Harry Guerrilla
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Why shouldn't Crackers be asked to act blacker?
You can leave the 19th century at any time.
You're referencing an outdated issue that, for better or for worse, no longer exists.
If this kind of rhetoric is what we would get back from them then no, they can keep it.
But just to play advocate here, what exactly is fully owed to them and why in your opinion? Please try to use complete sentences and something other than colorful explicatives to make the point.
Why shouldn't Crackers be asked to act blacker?
Anyone with enough wealth can buy into it just as the current execs have.That is total crap! Look at the Fortune 500. Who owns what and who controls what?
Also why do you think females still make less than males when doing the same exact job?
The Good Ole' Boys Club it still alive and kicking
Please try to refrain from attacking me and playing Grammar Police:roll:
How about land, money and free education for children to start with? Why? That is what they were promised and what they deserve. You think they are owed nothing for being treated worse than animals?
I would rather my tax dollars to go towards something like that rather than Pork! :roll:
Answer, and give rationale.
So let me get this straight.
Because I was born in this country I owe my money, to a racial group that I had nothing to do with (hardship-wise)?
You are telling me that when my children grow up, they will owe money, owe land, and be refused the same educational benefits as another race, because they are white?
I say HELL NO.
Things like the United Negro College Fund piss me off enough. People talk about racism and then form groups like this? If I were to start a United Blanco College Fund... I would be demonized for sure.
Anyone with enough wealth can buy into it just as the current execs have.
And to address your post below... Here are a few female Fortune 500 execs.
Claire Babrowski RadioShack
Brenda C. Barnes Sara Lee
Dorrit J. Bern Charming Shoppes
Mary E. Burton Zale
Patricia Gallup PC Connection
Susan M. Ivey Reynolds American
Andrea Jung Avon Products
Kay Krill AnnTaylor Stores
Linda A. Lang Jack in the Box
Kathleen A. Ligocki Tower Automotive
Anne Mulcahy Xerox
Janet L. Robinson New York Times
Paula G. Rosput Reynolds Safeco
Patricia F. Russo Lucent Technologies
Mary F. Sammons Rite Aid
Marion O. Sandler Golden West Financial
Stephanie A. Streeter Banta
Margaret C. Whitman eBay
Mary Agnes Wilderotter Citizens Communications
Taken from 2006.
There are also what... 5 Black F500 CEOs? 13 or 14 others by people of non-white decent?
Basically what it boils down to, is money. Find a way to get it, and you win!
Couple reasons could be cited. One of the major reasons is they have to make up for the lost time that females tend to bring to the job.
Women 'take 46 per cent more sick days than men' | Mail Online
Women Take Almost 50 Percent More Short-term Sick Leave Than Men
That's not counting pregnancy and maternity leave. In which during the pregnancy part women are more likely to be doing less of their job duties, have ill tempers regarding any "possible" hostility, and often require other special accomodations.
Just to be clear though, do you think you could find a job with the same exact duties in which a female makes less than a man per hour? Because from what I understand it's that females often make less per year than men in the same or different jobs... and that boils down to the days taken off work (see above) and overtime taken.
In this country, anyone can be anything as long as they are able to work themselves to death to get there.
Of course it helps if you've got the means to afford the education that you want first... but if not, you can still get there on your own.
Sadly in this country you cannot be anything you want because that is a big myth. Should you tell your children they can be anything the wish with hard work and a good education? Of course but the real fact is this: sometimes luck has a hell of a lot to do with where you get to in life. Racism, sexism and elitism still plays a huge part in who gets to to the top of the ladder and who does not
The fact is that people are still passed over for jobs based on gender, race and even social class. Sad but this will not change as long as the Good Ole' Boy Network you seem to support is in tact. I have hope that with Obama being elected that it will slowly tear away with the racism, sexism and cronyism that still runs amok in our country.
How about land, money and free education for children to start with? Why? That is what they were promised and what they deserve. You think they are owed nothing for being treated worse than animals?
I would rather my tax dollars to go towards something like that rather than Pork! :roll:
The fact is that people are still passed over for jobs based on gender, race and even social class. Sad but this will not change as long as the Good Ole' Boy Network you seem to support is in tact. I have hope that with Obama being elected that it will slowly tear away with the racism, sexism and cronyism that still runs amok in our country.
How does one "act" black?
Sadly in this country you cannot be anything you want because that is a big myth. Should you tell your children they can be anything the wish with hard work and a good education? Of course but the real fact is this: sometimes luck has a hell of a lot to do with where you get to in life. Racism, sexism and elitism still plays a huge part in who gets to to the top of the ladder and who does not
The fact is that people are still passed over for jobs based on gender, race and even social class. Sad but this will not change as long as the Good Ole' Boy Network you seem to support is in tact. I have hope that with Obama being elected that it will slowly tear away with the racism, sexism and cronyism that still runs amok in our country.
Of course you had something to do with it! Maybe not directly but indirectly by birth
I do not think your children should own money if they/gov. would just do the right thing and pay now. Then we will not have to put that on our kids and grandkids, etc.
I would much rather my tax dollars go towards helping the people that were done wrong in this country over people in other countries that we just blindly keep feeding and giving help only to have to keep repeating this over and over. What we need to do is teach all these poor places how to live off the land they have and to be self sufficient but that is a whole other thread.
The United Negro College Fund was set up during a time when it was much needed and is still needed. Not sure what your problem is with it? Go out and start whatever org. ya wish! Nobody-esp. the black folks-is holding ya down:roll:
Sadly in this country you cannot be anything you want because that is a big myth. Should you tell your children they can be anything the wish with hard work and a good education? Of course but the real fact is this: sometimes luck has a hell of a lot to do with where you get to in life. Racism, sexism and elitism still plays a huge part in who gets to to the top of the ladder and who does not
The fact is that people are still passed over for jobs based on gender, race and even social class. Sad but this will not change as long as the Good Ole' Boy Network you seem to support is in tact. I have hope that with Obama being elected that it will slowly tear away with the racism, sexism and cronyism that still runs amok in our country.
Your poll question and answers don't fit.
So go for option #3. :shrug:
I don't throw my vote away by voting for Third Options.
In that case, "no" is probably the safest bet.
A "why" question really can't be answered with a no.
Sure it can. Try it sometime, it's fun.
"Why shouldn't black be asked to give back?"
"No."
"wtf?"
Except for cronyism, how can you say that promotion is largely based on the "Good Ole Boy Network"?
To get ahead in this world you have to stop being a victim of everything and work your ass off otherwise your kidding yourself if you think someone is just going to hand you a job or a promotion.
The "Glass Ceiling" was broken a long time ago, its time to move on from being a victim.
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