerful empire, but it is not competent enough to own a rifle? Lobbying against this is not only offensive to the American foundational mythos, but it also demonstrates that so much of liberal progressivism is devoid of rational consistency and instead relies on increasingly absurd false dichotomies in pursuit of a catatonic, will-less citizenry that forfeits freedoms for creature comforts.

 

[tshade]

"But kids are dying!" is such a lame false dichotomy.

Maybe the most ironic part of the gun debate is that liberals believe that the average citizen (who takes the necessary legal precautions) should have their rights to own modest modern weaponry limited, but that same citizen can vote for wars where we hurl missiles at peasants in mud huts, arm the local police with military grade equipment, and vote for other policy with far more violent consequences.

well, kids ARE dying. How many until we regulate a tad more, or......?
Many laws are "inconvenient", but laws are created to protect the whole of society from the few wackos. Modest regulations of our rights are common and needed.

How does it follow that a citizenry is competent enough to participate in the democracy of the world's most powerful empire, but it is not competent enough to own a rifle?

Apples/oranges

There is no competency test for voting, thank goodness.......but there are limits to voting..........

Lobbying against this is not only offensive to the American foundational mythos, but it also demonstrates that so much of liberal progressivism is devoid of rational consistency and instead relies on increasingly absurd false dichotomies in pursuit of a catatonic, will-less citizenry that forfeits freedoms for creature comforts.

POT, KETTLE BLACK if you voted trump (devoid of rationale, absurd, etc)..........imo

Some inconvenience occurs with all laws, for the general welfare of society

 

[Gozaburo]

well, kids ARE dying. How many until we regulate a tad more, or......?
Many laws are "inconvenient", but laws are created to protect the whole of society from the few wackos. Modest regulations of our rights are common and needed.

Guns are already modestly regulated.

Apples/oranges

There is no competency test for voting, thank goodness.......but there are limits to voting..........

How is it apples and oranges when voting would literally be required to legislate gun reform? Lmao

POT, KETTLE BLACK if you voted trump (devoid of rationale, absurd, etc)..........imo

Some inconvenience occurs with all laws, for the general welfare of society

Obtaining a firearm does have a bureaucratic process of varying degrees in every state. You're not lobbying for inconvenience. Even if you were, arguing for more inconvenience as a form of political reform is laughably stupid.

 

[Grand Mal]

Children have been killed since time immemorial. Everyone managed to bear it.

Overwrought emotionalism is no way to run anything but a huge bar tab.

And it, the gun culture, teaches kids lessons they couldn't learn elsewhere. A girl in the Uvalde school, for example, took blood off her fallen classmate and smeared herself with it to fool the shooter. You can't learn skills like that anywhere else.

 

[Lursa]

And it, the gun culture, teaches kids lessons they couldn't learn elsewhere. A girl in the Uvalde school, for example, took blood off her fallen classmate and smeared herself with it to fool the shooter. You can't learn skills like that anywhere else.

A 2nd grader (7 yr old) called 911 to alert them to the recent Wisconsin shooter .

The reality is, no matter how rare school shootings are, kids must be taught, just like with fire drills and stranger danger, to face another threat and learn some way to react to it...emotionally and defensively.

 

[EdwinWillers]

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Pithy gun humor. Nice. /s

 

[RF667799]

A 2nd grader (7 yr old) called 911 to alert them to the recent Wisconsin shooter .

The sheriff corrected that earlier statement. It was a second grade teacher.

The reality is, no matter how rare school shootings are, kids must be taught, just like with fire drills and stranger danger, to face another threat and learn some way to react to it...emotionally and defensively.

 

[RF667799]

And it, the gun culture, teaches kids lessons they couldn't learn elsewhere. A girl in the Uvalde school, for example, took blood off her fallen classmate and smeared herself with it to fool the shooter. You can't learn skills like that anywhere else.

You've got guns. You've been more involved with guns in the past. Right?

You're a member in good standing in the gun culture you're casting shade on.

 

[Lursa]

The sheriff corrected that earlier statement. It was a second grade teacher.

Oh, thanks

 

[RF667799]

Oh, thanks

Good example of how quick and far things like that spread. No matter where they originate.

The student caller version was repeated so much and made its way into so many memes, we'll probably still be seeing it for weeks, if not longer.

 

[Jason Warfield]

Children have been killed since time immemorial. Everyone managed to bear it.

Overwrought emotionalism is no way to run anything but a huge bar tab.

Easy to say when you don't have kids, or if you do, it doesn't happen to your kid.

Next time a kid gets shot and killed in school, I challenge you to go up to the parents and state that position of yours to them.

 

[RF667799]

Easy to say when you don't have kids, or if you do, it doesn't happen to your kid.

Next time a kid gets shot and killed in school, I challenge you to go up to the parents and state that position of yours to them.

I bet you think it would upset them in a time of great vulnerability.

Which makes one wonder why you would encourage someone to do such a thing.

Do you think you're demonstrating empathy by encouraging people to inflict emotional stress on bereaved parents?

 

[spud_meister]

Children have been killed since time immemorial. Everyone managed to bear it.

Children have also been molested since time immemorial. You as blasé about that?

 

[RF667799]

Children have also been molested since time immemorial. You as blasé about that?

Violent people of all stripes should be removed from society, but I don't see my attitude as blase. Realistic, more like. If you think running around in head on fire ass catching mode is helpful though, feel free. Likewise, if you feel that informing everyone available how deeply and genuinely you care is helpful, do that too.

 

[Peter]

I'm glad I live in a country without guns.

 

[RF667799]

I'm glad I live in a country without guns.

But you don't.

 

[Peter]

But you don't.

Almost nobody here owns a gun and handguns are completely banned.

 

[RF667799]

Almost nobody here owns a gun and handguns are completely banned.

So you don't live in a country without guns.

The Swiss live in a country with far more guns than yours, but your murder rate is twice as high.

Maybe they are happy to live in a country that is safer, with far more guns.