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Why should Congress pass any budget…

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Or CR, when the SCOTUS just ruled that the President can ignore Congress’s spending and use the money however he wants?


There’s zero point in passing a budget when the President can arbitrarily decide he isn’t going to spend the money as Congress has allocated it. Trump’s pet SCOTUS has taken another step towards making Trump into a king.
An excellent point.
 
Flip, Flop. Quick to blame republicans. Six years ago AOC had a very different view of government shutdown than she does today. Seems whichever way benefits her and her democrat party is where she settles in, American people be damned.
 
Flip, Flop. Quick to blame republicans. Six years ago AOC had a very different view of government shutdown than she does today. Seems whichever way benefits her and her democrat party is where she settles in, American people be damned.


What does this have to do with the OP? Why are you trying to derail the thread with nonsense?
 
Flip, Flop. Quick to blame republicans. Six years ago AOC had a very different view of government shutdown than she does today. Seems whichever way benefits her and her democrat party is where she settles in, American people be damned.



So what? 😆

Six years ago Vance thought Donald was America's Hitler, people change their minds on apparently VERY big things.

And?
 
Or CR, when the SCOTUS just ruled that the President can ignore Congress’s spending and use the money however he wants?


There’s zero point in passing a budget when the President can arbitrarily decide he isn’t going to spend the money as Congress has allocated it. Trump’s pet SCOTUS has taken another step towards making Trump into a king.
Fair point.
But congress is compliant with that it seems.
Congress doesn't really have a backbone.
 
Fair point.
But congress is compliant with that it seems.
Congress doesn't really have a backbone.

How is congress compliant about something that just got ruled on less than a week ago?
 
What does this have to do with the OP? Why are you trying to derail the thread with nonsense?
LOL. This is her history on passing the budget, which is directly related to the OP. As usual the left wants to dodge any relevant facts that don't align with their current bullshit. History shows us where you are coming from and that's lie, lie, lie again.
 
LOL. This is her history on passing the budget, which is directly related to the OP. As usual the left wants to dodge any relevant facts that don't align with their current bullshit. History shows us where you are coming from and that's lie, lie, lie again.

The OP has nothing to do with government shutdowns. Stop trolling and derailing.

Address the actual topic; SCOTUS stripping the power of the purse from Congress and giving it to the President.
 
Fair point.
But congress is compliant with that it seems.
Congress doesn't really have a backbone.
The President can't do what you claim. He can put a hold on it while appealing to Congress to act. It's a 45 day process. The courts either rule that he can or cannot do certain things. In this case it's been a legal process. As usual some are not in possession to the facts, or at least don't want to discuss all the facts when they don't fall into their favor.
Under the 1974 Impoundment Control Act, a president cannot unilaterally refuse to spend funds that Congress has previously approved. The president can, however, propose a temporary delay or permanent cancellation of spending, which Congress must then approve.
Temporary deferral
The president can temporarily delay the spending of funds by sending a special message to Congress that outlines the reason for the deferral.
  • Allowed reasons: A deferral is only permitted for certain reasons, such as for contingencies, to achieve greater efficiency, or when explicitly provided for by law.
  • Congressional check: Congress can pass a resolution to overturn the president's deferral at any time.
  • Time limit: A deferral cannot last beyond the end of the fiscal year in which it was proposed.
Permanent rescission
To permanently cancel congressionally approved funds, the president must propose a rescission to Congress.
  • Proposal period: Once the president sends a special message to Congress, they can temporarily withhold the funds for up to 45 days while Congress considers the request.
  • Congressional approval: For the rescission to become permanent, both the House and the Senate must pass a rescission bill to approve the cancellation. If they do not, the president must release the funds.
Recent challenges to the law
In recent years, the Impoundment Control Act has faced challenges, and its constraints have been disputed.
  • Trump administration: During his term, President Trump asserted the authority to withhold funds without explicit congressional approval, which was criticized as an unconstitutional expansion of presidential power.
  • Ongoing legal challenges: Some of these actions, particularly regarding foreign aid funds, have resulted in litigation. While lower courts have generally sided against unilateral impoundment, the legality of the matter could eventually be decided by the Supreme Court.
  • Government Accountability Office (GAO) role: The nonpartisan GAO, which oversees compliance with the act, can investigate unauthorized impoundments and sue the executive branch to release improperly withheld funds.
 
The President can't do what you claim. He can put a hold on it while appealing to Congress to act. It's a 45 day process. The courts either rule that he can or cannot do certain things. In this case it's been a legal process. As usual some are not in possession to the facts, or at least don't want to discuss all the facts when they don't fall into their favor.
Under the 1974 Impoundment Control Act, a president cannot unilaterally refuse to spend funds that Congress has previously approved. The president can, however, propose a temporary delay or permanent cancellation of spending, which Congress must then approve.
Temporary deferral
The president can temporarily delay the spending of funds by sending a special message to Congress that outlines the reason for the deferral.
  • Allowed reasons: A deferral is only permitted for certain reasons, such as for contingencies, to achieve greater efficiency, or when explicitly provided for by law.
  • Congressional check: Congress can pass a resolution to overturn the president's deferral at any time.
  • Time limit: A deferral cannot last beyond the end of the fiscal year in which it was proposed.
Permanent rescission
To permanently cancel congressionally approved funds, the president must propose a rescission to Congress.
  • Proposal period: Once the president sends a special message to Congress, they can temporarily withhold the funds for up to 45 days while Congress considers the request.
  • Congressional approval: For the rescission to become permanent, both the House and the Senate must pass a rescission bill to approve the cancellation. If they do not, the president must release the funds.
Recent challenges to the law
In recent years, the Impoundment Control Act has faced challenges, and its constraints have been disputed.
  • Trump administration: During his term, President Trump asserted the authority to withhold funds without explicit congressional approval, which was criticized as an unconstitutional expansion of presidential power.
  • Ongoing legal challenges: Some of these actions, particularly regarding foreign aid funds, have resulted in litigation. While lower courts have generally sided against unilateral impoundment, the legality of the matter could eventually be decided by the Supreme Court.
  • Government Accountability Office (GAO) role: The nonpartisan GAO, which oversees compliance with the act, can investigate unauthorized impoundments and sue the executive branch to release improperly withheld funds.

Congress has not approved of any of Trump’s cancellation of foreign aid spending and it’s been more than 45 days.
 
What does this have to do with the OP? Why are you trying to derail the thread with nonsense?
We have in our midst a specialist in whataboutisms. We all have our schticks, mine is being a snowflake, his is resorting to whataboutism.
 
LOL. This is her history on passing the budget, which is directly related to the OP. As usual the left wants to dodge any relevant facts that don't align with their current bullshit. History shows us where you are coming from and that's lie, lie, lie again.

The op is about a Supreme Court decision. It has nothing to do with a government shutdown except...

How can anyone trust that the president will use Congressional appropriations?
 
Flip, Flop. Quick to blame republicans. Six years ago AOC had a very different view of government shutdown than she does today. Seems whichever way benefits her and her democrat party is where she settles in, American people be damned.

Memory issues?
Why did they shut it that time?

And what is the issue this time?

Now defend the R Party if you can.
 
Congress has not approved of any of Trump’s cancellation of foreign aid spending and it’s been more than 45 days.
And you asked me how congress is not compliant in limiting presidents power.
They do nothing to slow or stop him.
 
The President can't do what you claim. He can put a hold on it while appealing to Congress to act. It's a 45 day process. The courts either rule that he can or cannot do certain things. In this case it's been a legal process. As usual some are not in possession to the facts, or at least don't want to discuss all the facts when they don't fall into their favor.
Under the 1974 Impoundment Control Act, a president cannot unilaterally refuse to spend funds that Congress has previously approved. The president can, however, propose a temporary delay or permanent cancellation of spending, which Congress must then approve.
Temporary deferral
The president can temporarily delay the spending of funds by sending a special message to Congress that outlines the reason for the deferral.
  • Allowed reasons: A deferral is only permitted for certain reasons, such as for contingencies, to achieve greater efficiency, or when explicitly provided for by law.
  • Congressional check: Congress can pass a resolution to overturn the president's deferral at any time.
  • Time limit: A deferral cannot last beyond the end of the fiscal year in which it was proposed.
Permanent rescission
To permanently cancel congressionally approved funds, the president must propose a rescission to Congress.
  • Proposal period: Once the president sends a special message to Congress, they can temporarily withhold the funds for up to 45 days while Congress considers the request.
  • Congressional approval: For the rescission to become permanent, both the House and the Senate must pass a rescission bill to approve the cancellation. If they do not, the president must release the funds.
Recent challenges to the law
In recent years, the Impoundment Control Act has faced challenges, and its constraints have been disputed.
  • Trump administration: During his term, President Trump asserted the authority to withhold funds without explicit congressional approval, which was criticized as an unconstitutional expansion of presidential power.
  • Ongoing legal challenges: Some of these actions, particularly regarding foreign aid funds, have resulted in litigation. While lower courts have generally sided against unilateral impoundment, the legality of the matter could eventually be decided by the Supreme Court.
  • Government Accountability Office (GAO) role: The nonpartisan GAO, which oversees compliance with the act, can investigate unauthorized impoundments and sue the executive branch to release improperly withheld funds.
And if congress doesn't act at all?
OR until the next election cycle is over?

And hasn't courts ruled he can withhold funds for certain functions?
Who or what is it that actually signs the checks, so to speak
 
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Flip, Flop. Quick to blame republicans. Six years ago AOC had a very different view of government shutdown than she does today. Seems whichever way benefits her and her democrat party is where she settles in, American people be damned.

What are you talking about? The GOP has Congress. They're the ones failing to pass a budget.
 
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