Why Switzerland Has The Lowest Crime Rate In The World

[Arcana XV]

Beyond the low unemployment, you folks have a much more egalitarian economic structure than we do. We have a similar pie, but the way we slice it up is diferent than Switzerland, with higher levels of extreme wealth here, but also higher levels of poverty and folks in the lower middle class. You have higher levels of what we would call middle and upper middle class, so you have more economic homogeneity throughout.


WE used to perceive ourself to be a middle class country, and had achieved such, but Reagan's economic schemes put an end to that.

We also have much stricter labor laws. You can't just pay someone peanuts over here.

 

[Ethereal]

* Switzerland has been historically neutral in military conflicts...

Yea, aiding and abetting the Nazis by storing the gold teeth of dead Jews in their vaults is totally "neutral"...

 

[liblady]

switzerland is also homogeneous......

 

[Djoop]

switzerland is also homogeneous......

I doubt that...


Arcana?

 

[Goshin]

I doubt that...


Arcana?

Aside from the immigant underclass, from my studies it would appear that Switzerland is indeed pretty homogenous culturally, despite the three linguistic groups.

As I said, caveat, I've never been there... but I was very intrested in the place at one time and studied it carefully. To be frank I was thinking of emigrating there until I found out it was nearly impossible to get naturalized.

 

[Arcana XV]

I doubt that...


Arcana?

I'm not sure what she means by homogeneous. I actually can't think of a less homogeneous country in Europe than Switzerland. Maybe Belgium...

As I said we do have a very high percentage of foreign residents. In some places, like in Geneva, it's as high as 40%. In the small town I live in near Geneva we have residents from over 80 different countries. Culturally the French and Italian speakers are very different from the majority German speakers and sometimes the clash of cultures is quite striking. It's most noticeable during federal votes or referendums. The French and Italian speakers tend to have more socialist leanings and are also pro joining the EU, whereas the German speakers have a rather strong libertarian streak and do not ever want to be part of the EU.

Our values are pretty much the same all over the country, though. This is a Christian country, with mostly judeo-christian traditions.

And, Goshin, it's not impossible the get naturalized. It's just a very long and very expensive process depending on your country of origin and the canton you start the process in. As an American citizen you'd probably get it in a less than 10 years and about 10'000 dollars here in Geneva.

 

[Toothpicvic]

They have a very good point here.

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Indeed. Gun control laws (at least like the ones being pushed for here) do more harm than good, and they're more of a "gun phobia" than anything based on common sense. In England where gun laws are even stricter than in the US, all that resulted is an increase in knife homicides.

As for a year of basic training after HS, I don't see how that could be bad for use either (however if we were required to be on active duty, I would not approve of that).

 

[Skateguy]

An armed society, is a polite society---nobody wants to get shot.

 

[Manc Skipper]

A group of humans who fear their neighbours to the point of arming against them is not a society at all.

 

[MyOwnDrum]

A group of humans who fear their neighbours to the point of arming against them is not a society at all.

That has got to be one of the most naive statements I've read in a long, long time. :doh

 

[Ethereal]

A group of humans who fear their neighbours to the point of arming against them is not a society at all.

Who said anything about neighbors? I'm worried about strangers...

 

[Dutch]

An armed society, is a polite society---nobody wants to get shot.

I highly recomend you don't mix your guns and pot there buddy. Nobody likes to get shot by a doper either, even by accident. :doh

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

A group of humans who fear their neighbours to the point of arming against them is not a society at all.

Then I guess there's never been a society at all for, oh, 99.99% of human history. :lol:

 

[Dutch]

I grew up in a family that prized hunting. My father hunted for food during the great depression. I grew up hearing stories about ancestors and hunting. I've eaten just about everything that walks, crawls, or flies here in the ozark mountains. Some of my best memories are hunting with my father and brother. I now hunt alone now since losing them many years ago.

I also have a concealed handgun permit, and I do, at times, carry. I feel comfortable with firearms. I shoot regularly for fun and relaxation. I reload so I don't have to rely on others for ammunition supplies. In short I'm a gun guy.

However, as far as I'm concerned if switzerland has the lowest rate in the world it's far more likely it's a result of a stable, mono-culture that puts a premium on lawful activities as opposed to crime.

What a lot of people here and elsewhere don't seem to understand is some segments of american society condone and encourage illegal activities. Call it a criminal sub-culture if you will. This sub-culture has it's own customs and social mores. It has little to do with need and a lot to do with drugs, ignorance, and an aversion to hard work. It's also learned behavior as it's generational.

I'm a strong believer in the 2nd amendment. I'd feel that way even if I didn't own a firearm. I believe it's a matter of who should make the decison to own firearms, myself or a local bureaucrat. I'll come down on the side of the individual citizen anyday. But let's not kid ourselves, guns are just tools. If we had to we could all live without them.

 

[Dittohead not!]

I grew up in a family that prized hunting. My father hunted for food during the great depression. I grew up hearing stories about ancestors and hunting. I've eaten just about everything that walks, crawls, or flies here in the ozark mountains. Some of my best memories are hunting with my father and brother. I now hunt alone now since losing them many years ago.

I also have a concealed handgun permit, and I do, at times, carry. I feel comfortable with firearms. I shoot regularly for fun and relaxation. I reload so I don't have to rely on others for ammunition supplies. In short I'm a gun guy.

However, as far as I'm concerned if switzerland has the lowest rate in the world it's far more likely it's a result of a stable, mono-culture that puts a premium on lawful activities as opposed to crime.

What a lot of people here and elsewhere don't seem to understand is some segments of american society condone and encourage illegal activities. Call it a criminal sub-culture if you will. This sub-culture has it's own customs and social mores. It has little to do with need and a lot to do with drugs, ignorance, and an aversion to hard work. It's also learned behavior as it's generational.

I'm a strong believer in the 2nd amendment. I'd feel that way even if I didn't own a firearm. I believe it's a matter of who should make the decison to own firearms, myself or a local bureaucrat. I'll come down on the side of the individual citizen anyday. But let's not kid ourselves, guns are just tools. If we had to we could all live without them.

I quite often disagree with Dutch's posts, but the above is absolutely 100% dead on. We have far too many people for whom violence, drugs, and lawlessness is a way of life.